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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:01 PM
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RAH, RAH USA . . . when are we invading Iran?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:02 PM
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1. According to some folks here, last year before the election
:)
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:02 PM
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2. This is related to pirates how exactly?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:02 PM
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3. Ah. A glutton for teh stupid, I see.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:04 PM
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7. This is the second reply of yours I've had to read.
But I wouldn't call it gluttony quite yet.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:07 PM
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14. Good to see at least that you've learned, and taken teh stupid out of GDP - congrats!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:11 PM
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18. Oh, there's plenty of stupid left there, even with your absence.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:11 PM
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19. :)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:03 PM
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4. maybe after we have them completely surrounded
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:04 PM
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11. LOL!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:09 PM
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15. and we'll do it live
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:03 PM
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5. Why are people so upset that other people are happy? n/t
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:04 PM
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9. Cause if the USA does something, it is always bad. Even with Obama at the helm
America Bad. Everyone else good. It was in the memo, did you not get it?? :rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:13 PM
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21. Did half of DU just come back from a sabbatical at freakerville?
Nobody is upset because other people are happy. What a weird claim.

It's just the same 10 posters feeling nauseous because the same other ten posters, who usually can't wait for the death row guy to fry in great detail, were salivating because some idiot petty thugs might get blown to bits on teevee. Celebrating that captain getting clear is one thing; anticipating carnage with glee is another. I guess not enjoying people getting killed makes me an America hater. Oh, well. :)

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:21 PM
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31. "Nobody is upset because other people are happy."
Edited on Sun Apr-12-09 08:22 PM by ProSense
Find the two posts in the forum with Rah Rah in the title. I truly sense that someone is upset by others expressing happiness.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:26 PM
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35. That's your projection. I'm right there with arcadian and others
who are always creeped out by this blood thirsty stuff. That doesn't mean I'm upset because other people are happy or, that I'm not happy myself because our hostage was freed.

The posts you refer to are after a number of insults have been exchanged, and have little to do with the original discussion. People love to pick sides and shine up their toughness. It makes them feel productive maybe. :)

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:29 PM
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38. No it isn't.
That doesn't mean I'm upset because other people are happy


My original comment wasn't directed to you, but it's clear there are people upset that others are happy.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:32 PM
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40. The accurate statement is, it's true that some people are upset
by a celebration of carnage where a celebration of life and freedom would seem appropriate.

That's not the same, is it?

There are always over the top posts to DU when some perceived bad guy is dismembered and or killed and usually by the same posters.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:42 PM
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45. I don't really care if people are happy or not.
Sure, I think it's OKay to be happy the guy was rescued, my comments were directed to the people who were calling for a carpet bombing of Mogadishu(my exaggeration) because of this "pirate" incident. Dare i ask for a little introspection when it comes to issues such as these. I don't even have a TV and I was inundated with stories about this, on the radio, on the web, etc.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:49 PM
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50. See that's the problem with
building entire threads to call out a handful of people.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:16 PM
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26. I've certainly noticed a vocal minority pushing that POV. It validates a bogus
RW talking point that has pissed me off for a long time. It is a minority view that RW'ers have smeared all of us with for decades.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:18 PM
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29. Actually, TSS is regurgitating a RW talking point that has nothing to do with
the discussion on DU today. There is no small vocal minority slamming Obama, the navy or the country for a successful rescue that I know of.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:24 PM
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33. Not slamming, but perception and labeling
I was glad the captain was freed, same as you and others. But the reaction to that reaction is what I find odd.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:28 PM
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37. It's inevitable that the distinction gets lost, like all distinctions on big boards.
Edited on Sun Apr-12-09 08:29 PM by EFerrari
Happy the guy is alive and free is one thing. Gloating over body parts, twisted. That's it! That's the whole anti-American deal!
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:46 PM
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47. Na man, you don't get off like that.
You damn well know that there were people on DU calling for lethal force in this days ago, even when there was talk of FBI hostage negotitions. Using bloodthirsty language. This place looked like fucking Free Republic with all the bloodlust and Rah rah bullshit and you fucking know it.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:07 PM
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53. Oh I do know that, but I am not sure where one sees that as so terrible
You have someone holding a freaking gun to someone else and you want the situation over with, and use of force in this case (and others) is warranted and can save lives. You wait, an innocent person dies.

You don't want people like that around, and so wishing our government would do what is needed is not, imho, equated with 'wishing' for the death of someone but wishing that someone, the person held hostage, comes out alive. And if that means shooting someone (who may well do the same thing again later) then I am all for it.

I am a very tolerant man, I don't care how you live your life, celebrate your values and religion, etc and so on. But when you put a gun up to someone and demand money or something else in return for not killing that person I am not going to lose sleep over you getting shot.

Being a liberal I am for peace, and choice, and against the death penalty. And in a hostage situation I am all for the people trying to save a life and not for the people threatening a life to make money.

