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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:50 PM
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Is "Swine Flu" another hyped POS to get tough Immigration Laws Passed?
I'm seeing hype about "Swine Flu" all over DU this Weekend...but I remember that GHOUL CHERTOFF who skipped New Orleans DROWNING to attend "Bird Flu Conference in Atlanta" ...and he always said..."that was a most important conference."

We've had so many "Fake Alerts" during Bush Admnistration about Flu and Viruses...yet the very things that KILL OUR PETS...and MAYBE "US" have come from China or our own lack of supervision by our FDA over Peanuts and Baby Food and all kinds of ALERTS about AMERICAN COMPANIES!

So...we now have "Swine Flu in Mexico." Just get those Limbaugh and the Rest folks on Faux News saying "CLOSE THE BORDERS...QUARENTEEN those MEXICANS!" and you get the Public OUTCRY against IMMIGRANTS that the RW is working for.

Swine Flue, Bird Flu...PANDEMICS...I still see that Ghoul, Chertoff's Hand in this. He has his own Consulting Company these days to push this stuff 24/7.

I really wish the Obama Administrtion would cut this stuff off and bring in REAL SCIENTISTS to talk about the Issue without all the Hooplah and Bush Type Polemics/Rhetoric and the rest.

DISGUSTING.... We are all so vulnerable to Swine Flu we could be DEAD... Give me a BREAK!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:51 PM
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1. A few here stated the border should be closed
could be a hint as to the real push behind this............
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:03 PM
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13. And then of course
it will be perfectly acceptable if Canada closes theirs etc etc.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:51 PM
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2. No. Just the latest in a string of media hype stories. (edited to include links)
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 06:57 PM by dem629
They'll move on to something else as soon as there's a plane crash or a celeb goes into rehab.

The media loves hype stories. People panic and watch more.

The "summer of the shark" actually saw fewer shark attacks than normal. (Here's one source: http://www.sptimes.net/2002/02/19/news_pf/State/Fewer_shark_attacks_c.shtml)

The "summer of kidnappings" actually saw fewer kidnappings than usual, according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. (Here's one source: http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2002/08/07/kidnapping/index.html )

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:52 PM
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4. Did you take biology in high school? nt
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:55 PM
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8. What exactly do you mean
by "high school"?

:eyes:

I guess your point is that any high school graduate could expertly comment on this? Great!
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:00 PM
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11. No I mean that it is a big story
with a potential for disaster. The potential of disaster is taught in high school biology re the nature of viruses. The news is doing what news does. Repeating the same thing over and over and waiting for the next thing in the story to report ad nauseum. Still it is the weekend and many people have no idea what is going on.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:03 PM
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14. I agree. It's a big story.
They're all big stories...until the next "big story" comes along.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:52 PM
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3. no nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:52 PM
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5. It's the new Leprosy!
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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:53 PM
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6. This is a very serious issue!
We need to get to the bottom of this -- even if it takes torture. Millions of lives are at stake.
Who should we torture first?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:54 PM
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7. No. Hysteria happens on both ends of the spectrum I guess. n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:56 PM
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9. I don't know about the conspiracy theory, but I'm certainly skeptical of the "we're all dead" thing.
I'm not sure how this is Obama's fault, naturally.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:57 PM
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10. It is in the U.S. now 200 hundred kids in New York
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:11 PM
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18. WRONG the word is SUSPECT, stop spreading panic.
what the hell is wrong with you? If you have proof post links instead of innuendo.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:19 PM
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20. I am not wrong I have read every news article on this since last night
There has been confirmation of this flu in some of those students. They justs returned from Mexico and when the rest of the results come back we shall see
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:23 PM
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22. YOU ARE TRYING TO SPREAD PANIC god you have problems.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:29 PM
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24. Why do you accuse everybody who doesn't laugh this off of "spreading panic"?
I'm not panicking...but I want to know what's going on.

Relax, dude...you can think this is all a "big pharma" conspiracy or baseless hype or aliens or whatever. That's fine.

...but posting updated reports on the situation is NOT "spreading panic".
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:31 PM
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25. I am not a 'dude' and if you think that is the way to address me
relax this.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:33 PM
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27. Aren't you just a ray of sunshine n/t
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:40 PM
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28. You regularly tell people to go fuck themselves and "dude" offends you?
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 07:41 PM by MercutioATC
Very well.

Sir, why do you accuse everybody who doesn't laugh this off of trying to "spread panic"?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:50 PM
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31. In my tenure here I have never used the words 'fuck off' or go fuck themselves or fuck you
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 07:51 PM by DainBramaged
But now for you I will use only one

'Click'

Buh Bye.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:01 PM
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12. doesn't look that way.
to believe that you'd have to believe that Mexican health authorities and the CDC are in collusion with, well, I'm not sure who. oh and it's quarantine not quarenteen.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:06 PM
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15. amd the F'n mexican gov is part if the hype.. 68 dead 1000 cases, quarentines,
http://www.newser.com/article/d97po1og0/swine-flu-with-pandemic-potential-grips-mexico-capital-quarantines-searches-authorized.html
The World Health Organization said the outbreak has become a "public health emergency of international concern" and asked countries around the world to step up reporting and surveillance of the disease and implement a coordinated response to contain it.

The Mexican government issued a decree authorizing President Felipe Calderon to invoke special powers letting the Health Department isolate patients and inspect homes, incoming travelers and baggage."

good thing it's only a fake flu. i hate the real flu

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-flu26-2009apr26,0,2116819.story
Kansas health authorities had confirmed two new cases of swine flu in their state, California has confirmed another case in Imperial County and New York City officials have identified eight probable cases, bringing the U.S. total to 19 likely cases.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:46 PM
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29. The twitter breaking news feed
just had this
Mexican officials say fatalities jumped from 68 to 81 in 24 hours.
I am looking for comfirmation.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:06 PM
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16. It's big news here in Canada - and we have no need to pass immigration laws
If this were US media bullshit, we wouldn't pay attention to it.

That said, I would not be surprised if it WERE used for that purpose.

In any disaster, pay MORE attention to the side stories, I say.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:08 PM
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17. No n/t
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:15 PM
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19. No.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:19 PM
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21. Why do you say "NO!"
:shrug:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:28 PM
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33. In my opinion
this is a medical emergency not a conspiracy.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:26 PM
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23. 'QUARANTEEN'?!?!?!
:rofl:

:spray:

:rofl: :rofl:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:49 PM
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30. OH SNAP!
:rofl:
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:32 PM
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26. Calderon is a loyal neo-con who owes his "election" to the CIA
So, anything is possible.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:58 PM
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32. No its real - but the 7% mortality rate is likely higher than reality -
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 08:01 PM by stray cat
since it only counts those who report an infection. Unlike most flu - healthy individuals may carry a higher risk. The CDC is working with it along with the World Health Organization and I know people who are working with the CDC on a reassortment that can be used for a vaccine (it might be ready by next year but this strain may be around for that long.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:34 PM
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34. I don't think any part of the world can avoid any communicable disease
this way. International air travel is the norm. it just can't be done. It's too 19th century.


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