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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:32 AM
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Contract betrayal will give UAW majority ownership in Chrysler
Everything workers have traditionally associated with a trade union—the right to strike, higher wages and benefits than non-union workers, shop floor protections, a chance to retire with a secure pension and health care benefits—has been jettisoned.

There will no longer be even the pretense of collective bargaining and contract guarantees. Instead, according to the contract summary, wage and benefit rates “will be based on Chrysler maintaining an all-in hourly labor cost comparable to its US competitors, including transplant automotive manufacturers.”

In other words, UAW workers will be paid the same or less than non-union workers at the Japanese-owned factories in Mississippi, Alabama and other southern states—with one difference: They will still have to pay dues to the UAW.

Under the terms of the agreement, time-and-a-half pay for working more than eight hours or on weekends will be eliminated, with overtime calculated instead on a weekly basis, i.e., for hours worked over 40.

Break time will be reduced from 46 to 40 minutes each day.

Cost of living allowances—won after the 67-day strike by GM workers in 1970—will be eliminated, along with performance and Christmas bonuses.

Skilled trades will be consolidated into two classifications.

The two-day Easter holiday will be eliminated.

The UAW’s collaboration in offering up the next generation of auto workers as a source of cheap labor, without the slightest job security, continues. The agreement will extend the use of temporary part-time employees and the hiring of so-called “entry-level employees” who are paid half the wages of older workers and receive few benefits and no employer-paid pensions.

All workers at the Twinsburg, Ohio stamping plant will be forced to accept lower-tier wages, in order to keep the plant “viable.”

Supplemental unemployment benefits, which, along with state unemployment benefits, provided laid-off workers with 90 percent of their wages, will be sharply reduced, just as the company plans to carry out a major downsizing. Instead, workers will receive “transitional assistance,” which, along with state benefits, will pay only 50 percent of workers’ gross pay.

Perhaps the most brutal treatment is being meted out to retirees and their families. As part of the deal with the Obama administration, the UAW agreed to accept half of the $10 billion owed to its already underfunded Chrysler retiree health care trust (known as a Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Association, or VEBA) in Chrysler stock, instead of cash. Previously, the UAW—which will oversee the provision of medical coverage to some 125,000 retirees and their dependents beginning January 1, 2010—said there would be no changes in benefits until 2012. It has now agreed to immediate “benefit adjustments.” These include sharply higher drug co-pays and the elimination of vision and dental care.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/apr2009/chry-a29.shtml

Shafted. Bad.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:47 AM
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1. bad link
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:57 AM
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2. How do Chrysler autoworkers feel about the deal to own majority shares of the company.
I don't really care so much what the World Socialist Website has to say about it, absent some insight from the actual people with families that will be impacted by the deal, or the consequences of no deal.

:shrug:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:08 AM
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3. The OP is with GM. I'd guess his post reflects his feelings about it, at least.
The workers won't own the company shares, that's the error in your thinking.

The bought-&-sold company union as an entity will, & their shills will "manage" it.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:39 AM
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4. I'm a 38 year member
Union official are elected.
Look, the only job worse than a shitty job is no job. These people have families to take care of. The WSW wants workers with out jobs to push their agenda. Just as you think you see thru the UAW leadership, others can see thru the WSW. Other than political power, what's in it for them? You might want to look at jobs and the economy. Little choice at the moment, there are times to fight and times to waite.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:42 AM
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5. yeah, heard it for the last 30 years. good show.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:17 AM
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6. You can't eat or pay the bills with no job, that's for sure.
I hope, for the sake of the workers, that one day that majority share comes in handy for them.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:30 AM
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7. They can use it to set an example for labor.
Build the best and most popular, with everything aimed at looking out for labor. Perhaps someday, they can be a model for transforming Corporate (Global) America into Cooperative Companies for American Labor.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:40 AM
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10. the workers don't get it. & the new uaw management is laying them off & dropping their pay.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:32 AM
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8. The WSW doesn't need them out of jobs to push their agenda, there's already plenty of jobless folk
The WSW could counter that the UAW needs those workers to get continually shafted in order to maintain its own existence.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:47 PM
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36. Tham damn commyunists want us all too be poor!11!!!
To poosh there ajenda dowen are throwts!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:34 AM
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9. The people working at the non-union transplants will take a bigger hit
Just watch and see. The only reason they were making what they were was because of the UAW.

Don
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:40 AM
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11. They will be working though, won't they? Isn't that better than not
working?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:50 AM
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13. hey, how bout those plantations, better to be working & fed than not working, eh.
is this "democratic" underground?

how much shit is it people are willing to eat?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:51 AM
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14. Talk about job security!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:01 AM
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18. Not if they can't pay their bills.
Not if they can't afford to send their
children to college, pay the mortgage
or cover their health care.

Who need low-wage conservatism when
democrats think it's OK for corporations
to beat them out in a race to the bottom?

