Christian blogger "People who torture are possessed by demons

[Joanne98]

I agree.

http://jehurst.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/lets-clarify-torture/

Let’s Clarify Torture

You can ramble on for days about official definitions, provisions, and every other semantic weaseling you like, but we all know what torture is. Any honest definition includes using fear, repulsion, hatred, pain and other highly emotional manipulations of captured or detained people.

As always, I don’t apologize for basing such declarations on my religious faith. Crucifixion was a form of torture which everyone knew was fatal. If simply executing the prisoner was the purpose, there are far more efficient ways to do it. We go on and on about humane procedures for ending life in animals, and it’s patently illegal in just about every place on earth I’ve visited to torment them for any reason. But somehow it’s our policy to treat captured enemies so badly no one wants to describe it in plain terms.

Bad as all that may be, the person administering the torture has to be someone you’d never want to meet. What happens when someone finds it “okay” to torture for any reason? Here’s that religion thing again: Demons enter their souls. They become demon-possessed, literally possessed by demons. There’s a plethora of studies in human behavior science showing people capable of torture are broken, bent and have entered far into the realm of “abnormal” — they are sick, dangerously psychotic — by conditioning to which they voluntarily submitted.

Let’s pretend I had a much beloved pre-teen daughter. Let’s further pretend she was captured and held by a band of nefarious terrorists, and we had managed to arrest one. Would I sanction terrorizing and torturing this man to get the information on her location for a rescue? No. If she were my daughter she would know that, too. She would know any society which finds it must torture to gain anything worthwhile, that society is already doomed, dead, and hopeless. If I permit torture, the demons enter my soul. If I rescue her by torture, the demons enter her soul. You cannot do God’s good work using Satan’s methods. God calls torture “sin”. I’d rather my daughter suffer and die and go to Heaven than let demons take over her life on earth, and mine, along with whomever we commission to do that torture. I’d certainly rather take her place in a heartbeat, but the cost to the rest of humanity is just too high for my personal wishes to take precedence over everything else. I loved my own daughter all her life; love her still. I love other humans, too.

Life isn’t worth much when you slam to door on God. Don’t comprehend that value system? Then it saddens me to inform you Satan is your God, and Hell is your eternal destiny. The real battle in this world has nothing to do with any political division between humans. That’s just background noise, and any nation which tortures is doomed, already under the judgment hand of God. America is already dead.

http://jehurst.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/lets-clarify-torture/

[Vickers]

1. "Then it saddens me to inform you Satan is your God"

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PRAISE SATAN!

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[rurallib]

2. I don't know how many times I was told "Bush is a man of God"

by chistianists

[Fumesucker]

3. At least he is on the correct side of the debate..

I'm not going to quibble over details.

[madeline_con]

4. "You cannot do God’s good work using Satan’s methods. "

Did the blogger just say the capture of suspects is "God's work"? :puke:

[msongs]

5. another non-believers are scum who are going to hell diatribe. how loving. nt

[Seldona]

6. So the christians who tortured are demons now?

Or were before they tortured? I am confused. How can one be a christian satan worshipper? Fine, I will give you Ted Haggard.

When did the big take-over occur? Or were these christians always demons?

[Joanne98]

7. Yeah. Isn't it great? I feel a big split coming within the fundie community.

[undeterred]

8. At least they have the basic idea that torture is bad.

The tortured logic which says that torture can be done in the service of a greater good is the enemy.

[rrneck]

9. The devil made them do it.

Right. Got it. Somehow abdicating responsibility doesn't sound any better when applied to some other asshole than it does when applied to one's self. Sooner or later, the asshole that determines just who is possessed will turn on those idiots and they will find out just how far their heads are up their own asses.

But then it'll be too late.