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Mon Mar-30-09 10:13 PM
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Who here is "livid with rage over the way management at a historically anti-union megacorp has... |
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been treated by the Democratic White House."
(As opposed to being livid over the *difference* between how the companies are being treated by the White House: auto makers strung along, while bankers get over 100 times as much money without so much as tiny objection.)
Show of hands, please!
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:16 PM
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1. Not I. I'm livid over the double standard |
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between main street and wall street.
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:16 PM
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It's nice that you assume we will instantly understand your reference, but an original post really needs a little more information. And lots more proper nouns.
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:19 PM
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:19 PM
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4. I would l ike an explanation as to why there has been such a vast difference in the |
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way manufacturing has been treated as opposed to financial "geniuses". Why hasn't anyone in the financial conglomerates been asked to resign???
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:22 PM
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6. Because bankers have more leverage than silly little blue collar workers. |
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We're only good right before election time, then we're filed away under "stupid" for four years.
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:31 PM
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7. Leverage = Campaign Contributions...? |
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:16 AM
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:19 AM
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:43 AM
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Bush Republican money was scary too, it goes without saying.
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Tue Mar-31-09 11:42 AM
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:38 PM
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28. Obama is serving his corporate masters. |
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Many of us posted months ago that the status quo has been bought & paid for and will be preserved by Obama & Congress because of campaign "contributions" aka bribery. :puke:
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:20 PM
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That post was so disingenuous. People are rightly pissed, but it's not because they feel sorry for Wagoner.
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Tue Mar-31-09 01:59 AM
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15. I would also like to know who here feels sorry for Wagoner? nt |
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:32 PM
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26. I don't feel sorry for the bastard, he walked away with 20 million, and that money could have |
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come from none other than the bailout funds (i.e. taxpayers). No my anger is for the Union busting coming down the pike.
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:04 AM
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8. I'm glad you asked. If there is evidence for that claim, I also missed it. |
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Edited on Tue Mar-31-09 12:11 AM by chill_wind
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:05 AM
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9. i cannot understand your post |
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:06 AM
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10. I'd like an explanation on why there's such a huge, glaring, massive difference in treatment |
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between Wall Street and Detroit.
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:22 AM
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13. I am and quite brutally honest |
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this is going to be the last straw in America's Empire
This is just whistling past the grave... and the Murican worker is at fault really :sarcasm: because the greedy bastards at wall street say the american worker is greedy and a slough (projection perhaps)
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Tue Mar-31-09 02:04 AM
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16. As a member of union family, I feel like the UAW is the first big domino. |
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And the longer the EFCA is delayed and the more anti-union rhetoric I hear, the more I am worried for America's middle class.
It's true GM had its problems and was not a corporate role model but few cry tears over the loss of the CEO.
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Tue Mar-31-09 04:27 AM
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hit big unions first then watch the rest fall - it was our unlamented PM's idea when he instituted special laws that only apply to construction workers in the revolting ABCC, something the LABOR party has kept.
It's time for union members to demand their "leaders" stop throwing good money after bad, the trail of Democratic betrayals of the labor movement is LONG. EFCA will go down in much the same way as various initiatives to redress the worst parts of Taft Hartley have over the years (including in time of D majorities)
Unions will NEVER be able to throw around the kind of money that the bosses do, concomitantly they'll NEVER out influence the parasite class.
Use the money for any one of a million more effective uses.
I forsee a few Australian unions disassociating from the ALP over the next few years and they haven't been anywhere NEAR as bad to labor as the Democrats have.
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Tue Mar-31-09 11:49 AM
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The greedy Wall St folks care less about this country than the average union worker. Everyone would like to do well, and have their kids do better than they do...but some of us actually bother to count the cost. Even at their worst, unions never did the damage to this country that Wall St and people like Madoff have done. The feudalistic lords of the manor - corporate bigwigs - do not want the serfs rising up and taking over the land...they cannot even demand fair wages. And while contracts that promise corporate toadies bonuses are unbreakable...contracts with labor unions appear to be renegotiable every day.
The only thing that matters is the corporate persona. That would be a great start...as Thom Hartmann has said...take away this "personhood" from corporations, and make the officers personally responsible. What a great improvement that would be.
Labor has NEVER done the harm to this country that big business has done.
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:34 PM
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Tue Mar-31-09 05:43 AM
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18. NPR was kind enough to run an ediorial piece from AN AEI "economist" |
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asserting that the unions have finally killed GM. During a fund raising drive, no less!
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Tue Mar-31-09 11:50 AM
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21. Too bad NPR h as gone the way of all flesh. That would be a good place for Obama to start cleaning |
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out some rotten leftovers.
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:22 PM
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23. because the unions designed and marketed such shitty cars? |
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:28 PM
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25. Dontcha know? The unions cooked up the idea of marketing Hummers |
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:17 PM
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22. Sure they fire Waggoner |
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who walks away with something like 20 million. The union workers get zip.
It looks like a show. Waggoner gets to retire with several million a year to live on. That makes it okay to screw the worker. Waggoner won't be losing his home (homes) and be too poor to send his kids to college. Thousands of workers will.
Show me how that is fair.
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:27 PM
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24. I'm so pissed I can't see straight, fucking double standard! n/t |
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