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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:18 PM
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The Most Dangerous American States
http://finance.yahoo.com/real-estate/article/102714/The-Most-Dangerous-American-States

For the fourth year in a row, Nevada has earned the dubious distinction of being the most dangerous state in America, according to a survey published Thursday.

Based on annual statistics, Nevada had the highest crime rate among the 50 states across the country, according to Morgan Quitno Press, an independent researcher in Lawrence, Kansas, which publishes the rankings annually.

"The story for Nevada remains the same as in previous years," Scott Morgan, president of Morgan Quitno Press, remarked in the report. "As a rapidly growing state, it struggles with crime and other problems. It has some of the highest murder, robbery and motor vehicle theft rates in the country."

1 Nevada
2 New Mexico
3 Arizona
4 Maryland
5 Tennessee
6 South Carolina
7 Alaska
8 Florida
9 California 1
10 Louisiana
11 Michigan
12 Texas
13 Arkansas
14 Washington
15 Oklahoma
16 North Carolina
17 Alabama
18 Delaware
19 Missouri
20 Georgia
21 Illinois
22 Colorado
23 Ohio
24 Mississippi
25 Indiana
26 Pennsylvania
27 Kansas
28 Hawaii
29 Oregon
30 Massachusetts
31 New York
32 Minnesota
33 New Jersey
34 Kentucky
35 Rhode Island
36 Virginia
37 Nebraska
38 Utah
39 Idaho
40 Connecticut
41 West Virginia
42 Wisconsin
43 Iowa
44 Montana
45 South Dakota
46 Wyoming
47 New Hampshire
48 Maine
49 Vermont
50 North Dakota

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:21 PM
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1. It is hard to picture South Carolina having a higher crime rate
than California.

Nevada, because of Las Vegas, maybe?

Interesting that NM and Arizona are so high on the list.

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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:40 AM
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37. Why does that picture make me think of a Proctologist?
nt
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 09:12 PM
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40. Think illegal immigration might be a contributing factor?
Edited on Sun Apr-01-07 09:17 PM by D__S
"Interesting that NM and Arizona are so high on the list".

That and drug smuggling?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:23 PM
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2. North Dakota does have something to recommend
Ain't nobody here to do the crime. :evilgrin:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:37 PM
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7. Just remember to turn off the lights next time you come to the Cities
No sense leaving the entire state on when it's empty!
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:52 PM
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9. Gotta leave one on to find the switch when i get back.
Do worry, it's a fluorescent.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:25 PM
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3. Iowa is no. 43
and yet the Guardian Angels are coming to our town. There are certain parts of Iowa which have a lot more crime than other parts of Iowa. But overall, it ain't a bad place to be.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:31 PM
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4. Alabama is in the bottom three on every list of good things,
but most crime? Number 17, with a bullet. Hey, at least home-grown criminals don't hate us for our freedoms - or whatever... :eyes:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:36 PM
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5. I'm surprised Connecticut's so low
There are some real shitholes in Bridgeport, Stamford, New Haven, and Hartford. One year, I think it was 2002 or 2003, the number of homicides in Hartford TRIPLED, from 16 to 48, then back down to 18.

The expensive suburbs (the 'Gold Coast') forces a lot of people to live in cramped housing in crappy areas.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:12 PM
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17. Probably the survey left off corporate white collar crime. That's your CT problem there.
Also, I understand the Stepford Wives are all robots.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 02:22 AM
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32. LOL true
They seem to be focusing on violent and property crime. Of course, there are places there that have lots of that. Iranistan Ave in Bridgeport comes to mind. :shudder:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:37 PM
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6. Alaska has the highest rate
of sexual assault in the country. I don't know why.
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:51 PM
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8. lack of females in Alaska
Alaska led the States with the highest male-female ratio (107.0) according to the 2000 Census

I guess lack of opportunities will cause some men to rape?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:07 PM
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16. I didn't realize that we were still outnumbered that much
It used to be much more so back in the pipeline days. Alaska -- where the odds are good, but the goods are odd. :rofl:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:15 PM
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19. I had a friend who use to do summer jobs up there and said in Alaka women are both
rare and "well-done."

I have no idea what she was talking about.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:40 PM
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25. "Well done"????
I'm not quite sure what that means either. :rofl: Maybe it depends on what the definition of "done" is.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 12:19 AM
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29. More like alcohol and cabin fever than "lack of opportunities" leading to rape.
Better get educated on what rape is and isn't. "lack of opportunities"? Nope.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:15 PM
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20. Cabin fever + angry frustrated men? n/t
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:42 PM
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26. Plus a healthy dose of alcohol...
...also a serious problem here.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:53 PM
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10. I find it hard to believe Texas is not in the top ten
this state sucks
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 10:52 PM
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13. They haven't counted the Bush Crime Family
statistics yet, it's an ongoing investigation.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:06 PM
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15. Well, for the most part, the worst of the Bushies isn't here.
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 11:06 PM by Ilsa
The worst one spends his time theiving and killin in Washington DC. And JEB's FL made #8.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:51 PM
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27. Yes, the whole nation KNOWS that Texas and Florida SUCKS
if anything WEIRD happens.....you can bet/be assured that it was in TEXAS or FLORIDA.....BUSH country (play the theme to *Ponderosa* now).
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 03:17 AM
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36. Texas cured their crime problem in typical republik fashion,
they just legalized crime (Florida too).
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:59 PM
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11. I'd love to know exactly how they calculated their ratings.
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 10:00 PM by napi21
Is it purely the # of crimes, or is it # or crimes per resident population? I find it very difficult to believe that Calif. one of the most populated states has a lower crime rate than Tn or AK? I checked the link and it didn't have any info.

