Speaker of the House Pelosi-the following members of Democratic Underground support the creation of

[bobthedrummer]

an independent investigation of war crimes authorized by the George Walker Bush administration.

This would be consistent with The Executive Branch Accountability Act of 2008.

If clear evidence of authorization of war crimes were discovered indictments and prosecution should follow.

[RDANGELO]

1. Ok, here's one.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

147. AND ANOTHER

CAPS ADDED FOR EMPHASIS

[dweller]

2. in support

:thumbsup:


dp

[Voice for Peace]

3. here nt

[jwirr]

4. Absolutely.

[madeline_con]

5. Me, the undersigned...

agree. :patriot:

[opihimoimoi]

6. K&R #3...needs a couple more....

[NanceGreggs]

7. Count me in!

:patriot:

[Smarmie Doofus]

8. Sounds reasonable to me. nt

[BunkerHill24]

9. Co-signed

K & R :kick:

[Mythsaje]

10. And me

[MADem]

11. Sounds good to me. I don't care who fires up the inquiry, I think the inquiry needs to begin.

Call everyone listed in the Senate Report on Detainee Abuse to testify. Use the report as a model to start the questioning, and let's see where that takes us. Make sure you schedule Rumsfeld so he'll be fresh from his nap--we want him sharp when he has his say.

http://armed-services.senate.gov/Publications/Detainee%20Report%20Final_April%2022%202009.pdf

Here's that report--it's a doozy! Two hundred and sixty nine pages of pure INDICTABLE material.

[leftstreet]

12. K&R

[FLAprogressive]

13. Aye.

[Gregorian]

14. Only if actually independent. Is there anything that isn't politicized?

That is what scares me about so-called independent.

Otherwise, yes. With an added comment that bobthedrummer is one hell of a great person.

[ColbertWatcher]

15. Agreed. k+r, n/t

[glitch]

16. Absolutely. Investigations are to clear the innocent as well as indict the guilty. K & R nt

[Marr]

17. I don't see why an innocent politician in Pelosi's position would be against this.

She can exonerate herself and eviscerate her accusers. Assuming she isn't complicit, of course.

[Joanne98]

18. Me too

[Budgies Revenge]

19. I'm in! n/t

[Optical.Catalyst]

20. Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid, and Attorney General Holder could start a Special Prosecutor

If we could get just one Special Prosecutor to investigate the Bush Administration, it would open the flood gates for many more Special Prosecutors.

Please, oh please Democratic Leadership, give us this Special Prosecutor and a torture of prisoners investigation. We need it. The whole country needs it badly.

[justinaforjustice]

21. We Must Have Accountability, Not Impunity.

We need a Truth Commission and prosecution of those committing war crimes and violations of our Constitution and other laws.
Without it, the illegalities of the Bush-Cheney administration will inevitably be repeated.

[pleah]

22. K&R Present!

:hi: :patriot:

[Lugnut]

23. I'm in.

Let the chips falls where they may.

[RDANGELO]

24. Just one suggestion.

Call it an investigation of the conduct of the war. Calling it a war crimes investigation, sounds like we are presuming guilt.

[optimal-tomato]

25. Signed.

[azmouse]

26. Make it so.

[notadmblnd]

27. sounds like a reasonable request

[Caliman73]

28. Agreed

A nation of laws must abide by the rule of laws. If there is evidence that laws may have been broken it does not matter who the accused is, they must be investigated and if evidence exists, charged, and tried, and if convicted they must accept justice in accordance with the laws of this nation. We are not a dictatorship where the leader and their cronies can operate with no regard for the laws. We are not a monarchy where the head of state is deemed above the laws. We are a representatice democracy where laws are written as social contract between all citizens from the most affluent, to those merely subsisting. Every citizen is supposed to have equal value and responsibility to the laws. If we continue to allow a certain segment of our population to operate in a separate system than the average citizen, then we are not that nation of laws and honor that we brag about.

We need and demand these investigations and if they implicate and convict any or all of our leaders, then we need new leaders that will remember that they are elected to serve us and represent us.

