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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:51 AM
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There will be a concerted effort to blame Obama for auto industry failures.
In fact, it's already underway with lies about Obama not bailing out the auto industry, having double standards, and not caring about union jobs.

Nip this shit in the bud.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:53 AM
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1. umm, by his decisions he owns it, no matter how it turns out nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:55 AM
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4. Thanks for demonstrating.
:thumbsup:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:54 AM
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2. And it will likely start right here on DU
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:55 AM
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3. It's certainly going on now, right here.
There are no "good" options related to the auto industry. There are, rather, a host of bad ones. And when Obama picks the least-bad option, he will be blamed for the negative effects, with no thought given to the alternatives.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:03 AM
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7. That's it. I seem to recall him saying something like "the choices are all bad..." just after
he was inaugurated.
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tinkerbell41 Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:00 AM
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5. Loyal Union member
I don't know what to think. I have no idea what the best decision would be to fix the industry. I have racked my brain and I don't know. I do believe Management is to blame, poor decisions.
I am glad I am not in Obama's position, really he is screwed no matter what. I have rooted for him since he announced his decision to run and I still believe in him, I am really torn on this issue. But how do you fix 15 yrs of poor decisions? Really???

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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:02 AM
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6. ny times today talks about the unprecedented riskiness of O's move
there is no precedent in the US for a president essentially intervening in a private manufacturing corporation, taking over its operations essentially

the risks are enormous

especially since more union health and benefit concessions are tops on the agenda, and this will be
a horrible and terrible blow to the UAW

it was a mistake to oust Wagoner, also, he knows the industry inside and out and was making progress



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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:04 AM
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8. What a load of shit.
Wagoner lost GM billions.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:22 AM
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11. Wagoner lost ninety percent of GM's value. How on Earth is that "making progress?"
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:08 AM
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9. I'd be more than happy to do so if one could provide me with the
facts that support the idea that his administration is NOT operating under a double standard. What I've seen so far is WS continues their looting while being coddled by the WH. Millions paid out to the WS thieves in bonuses because gawd forbid their contracts be violated and yet union contracts are repeatedly broken. Concessions are expected and demanded, to come from where? Union contracts, that's where.

So far the financial team the President has put together looks like "the fox guarding the hen house".
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:27 AM
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13. How's that?
This is from yesterday.....

This is not a minute by minute tit for tat game here. This is serious business.

Obama met with Wagoner back on March 12th.
Obama met with Banking CEOs on March 27th.

Folks are being a bit juvenile and short sighted in their approach to this country's problems,
and I find that sad.

Wagoner's exit puts BofA CEO Lewis in hotseat

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Bank of America Corp Chief Executive Kenneth Lewis may be the next corporate boss to feel the heat after the administration forced General Motors Corp Chief Executive Rick Wagoner to resign in return for further government assistance.

The second-largest U.S. bank has received $45 billion from the government, making it one of the biggest recipients of government bailout money in the banking system.

Big shareholders have been calling for Lewis to step down since Bank of America announced in January it took a $20 billion government bailout to secure the acquisition of troubled Merrill Lynch & Co, which lost almost $16 billion in the last quarter of 2008.

The government may now add to the pressure from shareholders, analysts said. The sudden departure of Wagoner after nine years in the top job at GM signals the Obama administration is looking for management changes at bailed-out companies.

"His longevity in the job is probably very much in question," said Keith Wirtz, chief investment officer of Fifth Third Asset Management and a former CIO at a Bank of America subsidiary. Fifth Third holds shares in the bank.

more
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE52T6DP20090330?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=10112


and this from this morning....

Inside the Obama-Bank CEO Meeting
By Rob Blackwell
March 30, 2009

As bank chief executives left the White House Friday after a roughly 90-minute meeting with President Obama, they presented a united front to the media horde outside.

But inside the meeting, which was held in the state dining room, it was clear the CEOs took different approaches. The bluntest was from Ken Lewis, the chief executive of Bank of America Corp.

"Mr. President, I am not going to suck up to Larry and Tim like the rest of these guys," Lewis said, according to sources in the meeting. Lewis was referring to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, and Lawrence Summers, the head of the National Economic Council, who also attended.

Obama laughed along with the rest of the CEOs, before listening to Lewis get to his point: he wants to pay back Troubled Asset Relief Program funds.

And he was not the only one.

Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase & Co., arrived with check in hand to give to Geithner before the meeting started, according to the participant. Geithner took the check briefly to examine it before handing it back. (The check was fake).

Dimon tried again later during the meeting, telling the president he would like to give back his $25 billion in Tarp money.

The overall tone of the meeting was cordial, participants said, with no raised voices or significant tension. Obama's message was essentially one of mutual dependence: we need you, and you need us.

"My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks," Obama said.

Still, Lewis complained that all institutions were being tarred with the same brush, saying policymakers should better distinguish between commercial bankers and investment bankers.

But Obama had a rejoinder to that, saying the industry essentially brought that problem upon itself. He offered to call Sen. Byron Dorgan and ask him to re-establish the Glass-Steagall Act, which was repealed a decade ago. The law put barriers between commercial and investment banks.

http://www.bankinvestmentconsultant.com/news/-2661449-1.html

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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:07 PM
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14. how about NOT asking about Glass-Steagall, how about RESTORING the ACT. How
about not fretting over the bonus payouts, how about rescinding them. How about not cutting the Unions off at the knees....
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:07 PM
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17. Talk to your congress on such action.
This was still a Democracy operating under various branches of government last I checked.

Grow up.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:33 PM
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19. ..
smooth:sarcasm:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:09 AM
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10. There will be a concerted effort to blame Obama if it rains. n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:10 PM
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15. of course, Obama will be to blame
and of course the repigs have very short memories.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:23 AM
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12. LOL. How dare people blame the President for his actions! nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:05 PM
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16. I'm talking about people blaming Obama for things that aren't his actions.
Try to keep up here. It's not that complicated.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:31 PM
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18. They had major problems LONG before Obama was even in the Senate,
much less President.

But that does not absolve him of his actions now.
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FudaFuda Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:38 PM
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20. I agree. If you take the wheel, you're driving.
GM is a huge clusterf__k and it's been going in that direction for over 20 years. Obama didn't make that happen. But this administration has stepped in and, figuratively and literrally, taken hold of the reigns. Big gamble, and I think the effect on the unions, good or bad, will impact the next election more than GM's prospects as a corp. I certainly hope this works out well for Pres. Obama, but I have my doubts about the decision to get into the driver's seat.
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