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Thu May-21-09 02:13 AM
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What's really sad is that Jesse Ventura is more aggressive and articulate in his defense of Obama |
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and in his denunciation of DUH-bya, Elmer and Kind-of-sleezy lice than any of our Senators and Congresspersons are.
Ventura has gone on at least 3 shows this week and shredded the conservatives.
He made hasselback look totally clueless on the View.
Hannity tried sucking up to Ventura as the show began and it made no difference Ventura slammed Bush, laughed at Hannity's attempts at saying the country is better off now than it was 8 years ago, etc.
On Fox and Friends I think he made them all cry
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Thu May-21-09 02:14 AM
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Thu May-21-09 02:15 AM
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Thu May-21-09 02:16 AM
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3. I would expect the Democrats in congress to be more aggressive in defense of the President |
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Thu May-21-09 02:22 AM
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5. most were not aggressive regarding criticizing bush so why expect them to |
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be aggressive defending obama?
(sorry--just cynical)
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Thu May-21-09 02:24 AM
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Thu May-21-09 02:45 AM
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10. it's "sad" as in "it's a sad commentary on the lack of fighting spirit inside this party". |
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A Democratic Congress sabotaged some of Jimmy Carter's most important proposals(we could have had universal health care in 1978 if they hadn't wimped out and we could have had a welfare policy that kept families together by allowing two-parent households to get public assistance, and we could have had a Consumer Protection Agency that would have made us all much safer from rip-offs)and they sabotaged Bill Clinton(not getting behind his healthcare proposal even when they KNEW that not passing it would cost us both houses in '94).
It's time for these guys to fight as hard for OUR party as the GOP Congressmembers fight for theirs. Those guys work for horrible stuff, but they get it passed because they don't give up. We could learn from that(not on the passing horrible stuff part, the not giving up part).
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Thu May-21-09 03:42 AM
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I believe it will be a Democratic Congress that sabotages Obama.
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Thu May-21-09 07:27 AM
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17. It's sad that our representatives in Congress |
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are mostly all too spineless to say what needs to be said. It gets left to a republican ex pro wrestler.
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Thu May-21-09 10:07 AM
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20. Franken wont be spineless, if he's ever seated. |
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Thu May-21-09 07:22 PM
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He became very careful after he decided to run.
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Thu May-21-09 02:22 AM
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4. I only heard him once, but he wasn't defending Obama; he was defending the Constitution. |
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Thu May-21-09 02:24 AM
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6. In his interview with Hannity |
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He referenced the mess that he had been left with courtesy of the worst President ever.
That he was showing a lot smarts and seemed to be getting a grasp on how to do a task this large
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Thu May-21-09 02:28 AM
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8. I can't remember where I heard him or to whom he was talking, |
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but he was kicking some Puke ass from the perspective of his military experience. The guy talks like a real American and I would trade him for many if not most Dems.
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Thu May-21-09 02:31 AM
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9. The crux of the matter is this.. |
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Democrats simply lack aggressiveness, particularly when it comes to matters of national security, if a Repub just looks at them harshly they roll over, show their bellies and piss all over themselves with fear.
Ventura does not give a flying fuck what anyone else thinks or says and his lack of fear is palpable when compared to practically any Dem I can think of active in politics today with the exceptions of Kucinich and to a lesser extent Obama.
Jesse is also not part of the bought and paid for corporatarchic duopoly so he is free to call 'em like he sees 'em, again with the exception of Kucinich and to a lesser extent Obama the Dems apparently cannot.
The Dems strike me very much like a military unit that is in a combat situation where they have very restrictive Rules Of Engagement, they simply cannot strike back even when fired upon except in certain very limited and mostly ineffective ways. Jesse has *no* ROE so he says exactly what he thinks and his words have a great deal of power for that very reason.
I think Americans hunger for authenticity in their politicians, Jesse is nothing if not authentic so he stands out like a shining beacon among the crowds of inauthentic other pols.
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Thu May-21-09 03:45 AM
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12. He made Brian on FOX get up and leave almost in tears..what a punk |
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Thu May-21-09 04:35 AM
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13. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM ON BILL O'LIELY |
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Thu May-21-09 05:24 AM
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14. Jesse isn't a member of the moderate democrat corptocracy |
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Thu May-21-09 05:38 AM
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15. Jesse the "Body" is moderate!? LOL! Jesse the Ego is part of Hollywood's Secret ... |
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Edited on Thu May-21-09 05:42 AM by ColbertWatcher
... libertarian sect.
He's no liberal or a democrat either.
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Thu May-21-09 07:04 AM
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Yea you can tell hes not a democrat because he actually says something, while the Corporate Democrats dont want to change anything fundemantal about the Bush years.
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Thu May-21-09 07:29 AM
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We have the most weasily, spineless people in the Democratic party.
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Thu May-21-09 02:06 PM
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22. Granted he does say a lot of things. |
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Whether he actually does anything is a different story altogether.
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Thu May-21-09 08:06 AM
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Depending on the situation, different people will have more impact than others. People like Ventura will resonate better with his support because he's not a true Leftie. On the other hand, the Lefties are wise at this juncture, when Obama's polls are already high, to give him a critical review. When Obama starts getting seriously bombarded by the other side, we will all come together to defend him, and no one can complain that we were dittoheads.
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Thu May-21-09 07:37 PM
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24. Also on Stern this week. |
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Tearing into the junta & 9/11.
Jesse has some interesting ideas. Unfortunately, he now lives in Mexico.
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