[Wilms]

29. Agreed. n/t

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

30. present!

n/t

[patrice]

31. We will ***NOT*** Forget!!!

[UrbScotty]

32. UrbScotty. (nt)

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[bluesmail]

34. still here

[Wednesdays]

35. K&R

:kick:

[lostnotforgotten]

36. With Maximum Confirmation and Support You have My Unapologetic Backing

eom

[L. Coyote]

37. Prosecute Porter Goss for lying to Congress too! "We don't torture" 2005

When the Rs LIE, they forget what they testified to before Congress!
You can't have it both ways.

If Pelosi lied to us, Goss is liable for lying to Congress, a felony.
The IDIOTS don't even know how to LIE right! :rofl:

REC this: Will Porter Goss be prosecuted for lying to Congress?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5671623

"We don't torture"

On March 18, 2005, Reuters reported that Porter Goss "defended his spy agency's current interrogation practices but could not say all methods used as recently as last December conformed to U.S. law.

"U.S. officials do not view torture as a method for gaining vital intelligence, Goss said. But he acknowledged some CIA operatives may have been uncertain about approved interrogation techniques in the past."

Goss told the Senate Armed Services Committee "'The United States does not engage in or condone torture, ... I know for a fact that torture is not productive. That's not professional interrogation. We don't torture.'"

[cascadiance]

38. I'm in!

It should be called something like the "Future Democracy Protection Act" or something like that!

[hootinholler]

39. I would prefer a Grand Jury...

But any investigation is better than none. No wait a minute, any investigation with indictment powers is better than none.

-Hoot

[rschop]

40. Reply to Speaker of the House Pelosi

Pelosi has hosted herself on a petard of her own making. She and the rest of the US Congress had known that the CIA had lied to Congress for years, and let them get away with it with no retribution. The most obvious example of this are the attacks on 9/11. It is now clear from the record that the CIA knew about Mihdhar and Hazmi 21 months before September 11, 2001, but never gave this information to the FBI until August 23, 2001, when it was too late to find them. The congress even knew that at that point when this information was sent over to the FBI, that the CIA had then forced the shutdown of FBI investigations that could have found Mihdhar and Hazmi in time to prevent the attacks on 9/11, in effect intentionally allowing the attacks on 9/11 to take place that killed almost 3000 people. She and Congress then knew that the CIA then lied about this to hide their culpability in the attacks on 9/11, a fact that must have been an open secret in Washington DC for years. So now when the CIA has lied yet once again, she is stuck with the monster she and the test of the US Congress has created!

[livefreest]

41. amen! inquiry now, prosecution to follow.

[bvar22]

42. I don't trust Congress to hold a REAL investigation.

Too many Congress Critters have skin in this game.
Anything Congress does at this point will be a circus of diversion.

Besides, Congress can NOT prosecute.
ALL Congress can do (besides posturing for the cameras) is to determine whether crimes have been committed and then refer them to the AG.
There is already NO DOUBT that serious crimes have been committed.

I STAND with the ACLU in demanding the White House (AG Holder) quit delaying, and appoint an Independent Prosecutor immediately.
The ACLU has pointed out that the Statute of Limitations on some of the most serious offenses will expire this year. It is time to pull the Torturers into Federal Court NOW.

I will support a Congressional "Truth and Reconciliation Commission" only AFTER the Justice Department does its JOB.

[slay]

43. Right here!

Hello! :hi:

[pat_k]

44. Hear, Hear!

And since "clear evidence of authorization" is already public record, indictments are long past due.

[bobthedrummer]

45. You got it, pat_k

[annabanana]

46. ABSOLUTELY. . . . .. . .End.Of.Message.

[madokie]

47. You bet Bob, count me in

[Mira]

48. YES - one more voice - MINE K&R

[Bluzmann57]

49. K and R

And Pelosi should damn sure should demand some sort of "Truth Commission". It may or may not clear her, but it will damn sure not clear cheney and co. So bring it on.

