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Tue May-12-09 07:10 PM
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| If waterboarding wasn't torture and was A-OK..... |
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why didn't the former administration waterboard all of the detainees?
After all it was so effective and legal, why not get all the information from all the detainees in the most expedient fashion?
The answer is, because they knew waterboarding was way over the line and not a mere gray area.
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| Xipe Totec
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Tue May-12-09 07:22 PM
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| 1. Worse, they didn't know if it would work |
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They were experimenting...
On human beings.
Paging Dr Mengele, code blue on Enhanced Interrogation Dungeon 5A....
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Tue May-12-09 07:28 PM
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| 2. they believed it would work |
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would the party that acts contrary to science and promotes abstinence even think about FACTS?
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| Xipe Totec
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Tue May-12-09 07:30 PM
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| 3. The had faith on their side, |
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Just like the Holy Inquisition.
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Tue May-12-09 07:34 PM
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| 4. No, they believed they had God on their side |
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why settle for faith when you can have God
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| Traveling_Home
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Tue May-12-09 07:38 PM
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| 5. Can all the servicemen that .... |
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supposedly underwent waterboarding as part of survival training sue the US and also sue their torturers?
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Tue May-12-09 07:43 PM
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| 6. I think there are substantial limits on what the members |
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of the military can successfully sue their government over. And its likely that training by itself is not one of those things.
However, I believe that if the training was negligent and without appropriate level of care, it would be another matter entirely.
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Tue May-12-09 11:41 PM
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"if the training was negligent and without appropriate level of care, it would be another matter entirely"
It was TORTURE after all.....
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Wed May-13-09 06:36 PM
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| 10. if you cut someone open so their internal organs show, its torture |
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unless of course, this occurs in an operating room in the service of performing lifesaving medicine
when you train your military using these techniques, its with the explicit approval of the 'victim' under supervision, under controlled circumstances with emergency medical literally seconds away. Its not the same as doing it to a captive.
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| Eric J in MN
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Tue May-12-09 11:51 PM
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| 8. No. Volunteering for four days of training in case you're captured... |
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...and tortured isn't itself torture.
It's preparation.
Someone at the police academy who voluntarily gets tasered wasn't tortured. It's preparation.
Giving electrical shocks to a prisoner is torture.
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Tue May-12-09 11:52 PM
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| 9. Why can't congress water board people in the Bush |
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white house to get information from them? I mean it's not torture and it's legal.
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