glarius
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Tue May-05-09 05:29 PM
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Ed Schultz shuts up a GOP jerk who was dissing European and Canadian health care! |
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Edited on Tue May-05-09 05:32 PM by glarius
Finally someone on American TV has said what we in Canada (and the European countries) know to be a fact.....Our health care is first class and we also have first class medical research being done. The Republican spokesman was spouting the usual lies about how government should not be involved in "running" health care. Every point this jerk brought up, Ed had an answer for and made the guy look like a fool! I keep hearing anti-universal health care people in the U.S.A. saying things like...."Canadians can't choose their own doctors" and "the government makes all their medical decisions.".....All lies....I know from personal experience...I've changed doctors twice in the last several years...No problem. The government PAYS THE BILLS, PERIOD! THEY HAVE NO OTHER INVOLVEMENT. GOOD LUCK AMERICA! You deserve universal health care too!
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Tue May-05-09 05:30 PM
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Tue May-05-09 05:34 PM
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2. I always looked for the corpses littering the sidewalks due to shoddy |
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Canadian health care every time I was in Canada.
Never did find any.
Spain, too. Couldn't find any people dying on the steps of hospitals.
Hmmm.
You guys must bury them quick or something.
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Tue May-05-09 05:55 PM
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5. The anti-universal health care people keep saying we wait |
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forever for operations. Wrong!....Elective operations have waiting lists, but serious and urgent things are taken care of right away. In a recent poll 93% of our people said they want to keep our system. Either we're all stupid or we're being lied about by right wingers.
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Tue May-05-09 06:02 PM
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7. Try being an HMO member, like I am. |
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Waiting for health care is a given.
Months.
If you're lucky, you can get in on a cancellation, if you happen to check that day, and you are able to leave work on short notice.
Unless it's life-threatening, you will wait.
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Wed May-06-09 04:49 PM
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14. You cannot reason with these people. My accountant, a very well educated man in |
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his profession, actually said to me that the reason you and the Europeans don't elect to have American style health care, is that you don't know any better. I suggested to him that he take a trip to Europe or Canada and ask around. I didn't want to get into a fight with the guy, but he was so clueless I couldn't even speak for a couple of minutes...
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Tue May-05-09 05:38 PM
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3. Thanks for your support! |
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I find it interesting that some Americans believe that gov't involvement would take our choices away and be expensive while dealing with a system where insurance companies make our decisions and it's incredibly expensive!
Insurance execs are getting very rich from sick Americans.
Just wondering...where are you in Canada? My husband's aunts and cousins live in Montreal.
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Tue May-05-09 05:40 PM
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4. I live in Southern Ontario....not far from the U.S.A. border! n/t |
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Tue May-05-09 05:57 PM
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6. I'm east of Cleveland, Ohio so we're practically neighbors! nt |
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Tue May-05-09 06:04 PM
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8. Many thanks from someone just south of B.C. |
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Tue May-05-09 06:07 PM
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9. Look the the US health care system was so great |
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why are Americans streaming across to Canada and not the reverse. Fugg those anti- health care, corporate loving LIARS.
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Tue May-05-09 06:16 PM
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12. We all know what this is about... |
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It's not about quality of care, because who cares if the cure is available if noone can afford it?
It's not about choice because we already don't make our own!
It's about greed.
Insurance and pharma have a lot of money and they spread it around liberally to keep the money train coming. The fact that they're scamming on sick and dying people doesn't seem to bother them. They spread lies about healthcare so they can keep profiting.
A large portion of our healthcare dollars go to line the pockets of insurance and pharma execs. And they are very, very wealthy.
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Tue May-05-09 06:10 PM
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10. Thanks for sharing that info. It's good to know how other systems |
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are working. Hope we can get as good a system here.
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Tue May-05-09 06:13 PM
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11. He did the same to a caller on his radio show yesterday... |
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Some wingnut (posing as a "reasonable conservative who listens to reasonable spokesmen from the other side") came on, and eventually started talking about how, under universal health care, people with severe illnesses would have to submit their requests for treatment to a political review board, who would decide which of them deserved care. :eyes: He then said that this was the procedure in Canada, and that lots of Canadians had been warning Americans to not adopt their system because it was so costly, inefficient, and restrictive. Ed put the guy on hold for a commercial, and, when they came back, put him on together with a Canadian caller pointing out that everything he had been saying was B.S., and that the Canadian system was great. ROFL!
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Wed May-06-09 04:58 PM
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16. Better to have one's illness put before an insurance review board who will refuse to pay or better |
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to have an HMO choose a Doctor, I guess. Wingnuts are stupid, gullible, self-serving and greedy, just the way the health insurance industry likes 'em. I've an idea, don't want single-payer health care, don't use it. Pretty simple, eh? :evilgrin:
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Wed May-06-09 03:55 PM
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13. I have "health insurance" through my job. It costs me $200/month |
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out of pocket as well as any chance at a raise for the last three years. Owner of the company points to rising costs and says, "That's where the raises are going". My deductible is $1500/year each for me and my wife. Being young and healthy, the insurance company never had to spend a penny for either of us because we have never met the deductibles in any given year, but the wife of a co-worker just had to have "emergency" eye surgery for a partially detached retina. She had to wait two days for the operation so one of the surgeons in our network could do it despite the warning from the ER doctor that delaying the operation risked permanent sight loss. Our insurance company said they wouldn't pay for an out of network (yet immediately available) surgeon to do it and since she lost her job last winter, they couldn't possibly afford to pay for the whole thing themselves. As is she is responsible for her $1500 deductible plus 20% of the cost of surgery, meds, follow up care, and therapy. She needed a special chair to sleep face down in for a week after the operation and they are refusing to pay for it or its rental because they consider it a "non-essential piece of medical equipment".
I look with envy at our good neighbors to the north every time I hear such a story.
The Canadian approach is better in every conceivable way from where I sit.
I'm glad Big Ed is shouting down those telling lies about your health care system.
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Wed May-06-09 04:54 PM
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15. My Family and I "Suffered" Through European Health Care For 8 Years |
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When I think of the fine care that we received...including the birth of my youngest son...the timely intervention of specialists when necessary...the kindness of the family doctor, be it in the Netherlands or Germany...the many trips to the pharmacy where no payment was required...
...of course, I shudder. The HELL those poor people have to endure.
:sarcasm:
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