[green917]

50. Duly Signed

We must have accountability Madame Speaker and the only way that's going to happen is if we finally know exactly what was done in our names, no matter how ugly! We must investigate these heinous crimes against humanity!

[Ticonderoga]

51. Investigate, Indict, convict, imprison the scallywags.

[Joe Bacon]

52. Add me!

Bush's impeachment should NEVER have been taken off the table!

[MilesColtrane]

53. Since she can't appoint a special prosecutor, I'll save my entreaty for the AG.

[bobthedrummer]

54. Congress can order an independent investigation anytime...

As a result of Watergate in 1978 the Independent Counsel process was amended to avoid Department of Justice conflicts, also it is part of the Oversight responsibility of Congress, MilesColtrane-plus look at all the remaining mess in DoJ that AG Holder is dealing with

[donheld]

55. .

:hi:

[centristgrandpa]

56. sooner than later....

Count me in on this wish list...

[orleans]

57. adding my name to the list. n/t

[Imalittleteapot]

58. Now!

[Horse with no Name]

59. As always...

Count me in.

[flvegan]

60. I'm in.

[ClayZ]

61. Me!

K and R

[proteus_lives]

62. I'll throw my hat in.

[webDude]

63. absolutely

[snot]

64. Yes.

[Still Sensible]

65. Absolutely. n/t

[DWilliamsamh]

66. And 1

Although I think it would be better if AG Holder appointed an independent prosecutor.

[spanone]

i'm in

[spanone]

67. i'm in

[geckosfeet]

68. Yes.

[Ilovevermont]

69. Investigation of war crimes of Bush administration

It is essential that we repudiate the lawless behavior of the
Bush bunch. This isn't about partisanship. Either we are
governed by laws that apply to everyone or we will continue
our descent into a culture of crime. What we do or fail to do
now sets a precedent for the future.

[glinda]

70. I have signed.

[DinahMoeHum]

71. Hand raised.

n/t

[Fiendish Thingy]

72. I may be speaking to the deaf in D.C., but count me in. n/t

[bridgit]

73. Mother Fucking DING! Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!! --- rec'd!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

74. OK. Agreed.

signed

[Gman2]

75. yup

[shadowknows69]

76. +1

[countmyvote4real]

77. I can go for that. It would be nice to have some verified facts. n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

78. Add me to your list.

[usregimechange]

79. Yesterday

[nadinbrzezinski]

80. Told them as much over the phone

:-)

[mike6640]

81. Aye n/t

[Sandrine for you]

82. Go take them !

[Riverman]

83. Yes, STop the Insanity of debating what is torture! Investigate

and where evidence is found, indict, prosecute and where convicted punish!

[Divine Discontent]

84. she's supposed to be the speaker for the people if I'm not mistaken - well, we want this! I agree!

send it to her. she shirks her duties if she doesn't.

[Lucian]

85. Aye.

[emlev]

86. And another.

[99th_Monkey]

87. Count me in. Otherwise, we abrogate any sense of justice and the rule of law. ~nt~

[Turborama]

88. Me too

:kick: & R

[suede1]

89. Agreed!

[democrank]

90. ~ Strongly in support ~

[OneAngryDemocrat]

91. Count me in!!!

-ditto-

[armyowalgreens]

92. Yay

[Chemisse]

93. Count me in

[Agony]

94. Agreed, Speaker Pelosi please proceed without delay.

As in... NOW! We have PLENTY of extra-carefully, lovingly, dried powder. Use it.

Please, for gods sake use it.

Just effing use it.

Sheesh.

[peace frog]

95. Right here, dude

Let's get this show on the road.

[fasttense]

96. Yes, I do support an investigation. n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

97. K& Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Jawja]

98. Amen.

:thumbsup:

[pam4water]

99. K & R She did save her self by investigating them. She should have known they

were going to smear her one way or another. She not a newbie to Washington.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

100. K&R... I'm losing faith.

[Demeter]

101. Absolutely!

[Jemmons]

102. Cant wait

[Mr. Ected]

103. Amen!

Speaker Pelosi, I hope you're listening.