I will put it like this - were it me I would shoot them and end the crisis as fast as possible - after giving them the choice to cease and desist. Folks cheered in the streets when hitler was dead and germany defeated - not because they were blood thirsty hate mongers, but because they wanted an end to all the damned violence and war.

We had a good ending for the victim here, and a bad one for the perps. They made the choice here, and they made the wrong one.

I don't think celebrating death is a wonderful thing, but I sure as hell understand it in cases like this. It is not all black and white - and you will see me often on threads where people grave dance when someone famous dies disagreeing with people over such dancing.

My morals and values may not be yours, so feel to disagree with me on them. And I will yours. I am glad though that we have the freedom to have such debates :)
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:27 PM
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36. I know the OP isn't actually pushing it but I've also seen posts by people who
don't want Obama's economic or foreign policies to work and even who do seem to always want to blame the US for everything. It is weird. Idiotic stereotypes frequently become stereotypes because of a few folks who actually fit it. It is a small minority but I've definitely seen it around here over the past couple of months. It annoys me. I'm sorry. I certainly don't think it fits for the huge majority of people. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:35 PM
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42. The pirate discussion here today didn't seem to me to be about Obama
or America although, it would surprise me not at all if posters who enjoy bashing him jump on board. :)
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:03 PM
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6. April 6, 2008. I have good sources. n/t
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:04 PM
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8. Not July 2006?
:D
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:13 PM
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22. You're right. We're doing it then as well. I hope we're successful. n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:04 PM
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10. I don't think Obama is going to invade Iran
Obama wants a peaceful resolution to the nuclear situation.

I don't know where you are getting your information from.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:05 PM
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13. Mostly from GD.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:10 PM
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17. You got your information from the General Discussion board?
Do you have a link to a post where Obama or anyone in his administration said we are going to invade Iran?

Is there even a poster in GD that said we should invade Iran?

Are you drunk?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:13 PM
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23. Somebody's drunk.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:10 PM
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16. A little background for you. He's running away from GDP after getting locked there....
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:14 PM
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24. Oh yeah, GDP causes me to run in fear.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:15 PM
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25. Damn, that OP said it all.
lol
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:05 PM
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12. And the gold medal in leaps of logic goes to rug!
:applause: :woohoo::applause: :woohoo::applause: :woohoo::applause: :woohoo::applause: :woohoo::applause: :woohoo::applause: :woohoo::applause: :woohoo::applause: :woohoo::applause: :woohoo:
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:12 PM
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20. According to thousands of failed threads over the last several years
any moment now...
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:17 PM
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27. We're waging war on pirates now....
then we can go to war with Iran.......ian pirates
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:17 PM
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28. We are NOT - fail for invalid issue conflation.
Iran is not attacking our shipping and holding it for ransom.

FAIL.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:24 PM
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32. Lol, "invalid issue conflation".
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:41 PM
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44. That needs to be sent to EarlG.
Classic!

lol
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:46 PM
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46. Did you hear that rug? He said you failed!
You might as well throw in the towel.....throw the towel!!!!!

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:20 PM
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30. Nix Iran...next stop Somalia!!
lets nuke 'em!!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:34 PM
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41. North Korea, too....nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:38 PM
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43. pfft...what do they have?
if they had anything good we would already be there.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:26 PM
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34. As soon as they take all of America hostage at gun point
Edited on Sun Apr-12-09 08:27 PM by stray cat
Of course - you don't have to be rescued if taken hostage if you don't want to be. Maybe you can talk any shooters down with peace, love and understanding and they will let you go.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:32 PM
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39. So you disapprove of Carter and prefer Reagan's approach.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:48 PM
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48. Thanks for confirming that DU has been taken over by the mob.
One used to come here to get away from posts like your.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:49 PM
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49. Why aren't you out somewhere burning an American flag?!
lol

:)
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:19 PM
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55. I thought about burning my state flag.
But I felt like people wouldn't get it. :rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:59 PM
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58. LOL
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:54 PM
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51. If Posters are Pissed Off at the "Bloodlust" of Other Posters Over the Pirates
then take it up with those posters. How hard is that to comprehend? Most of the "celebratory" posts here have been commending the Navy, the Seal team, Obama, and Captain Phillips himself.

Yes, there are people who are bloodthirsty, yes the United States has issues when it comes to Somalia, and yes this isn't going to solve the overall problem of piracy.

My God is it so hard to just be happy for one minute about the outcome of this particular incident. Painting with that broad brush must get just so tiring...
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:03 PM
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52. Nice avatar.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:12 PM
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54. Why Thank You
http://www.buccaneers.com/

Here read all about them. They even won a Super Bowl once but now they've gone back to sucking. Such is the life of a sports fan...

Anything else I can help you with tonight...?
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ShareTheWoods Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:51 PM
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56. When they start attacking our merchant ships
Not a second sooner.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:52 PM
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57. The stoopid is contagious
:dunce:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:26 PM
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59. hmmm,i thought we already did..if we did.did we win?
there is`t going to be an invasion of iran
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