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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 05:55 PM Original message |
Why does the Department of Education have a Faith-Based and Community Initiatives Center? |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama is a big believer in the bible and HIS religion so you should be too maybe nt |
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kaygore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. I am a big believer in mine too, but I also knoe the Constitution |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. why? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. What is with the pro-autocracy bullshit? He and you, should be bigger believers in the CONSTITUTION. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm gonna throw up. n/t |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. You just can't get away from this crap. |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. All of the federal agencies got one under Bush n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. So it began under Bush? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. And Obama proclaimed before the election that he would maintain and even GROW the faith-based office... |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. That doesn't make it good or constitutional or healthy or anything of the sort |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I am not FOR it. jsut explaining to the unknowing Duer that yes it started under BUSH, ad Obama cont |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. It started under Clinton n/t |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Wrong - Bush started it. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You can say whatever you want, doesn't change the facts: |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Thanks for the link and quotes. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. That's a charter school issue (also a fuck up) |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. No, it's not. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 05:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Fact is, Bush instituted the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives. 2001. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. That is one of the most powerful articles I have seen. Clinton, charter schools and faith-based.. |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Not AFAIK |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes Another Thing To Add To My List |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's only a two-minute prayer n/t |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Oh Well, Then It's O.K. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. I think you missed THAT sarcasm. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Heh heh |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. ...just sprinkle a bit of this incense to the emperor... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. K&R |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
16. Why? |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
17. that's a DAMNED good question. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. They are every where! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Stunning list! The one from the Dept of Labor upsets me. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. This cozy relationship between church and state is definitely troubling. |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Why is this stuff still going on under the new administratION? |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
27. K & R |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. You are right. It is not harmless. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
29. morning kick... nt |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
30. Because faith and community are evil things? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Sorry you completely missed the point. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. That's a logical fallacy and you know it, DQ. nt |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
34. K&R nt |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
36. This was my biggest concern about voting for Obama. He is too tied to the religious right. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Same here. I noticed it right away about him, and it made me uneasy. |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
37. I would rather have seen this faith-based stuff closed down. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Interesting post. |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. National Science Foundation grants became much harder |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
38. "Everyone has equal access to education...public education"? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. You are saying that has something to do with religion and faith-based? |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
41. thanks for posting this |
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radhika (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
42. Apropos the Hiring & Discrimination Part |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Just found this...there has been no clear statement. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
47. k i c k |
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tooeyeten (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
49. it's Florida? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
50. Votes trump separation of Church and state with politicians. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
53. Some Constitutional "scholar" Obama is. NOT! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
54. Too late to recommend this, but I'll give it a kick. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
55. Uh, yeah - since when was it legal to support religion with tax money? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
58. Churches want and need government acknowledgment . . . |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
59. Rich people benefit from a religiofied general public. They can |
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