[InfiniteThoughts]

104. a bipartisan investigation to understand what it takes for the US to never go down that path again

:patriot:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

105. Yes! wish I had a more proper user name

[Kitty Herder]

106. Yes, I support an independent investigation!

But it has to be truly independent.

[FraDon]

107. With all deliberate speed !

all deliberate speed.

[reflection]

108. k/r

[LWolf]

109. Yes. nt

[MissDeeds]

110. Count me in

About time! K&R

[scentopine]

111. absolutely!

[Soylent Brice]

112. K&R

[Infinite Hope]

113. ...as well as Pelosi and everyone else involved. n/t

[A wise Man]

114. I'm for that

100%

[snappyturtle]

115. K&R YES! nt

[90-percent]

116. NON PARTISAN COMMISSION

Because BIPARTISAN means it will be made of of the RULING ELITE, be it Democratic or Republican, and I think the two parties cover their asses and each other at this level.

No more tepid, compromising, we don't want to get anybody in trouble, 9-11 Commissions. This Commission agreed to testimony from Bush and Cheney TOGETHER AND NOT UNDER OATH. We now know it's challenging to get any truth out of Bush and Cheney even if they are indeed under Oath. I'll happily accept their imprisonment for merely lying under oath. Additional prosecution for murder and treason would just be icing on the cake. Hell, go the Capone route and imprison them for tax evasion!

More cover ups will produce more unconstitutional administrations!

These are not innocent mistakes. These are evil people who thought they had a license to kill and play God and defy all American and International Laws and Treaties. Prosecutions are the only way to hold these monsters to account for their treasons. Prosecutions will be the result of a Commission with no other agenda than to get at all the facts in these crimes! With Subpoena power besides!

-90% Jimmy

[blogslut]

117. Present

:hi:

[H2O Man]

118. H2O Man

[bfealk]

119. I support strongly

[shraby]

120. Time to get it all out in the open! Count me in. n/t

[FailureToCommunicate]

121. Yes! Madame Speaker, face your children and grandchildren with a clear conscience...

that you did the right thing when History called upon you.

[lakeguy]

122. +1

[Raksha]

123. Count me in!!!

[AllyCat]

124. Aye!

[blm]

125. Accountability.....Republicans equate it with ponies and rainbows. Citizens call it a necessity

for a democracy.

[km1550]

126. GO!!!

Let's get moving on this. The time is NOW!!!!

[sinkingfeeling]

127. Signed.

[Dr.Phool]

128. 2 votes

Me and wife.

[oxymoron]

129. Signed (nt)

[florida08]

130. I support

Madam Speaker Pelosi

[swilton]

131. Count me in

We have more than enough for an investigation - prosecutions are in order. Bring em on!!!:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[solara]

132. Absolutely

Amen. Long overdue. Make it So. So Be It. Unequivocally. Completely.

Please.




:patriot:

[rfranklin]

133. I support criminal prosecution by either the U.S. or...

the Wrold Court. This must be addressed as a crime against humanity.

[orbitalman]

134. DEFINATELY n/t

[Greybnk48]

135. Add my name to the list n/t

[asjr]

136. I'm on board!

[Raster]

137. Absolutely!

Investigate, Indict, Incarcerate!:kick:

[lsewpershad]

138. I'm with you

[redqueen]

139. Yes, this needs to happen.

They all know it. It's only a matter of time.

[secondwind]

140. thumbs up!! In full support!!

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

141. So say we

[Beam Me Up]

142. you betcha

[Doremus]

143. Yes.

[RaleighNCDUer]

144. kick for my vote nt

[Sedona]

145. Me 145

.

[Liberal_Dog]

146. A No Doubter

nt

[robinlynne]

148. sign me on.

[Pacifist Patriot]

149. Fair enough, and the absolute least that should be done

[woofless]

150. Woof

[nc4bo]

151. Yes. nt

[bobthedrummer]

152. Who else is with US?

[Lars39]

153. Yes.

[midnight]

154. Isn't it a war crime to attack a country for a lie?

[Vinca]

155. Count me in.