A 2012 Doomsday Scenario

[Stinky The Clown]

This is not an endorsement of anything. It is a look at a what-if. A Doomsday Scenario for 2012.

The American people were misread, mispolled, and misunderstood in 2006, when the Democrats came ROARING back to power. It was not simply the war in Iraq. It was every damned thing the repubicans had done.

When election season was over, the repubicans were pretty much in shambles. To be sure, those who were left were better and smarter than the Democrats at continuing to get what they wanted, but they were, indeed, fewer in number because, the PEOPLE wanted them gone. The PEOPLE wanted them punished for what they had and had not done.

As we are now in an economy that is likely worse than is being portrayed, an economy that is causing deep and elemental fears in the PEOPLE for their ability to maintain ... and for some, to simply survive, it is the wrong time to hope you can get by on instilling hope and not really giving anything.

One of the things THE PEOPLE all want - Harry and Louise and Rick Scott, and Max Baucus, and all the rest notwithstanding - is health care security.

Single payer is widely seen as a good thing and that view crosses party and ideological lines.

But what we have is a debate between the bipartisanists, who want everybody to be slightly happy and slightly pissed off, and the "fuck 'em" faction who only want the rich to get richer.

If some bullshit insurance plan, with buy-in mandates, is all that comes of this health care "reform", it is entirely possible that the people will be even more pissed. So pissed, that a Pied Piper like Ralph Nader (without the rumpled Old Guy smell) could come along and run solely on health care, and win.

Don't poo poo it. It absolutely can happen. The PEOPLE in this country are scared shitless and pissed the fuck off. That is not an electorate with patience. That is an electorate who is willing to say "we fucked up last time. We won't fuck up now."






Some of you might accuse me of pulling for a third party. Those who do would be dead-assed wrong. Health care is a CORE DEMOCRATIC PARTY VALUE and I am a (hard)core Democrat.

[redqueen]

1. I can defintely see that happening.

Very easily.

[phantom power]

2. I do not lay awake worrying about the next Ralph Nader...

I lay awake worrying about the next Adolph Hitler.

The last 8 years were, among other things, a chilling reminder about how easily people will fall prey to an authoritarian government when they're frightened of something.

[WeDidIt]

3. Definitely possible

This is where the rubber hits the road.

Healtchare hits everybody's bottom line and it's money that's talking to every last American.

So money talks, and bullshit takes a fucking hike.

[SoxFan]

4. "Single payer or I' ll throw a tantrum"

President Jindal thanks you wholeheartedly

[Stinky The Clown]

5. Do you have a point ......

.... apart from the one on your head?

You wanna disagree with me? Fine. Have at it. Let's talk. If not, you marginalize yourself ....... your move.

[glitch]

6. Damn straight Stinky.

And ignoring the potential won't make it go away (to the Jindahl poster).

[truedelphi]

7. Ditto with everyone that is agreeing with ya. We have to get it together and

Truly change our nation.


Pew Foundation said in 2008 that only 32% of all Americans consider themselves to be Dems. And only 28% consider themselves to be Repukes.

The rest of America is sick of both parties getting rich off the rest of us. Granted 2% are probably skinheads or John Birchers, but that leaves still a whopping 38% - And this fact of how the "middle" of middle America no longer toes the line for Corporate America is so scary for THEM that it is almost NEVER mentioned on the Big Screen TVs. The Powers that Be do not want to encourage us.

[hootinholler]

8. And one dude who could pull that off is Jesse Ventura. n/t