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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:11 AM
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Is It High Noon at the G.O.P. Corral?
OUCH!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/07/opinion/l07brooks.html?hpw


Is It High Noon at the G.O.P. Corral?


Published: May 6, 2009

To the Editor:

Op-Ed Columnist: The Long Voyage Home (May 5, 2009)


David Brooks, in “The Long Voyage Home” (column, May 5), reminds Republicans that they are, or should be, the party of civic order.

Since the ancient republics, however, civic order has been the product of civic virtue, the principle of participation in government and protection of the interests of the commonwealth and the common good.

The community in a republic is not formed simply to achieve order. It is formed to respect and guarantee to future generations all those goods we hold in common.

Gary Hart
Kittredge, Colo., May 5, 2009

The writer, a former Democratic senator from Colorado, is the author of a book about the Jeffersonian ideal in 21st-century America.




To the Editor:

David Brooks posits that Republicans are in trouble because they are “the party of untrammeled freedom and maximum individual choice.”

Huh?

Republicans favor government intrusions into such fundamental individual choices as reproductive health, marriage, adoption and death. That is a big part of their problem, one that they ignore at their peril.

Deborah Leavy
Haverford, Pa., May 5, 2009




To the Editor:

David Brooks’s excellent column struck a real chord with this cradle Republican.

I don’t recognize the people who have taken over the party my family served for 150 years. The Republicans I grew up among believed in democratic capitalism, not a feudal society of gated communities for themselves served by an ill-housed, ill-nourished, ill-educated, un-doctored servant population.

They were veterans and had learned in war that everyone is expendable. They did not have utter contempt for working people. Even amid the social upheaval of the ’60s, they were not like the callous, precious, entitled people currently calling themselves “Republicans.”

Ann N. Greene
Philadelphia, May 6, 2009




To the Editor:

I take exception to David Brooks’s assertion that one of Republicans’ core themes is “moral clarity.”

Perhaps moral clarity as a conservative or religious conservative might define moral.

Does the Republican position of disregard for a policy of health care for all show moral clarity? What moral? Indifference?

Does the Republican position of tax the poor and middle class and give tax-breaks to the rich show moral clarity? What moral? Selfishness?

How about the Republican position on global climate change? What moral? Ignorance?

What does the Republicans’ beloved trumpeting of individualism boil down to many times? Greed.

This self-held belief that the Republicans still cling to, that they are the party of moral clarity and family values, is delusional. The veil has been pulled down, and a majority of Americans see Republican policies and political tactics for what they are. Immoral.

Susan Hall Remacle
Canaan, N.H., May 5, 2009




To the Editor:

David Brooks would have us believe that inherent in the Republican philosophy is a belief in individual freedom. This is certainly so, if the freedom in question is to own any type of gun without restriction or to run a business without any regulations that protect the environment and the consumer.

But what if one is a man or woman who wants to marry a person of the same sex, or a woman who wants to choose whether to bring a child into the world? Not so much.

James Spada
Boston, May 5, 2009




To the Editor:

David Brooks got it only half right when he wrote that the Republicans draw the wrong lessons from classic western movies.

Instead of emulating the lone pioneer hero like Wyatt Earp, as Mr. Brooks suggests, the Republicans are acting like a gang of ruffians who ride into town and shoot up the place just when the beleaguered sheriff — in this case President Obama — is trying to restore some semblance of civic order.

Hoyt Hilsman
Pasadena, Calif., May 5, 2009
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:43 AM
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1. I'm not sure the OK Corral is the best analogy.
There were just 2 sides there from what I remember. There are so many factions in the GOP that it would be more like a game of paintball in an enclosed area. There would be a brazillion different colors to use for the brazillion factions. Nobody would get the flag because they would be too busy taking each other out to worry about an overall objective. Everybody would look like a rainbow by the end.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 11:45 AM
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10. Paintball and the GOP. There are times I wish I were an editorial cartoonist.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:47 AM
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2. Every one of those letters did a great job in eviscerating Brooks
Just another NYT columnist with vacuous inanities that are easily skewered by any thoughful person with a handle on reality.

“the party of untrammeled freedom and maximum individual choice.” Right.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:55 AM
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5. I love this
The Republicans I grew up among believed in democratic capitalism, not a feudal society of gated communities for themselves served by an ill-housed, ill-nourished, ill-educated, un-doctored servant population.

They were veterans and had learned in war that everyone is expendable. They did not have utter contempt for working people. Even amid the social upheaval of the ’60s, they were not like the callous, precious, entitled people currently calling themselves “Republicans.”
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:04 AM
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6. It is great. In fact, better than the Brooks column it was commenting on.
If Republicans wanted to get some real insight into where they're going wrong, they would read those letters. They're probably too busy reading their daily Rush talking points, though. Does he allow them to read the NYT?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:02 PM
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12. They don't read criticism
You are with them or against them.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:19 AM
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8. VERY well written, correct and concise. The author should
have Brooks' job.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:02 PM
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11. For real
:fistbump:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:49 AM
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3. Not surprising that Brooks got taken down so thoroughly
One wonders why the Times ran such a shoddy bit of "journalism" in the first place.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:51 AM
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4. K&R. Great collection of responses to Brooks. Very succinct and
covers good range of GOP double-talk. I'll be copying and emailing this stuff out. Thank you very much.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:03 AM
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7. I was hoping someone would respond to Brooks' editorial...
Glad to see that Gary Hart got in his response. Brooks' article was simplistic and inane, in my opinion.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 11:33 AM
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9. K&R
:kick:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:05 PM
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13. This is why I neither read no watch Brooks' dishonest psuedo-intellectual antics
A waste of time- that will leave one either annoyed or misinformed. Or both.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:17 PM
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14. kickers. . . . . .. n/t
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