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:05 AM
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20. the trust fund variety of dems, that is. gotta keep the share values high,
& you know soaking the working class is good for that.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:18 AM
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25. I understand now! If they have NO job at all, they can afford all
those things you mention. I get it now. Thanks for clearing this up.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:23 AM
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27. oh, i get it now, if they have a shit for wages, shit for bennies job, there's more for the owners.
and apparently you'll feel better since no one will get a longer break than *you*, which is of course the most important thing.


thanks for clearing that up.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:16 AM
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30. It is possible to get along without some of those things. I worked
for seven years with Dept of Corrections. Shift was 8 hours. There were no scheduled breaks, no scheduled time for a meal, simply 8 hours. Oh, and there was a union.

A question: will the UAW leadership take a similar loss in all those things that are being bemoaned?

“…The tentative agreement was approved unanimously by UAW leaders yesterday and…”

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=al89RU9gWof8&refer=home

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:49 AM
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31. it's possible to do lots of things. why should we have to, just so super-rich people can have more?
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:32 PM
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33. But the question remains - do the UAW leaders give up any salary
or benefits or breaks or anything, or are they simply cutting the workers and keeping all their administration type perqs? Are they really giving up any of their own stuff?

I do not hate rich people, but it appears that many do. I do not envy them their things. I am comfortable with what I have. If it takes more things to make rich people happy, then good for them. If one has enough, what difference really does it make if the hated "super rich" have more?

Working as a prison guard without breaks or time for meals didn't benefit any super-rich people that I know of. I knew when I took the job that the shifts would be straight through.

I guess there may be a vaccine for my lack of wealth-envy, but since I'm comfortable I don't think I'll take it.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:45 PM
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35. It's not a question of "envy," sorry if you don't get it. People & communities are being
impoverished, losing the livelihoods, homes, & community stability.

So super-rich people can have more - money & power.

Your response?

I'm happy with my crust, massa, I'm willing to live in a hovel, or even on the streets, why can't everyone be like me!
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:38 PM
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37. That is just plain pitiful.
You are just plain pitiful. Your envy and hatred have made you a bitter person. Have a good life, and good bye.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:01 PM
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39. i find your serf-like attitude equally repugnant to democratic values.
"whatever the patroon gives me is good enough for me! i'll live in a paper bag in a septic tank - & LIKE it, by God!"
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:36 PM
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34. I think you are banging your head against a wall
The anti-union crowd are so brainwashed by propaganda that you won't get them to understand they are fighting against their own best interest.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:57 PM
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38. apparently. or perhaps they're just hired shills. i'd rather believe that than
that they're so obsequieous & cattle-like.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:48 PM
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40. Can you say C-L-A-S-S W-A-R?
They think they are above working class concerns.

I know people like that, even here in MICHIGAN.

It blows my mind, that EVEN NOW, they cannot
make the connections in their minds that in
the race to the bottom, there will BE NO WINNERS.
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:48 AM
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12. Two-day Easter holiday? OT after working 8 hours a day?
Sorry, but not many workplaces have such rules.... At Easter, you're lucky to get a half-day off on Good Friday and at various employers I've had OT for non-salaried employees became effective only after working a 40-hour week. In many workplaces, including the one where I currently work, hourly employees only get a 30-minute lunch break.

It sucks, for sure, but those changes are somewhat in line with most U.S. employers.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:52 AM
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15. yesssssss, yessss they areeeeeeeeeee........
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:10 AM
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21. ...
:rofl:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:57 AM
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16. Assembly line work is different from paralegal work, it requires breaks for the sake of safety
Even telemarketing usually has a 10 minute break every 2 hours or so in addition to lunch because it is necessary for workers to take a pause from the constant activity that the machines can put them through or they'd either lose their voices or likely be unable to operate effectively.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:03 AM
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19. breaks? hell, they should just be happy they have jobs. i don't get breaks, why should they?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:12 AM
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22. Luxury!! We had to pay the mill owner for PERMISSION to work!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:16 AM
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24. we didn't have cups - we had to drink out of rolled up newspapers.
and we liked it!
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:21 AM
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26. That was before the "redistribution of cups" programs, when only
the upper 10% had cups. Now, there are cups for everyone.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:29 AM
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29. you missed the redistribution of the redistribution, when the bankers took them back.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:16 AM
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23. Fuckin' a, man..
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 07:17 AM by Fumesucker
Nobody should have it any better than anyone else..

Unless they are so rich they don't have to work, then *everything* should go their way.

'Cuz you know, I'm gonna be rich when I win the lottery next week, I have a hunner't two dollar scratch 'n win cards right here.

Edited for speling..

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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:25 AM
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28. Well, sadly I am no longer a paralegal
I now work in HR for a construction company at a construction site, so my hourly workers are all construction workers. They get a 30-minute lunch break and minor breaks here and there for exercises and smoking.

I also know how assembly lines work, since my ex-hubby worked in one for many years. I was just making the point that the changed rules, if indeed true, are not much different than any of the rules at the majority of employers in the U.S. I am not gauging the fairness or decency of the policies, merely that they resemble what most other employees in the U.S. get.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:04 PM
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32. I have seen the actual agreement, they will get 5 minutes for each hour worked.
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 12:07 PM by madmom
edited to add: Gm gave up their christmas bonuses years ago. See,we HAVE been giving things up contrary to what the msm has been saying.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:01 AM
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17. My cousin is a Chrysler worker
I need to get the straight skinny from her.
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