I always question these studies. Always remember, statistics can prove anything you want them to prove.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:27 PM
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23. It's got to be per capita, but even still- there's bound to be
variation in the reporting and tracking of crime statistics in different states. Still, I'd be interested to know what the spread is.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:37 PM
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24. U.S. Census Bureau - State Rankings VIOLENT CRIME
"The survey, which did not include the District of Columbia, looked at rates from 2005
for six major crimes including murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary and auto theft,
comparing those to the national average."

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State Rankings -- Statistical Abstract of the United States
VIOLENT CRIME \1 PER 100,000 POPULATION -- 2004


When states share the same rank, the next lower rank is omitted.
Because of rounded data, states may have identical values shown, but different ranks

http://www.census.gov/statab/ranks/rank21.html

On this list my state is moved down the list quite a bit!
Although those numbers are from 2004.

----------------------------------------------------

PS---------->

Cautionary note about rankings

http://www.census.gov/statab/ranks/note.html

The ranks in some tables are based on estimates derived from a sample(s). Because of sampling and nonsampling errors associated with the estimates, the ranking of the estimates does not necessarily reflect the correct ranking of the unknown true values. Thus, caution should be used when making inferences or statements about the states' true values based on a ranking of the estimates. As an example, the estimated total (average, percent, ratio, etc.) for State A may be larger than the estimates for all other states. This does not necessarily mean that the true total (average, percent, ratio, etc.) for State A is larger than those for all other states. Such an inference typically depends on --among other factors-- the size of the difference(s) between the estimates in question, and the size of their associated standard errors.

In other tables, the ranks are based on a complete enumeration of the target population, or on complete administrative reporting from the population. In such cases, sampling is not used, and there is no sampling error component in the estimates. Still, care should still be taken when making inferences or statements based on the rankings. The table values may still exhibit nonsampling error originating from such sources as coverage problems (missing units or duplicates), nonresponse, misreporting, and others.


Last Revised: February 11, 2005 at 10:34:28 AM


I agree that they could have fudged the numbers anyway they wanted and may have as; the method isn't included.
Have to consider that the OP's List Rank came from CNN Money too; I think. ;)
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 10:03 PM
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12. I don't care about the crime rate ...
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 10:04 PM by jeff30997
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:17 PM
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21. I hope your somewhat sarcastic with that statement.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 08:16 PM
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38. No I'm not.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:05 PM
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14. Maryland is #4?
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 11:05 PM by turtlensue
WTF? I really find that hard to believe. Based on population figures that seems weird. There are two counties in this state that have bad crime issues, but the res of the state is okay. And Va is 36? give me a break. I live near Va and they have crime issues as well. This is a nutty survey.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:14 PM
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18. 3 border states 1-2-3
What the hell is going on down there?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:21 PM
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22. Nevada isn't a border state
Unless by border, you mean the top 3 are continguous.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 01:40 AM
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30. No, Hawaii isn't a border state. All the other states have borders.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 01:46 AM
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31. I'm not catching your meaning
NM and Arizona are border states, but not Nevada. The three are contiguous, though. Not sure where Hawaii comes into this.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 03:01 AM
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34. it was a joke. All the states have borders, ergo they're "border" states. Hawaii borders nothing.
It was a small joke and now I've told it twice.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 03:05 AM
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35. Aiyiyi
My fault. Things tend to slide off my teflon-coated noggin.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 12:17 AM
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28. Lawrence, KS? I am suprised I don't know more about them. Bet Mabus does
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 02:30 AM
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33. My state is
always far down on the list. Vermont. Liberal, rural and oddly enough, lots of guns.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 09:09 PM
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39. What's odd about that?
"oddly enough, lots of guns."

:shrug:

Vermont easily has the least restrictive gun control laws in the nation... one doesn't even need a permit to carry a concealed handgun.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 09:16 PM
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41. Seems like the further North a state is...
the lower the crime rate... regardless if it's a Blue state or Red state.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 09:53 PM
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42. The South was much more violent than the North
before the Civil War perhaps because of the institutionalized violence of slavery. Northern crimes were more in the nature of theft and vandalism etc. This seems to continue to some degree.
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