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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:40 AM
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Nice c-span caller suggests land mines to keep out those awful Mexicans
Yeah, this nice lady just called in to suggest that we place land mines all along the Mexican border and set up a DMZ, (demilitarized zone?).

What a nice fucking lady.

The desperate people who come to America for a better life are not to blame for our shitty economy or rising unemployment, they are HUMAN BEINGS, trying to feed their children.

Some fucking people, I swear.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:41 AM
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1. Sounds like something Wile E. Coyote would try
:shrug:
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:44 AM
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4. ya it does
maybe a little acme exploding bird seed?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:57 AM
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11. his plan would involve an Uncle Sam costume, a giant catapult
and a LOT of car-sized boulders hanging by a simple string...
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:43 AM
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2. maybe those wanting to come here should try the legal way
I'm sure that you wouldn't want people breaking into your home because they are looking for a better life


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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:48 AM
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7. Try the legal way?
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 08:51 AM by wtmusic
Maybe you don't know how hard the "legal way" is? And maybe you don't know how many immigrants come up here and work their asses off, contributing to their communities, compared to how many are breaking into homes?

Just a guess.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:34 AM
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22. how many?
:shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:50 AM
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:47 AM
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19. Maybe we should make the legal way easier.
I suppose it matters whether you look at immigration as akin to "breaking and entering" or to "looking for a better life" which has motivated people to move here for centuries.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:36 AM
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23. you're right
we should make it easier for people to become citizens

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:43 AM
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3. She's probably a fan of Ma Barkers' a.k.a. Barbara Bush, Sr.
... and it has worked out very well for her, aye? :crazy:

We should be thankful that she troubled her "beautiful mind" to problem solve for us little people.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:46 AM
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5. it's the christian way. and no, i am not bashing Christians.
i purposely use the small c, because these are people who claim to be christian and have christan values, when they are not and do not.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:48 AM
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6. Some people are sociopaths.
I suggest this woman be locked in a room and shown a 24 hour long film of photographs and sounds filled with the results of landmines on the human body.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:49 AM
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8. I've been on the Nogales crossing and seen refugees SQUEEZING through the iron
revolving gates that are supposedly spaced so that it could not be done.

An adult male--and (thank God) he made it. It was horrifying, though. I'd like this fine example of American womanhood to witness what I did and NOT be changed forever. As an Arizonan, I've grown up with Mexican economic refugees living literally next door to me and making me tamales for Christmas. They are just human beings trying to survive--just like me.

Land mines, lady? If they bother you that much, why not just plant one in front of your own front door and let the rest of us be. :mad:

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:52 AM
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10. 'Cause maybe she'd forget, and step on it.
Oops.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:58 AM
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12. Mexicans are an integral part of the California and Southwest economy
You want to protect American jobs? Kill that goddamn H1B visa program.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:06 AM
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13. How will Republicans get people to work at American-based factories?
Geez ... that's no way to treat your employees ... ReRushlican businesses count on illegal immigrants doing the jobs of real citizens TO KEEP COSTS DOWN ...
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tinkerbell41 Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:26 AM
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16. Exactly!!
Let's set up the landmines at the offices of those who employed them, those who chose to devalue Labor. 50 dollars an hour to pick lettuce??? That's more than I make now as a Commercial Electrician same conditions, HOT, DIRTY, Treated like an animal,cant use public restrooms,or cafeteria. I'll pick lettuce. No Problem!!
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:20 AM
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14. Another caller suggested that a couple of years ago.
Brian Lamb was taken aback: "Land mines??? People, women and children would surely be killed."

Caller: "It would only take one time."

Nice?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:25 AM
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15. There are people in this country who literally are infuriated by the sight
of Latinos. This one lady called into WJ today angry because she "saw illegals working on the road".

She doesn't want to see Latinos and she especially doesn't want to see them working on the roads.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:32 AM
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18. It was nice of them to wear those handy lime green shirts that clearly identified those Latinos
as "illegals." Here in AZ, it's so hard to tell sometimes (do I really need this?). :sarcasm:

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:29 AM
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17. Yeah, nice lady indeed. Why not just shock and awe the entire country
Let's demand a regime change and claim Mexico has WMDs and that they're all terrorists and just bomb the crap out of them. Let's start with Mexico City

:sarcasm:
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:02 AM
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20. Perhaps you haven't noticed
Right now there are plenty of American citizens struggling to find employment, struggling to have a roof over their head, struggling to put food on the table, struggling to clothe themselves, struggling to survive. They too are desperate. And their interests are often in conflict with those of illegal immigrants.

