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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:01 AM
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This MSNBC poll needs DU's attention
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:03 AM
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1. Definitely not getting an A from me, I can tell you that
Not until he stops blocking prosecution of those who authorized or committed torture in our name.
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:10 AM
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6. Are you
downgrading his overall performance, that would be used negatively by the Mornin Joe crowd because you disagree with him on one issue.?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:20 AM
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7. That's one big honkin' issue right there
It leaves the Democratic Party open to an even more virulent strain of this nonsense further down the line. Obama needs to step up and take action, and now.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:03 AM
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2. no, no it doesn't
but this PBS poll on the other hand...
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:04 AM
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3. Which one?
:shrug:
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:07 AM
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5. LOL, you beat me to it!
"Grade the Prez" has become the PBS Poll-435 of 2009. :rofl:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:05 AM
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4. The hate everything crowd has their grips on that one.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:22 AM
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8. K&R and DONE
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:25 AM
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9. Kick
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:31 AM
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10. If you're a Republican and like torture, vote "F". If you're a Democrat and hate torture, vote "F".
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 11:59 AM by Towlie
If you're angry that Obama is discontinuing the Bush Administration's torture policies, give him an "F".

If you're angry that Obama is not prosecuting the Bush Administration for its torture policies, give him an "F".

If you think Obama is not far enough to the left, give him an "F".

If you think Obama is not far enough to the right, give him an "F".

My point is that, by not addressing specific complaints about the President, this poll is way too vague and simplistic to reveal anything useful or meaningful about the public's attitude toward him. The wording lends it an intrinsic negative bias that can only mislead and invite abuse from the right.

If you were grading Barack Obama on his performance as president, what would he get? * 2291938 responses

He gets an A 29%
He gets a B 6.2%
He gets a C 5.6%
He gets a D 15%
He gets an F 44%

Not a scientific survey. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3704453/">Click to learn more. Results may not total 100% due to rounding.





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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:24 PM
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11. It's an online poll
The population is self-selecting. The questions are sloppy. The resulting numbers have no significance. That's common in these things, and everyone understands that.

I'd still like to see the high grades get the majority of votes. That's irrational and emotional, but there it is.
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 01:21 PM
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12. I think you caught the major problem of my view of the poll
It is meaningless without a chance to describe the reason for your view. I never thought that Obama was the be all/end all savior of the universe. He has proven to be what I expected, better than Bush III but too in love with the financial community to give them the kick in the ass they need.
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:58 PM
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13. It reminds me of the polls that showed greater disapproval of Congress than of Bush.
And over the last few years, Bush supporters just loved to gloat about it every chance they got. They just couldn't grasp that people disapproved of Congress largely because Congress refused to impeach Bush.
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doctor jazz Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 04:05 PM
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14. Some people will give him an F no matter what he does, and
some will give him an A no matter what he does.

Nobody in either of those groups has the intelligence of a dead slug.
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:09 PM
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15. done..n/t
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