Save the crap about illegal immigrants doing work that Americans are unwilling to do. That line of BS is an insult to many hardworking Americans who do some very nasty, dirty, dangerous jobs. I know some of them - and have far more respect for them than many of their fellow citizens. I grew up on a working farm/ranch and continue to know lots of Americans who work in agriculture. Many of them work 7 days a week dong jobs that have been featured on Mike Rowe's "Dirty Jobs" tv show.

I would suggest that some of those folks illegally crossing the southern border might do well to stay home and confront and work to resolve the issues in their homeland. Their governments will remain corrupt and their economy will remain in shambles until the citizens of their nation act to change those things.

You prefer to think those folks are coming here for a better life. In reality they are often coming here to earn money to send back to support family south of the border. Many do not intend to make our nation their home and they do not wish to stay here permanently. In essence they are plundering our nation and transferring our resources to their own nation - leaving fewer resources here to care and provide jobs and health care for our owns citizens.

Yeah, they are human beings - but that in and of itself does not give them a right to enter this country at will. There are legal avenues to immigrate.

Land mines along the border? No. Deportation? Most definitely. Accompanied by strong and consistently enforced penalties against anyone who employs an illegal worker or has a commercial contract (e.g., a landlord tenant or independent contractor relationship) with an illegal immigrant.

Just my opinion. You don't have to agree, of course.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:40 AM
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24. Mexican workers who come here because Clinton's NAFTA threw them off their farms
or because Bush manipulated their elections to keep his cronies in there screwing the people do not plunder this economy. They add to it. They are paying your social security right now. And you really should be worried because most of them are heading back the other way because there are no jobs here.

You know, as Americans, we have no leg to stand on and lecture anyone any where about corruption in government.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:12 AM
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26. I Know Americans who
have spent decades living and working in Mexico training and equipping the Mexican people to be independent and self-sufficient in their own homeland. Yet when my friends return to the states they routinely encounter Mexicans they trained in Mexico living and working here illegally. I've observed these encounters several times. Most of those illegals are embarrassed to be seen here by the people who trained them to work in their own country (a condition of their training). I quit supporting my friends efforts quite some time ago. Not because it is not well intentioned and needed but because the recipients of their time, efforts and resources are abusing and taking advantage of my friends efforts.

I also am personally acquainted with many of the small American farmers in a particular rural community who were thrown off their farms through eminent domain in order to build an airport that primarily serves vendors for a couple of Fortune 500 companies. For their part the airlines take advantage of that. An hour long non stop flight from that recently built airport to the nearest hub runs over $600. Drive an hour and a half to another airport and take a nonstop flight on the same carrier to the same hub - a flight of less than an hour and a half - and the ticket is about $75. Thanks to the US Supreme Court every property owner in the US is at risk of having their property seized through the power of eminent domain if someone proposes a use for the property which would generate tax revenues. You kid yourself if you think that Americans and American farmers are not also being removed - or face the very real possibility of removal - from their homes, businesses and farms.

You say illegal workers add to this economy because they pay social security taxes. Bullshit. That is a false argument. Those jobs will not go away if the illegal workers go away. Whoever holds those jobs will have social security taxes withheld. And if you think that illegal workers are doing jobs that Americans will not do then you are ignorant - and you are insulting some hardworking Americans who do some very nasty, dirty, dangerous jobs. Just because you are not willing to fill these jobs does not mean that other Americans are not.

Given our present economy and the many Americans who are unemployed, anyone who would hire or support the hiring of H1B workers or illegal workers betrays the needs and interests of unemployed citizens and residents. You're right there are no jobs here. But you seem to have no objection to an illegal worker holding a job that an unemployed American might otherwise hold. I applaud every one of those illegal workers heading back to wherever they came from.

There are legal ways to immigrate and work in the US. Those requirements are no more onerous or time consuming than the requirements placed on Americans who wish to immigrate elsewhere. Like it or not, most nations have measures in place to restrict immigration and the employment of foreign workers. They do it in order to protect their citizens from undesirable (e.g., criminal, violent, contagious) immigrants and to insure employment opportunities for their citizens. They also endeavor to restrict the possibility that their national resources might be pillaged and removed from the country.

Illegal workers needs to face swift and certain deportation. Those who employ them need to face stiff penalties that serve as a deterrent and those individuals involved in their hiring need to face criminal charges.
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:32 AM
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21. The down turn in American jobs has significantly reduced the ...
number of "desperate people who come to America for a better life" a'm okay with land mines.nd repleced them with gangstersa and drug runners.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 03:22 AM
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25. What happen? Someone set up us the bomb!
You have to laugh because this idea is too insane to take seriously.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:17 AM
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27. By and large, CPSAN callers are the most insane
of all people who bother to call into radio or tv shows.

At least from I can tell.

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