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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:10 PM
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For the Record, Mr Bush.
Today during a Press briefing Bush said: "If Congress fails to act in the next few weeks, it will have significant consequences for our men and women in the Armed Forces."

He listed these "significant consequences":

1 - "the Army will be forced to consider cutting back on equipment,equipment repair,and quality of life initiatives for our Guard and reserve forces."


2 - "The Army also would be forced to consider curtailing some training for Guard and reserve units here at home. This would reduce their readiness and could delay their availability to mobilize for missions in Afghanistan and Iraq"


3 - "They will also have to consider delaying or curtailing the training of some active duty forces, reducing the availability of these forces to deploy overseas. If this happens, some of the forces now deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq may need to be extended because other units are not ready to take their places."

4 - "In a letter to Congress, Army Chief of Staff General Pete Schoomaker put it this way: "Without approval of the supplemental funds in April, we will be forced to take increasingly draconian measures, which will impact Army readiness and impose hardships on our soldiers and their families." "


Fact: The lack of equipment has been a constant problem in Afghanistan and Iraq from the very beginning. The level of readiness due to a lack of equipment and training has been a constant problem in both Iraq and Afghanistan from the very beginning. The National Guard and the Reserves have both gone without "quality of life initiatives", as well as a lack of equipment and training since the very beginning of Bush's wars. All the troops have faced a lack of health care - both for their physical and their mental needs. Pay issues have been a constant problem as well.

Corners Cut in Rush to Add Troops

"A survey conducted by the Defense Department Inspector General's Office last spring found that U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan lack sufficient armored vehicles, heavy weapons such as artillery or large machine guns, devices designed to jam signals used to detonate roadside bombs, and communications equipment. As a result, they are sometimes forced to put off operations while they wait for equipment, according to the classified report, a summary of which the Defense Department made public on Tuesday.

Instead of the newer, better-protected humvees, for example, the 1st Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division, based at Fort Stewart, Ga., will use the older version of heavily armored humvees left behind by the 1st Armor Division, said Lt. Col. Doug Crissman, commander of the brigade's 2-7 infantry battalion. Ortiz said such protracted use increases the wear and tear on the vehicles and makes them more likely to break down. More troubling, the armor on these older humvees is increasingly unable to withstand the blast of the ever-more powerful bombs employed by insurgents, say military experts."



Thousands of Army Humvees Lack Armor Upgrade

"U.S. Army units in Iraq and Afghanistan lack more than 4,000 of the latest Humvee armor kit, known as FRAG Kit 5, according to U.S. officials.


2006 - Inadequate Equipment, Health Problems Face Iraq, Afghanistan Veterans: Poll


"The poll by VoteVets.org, a political action committee made up of veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, showed that nearly half (42 percent) of all veterans who served in either country felt that their equipment did not meet military standards."


2005 - Marine units found to lack equipment


"Marine Corps units fighting in some of the most dangerous terrain in Iraq don't have enough weapons, communications gear, or properly outfitted vehicles, according to an investigation by the Marine Corps' inspector general provided to Congress yesterday."


2004 - Guardsmen's Families Protest Lack of Equipment


"The issue came into the media spotlight again last week, when a Tennessee guardsman in Kuwait asked Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld why soldiers have to pick through trash to create armor for their humvees. Rumsfeld's response, "You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have." "


2004 - GIs Lack Armor, Radios, Bullets

"With a $400 billion defense budget you might think U.S. troops have everything they need to fight the war, but that's not always the case."



2003 - Stretched Thin, Lied to & Mistreated

"Added to such injury is insult: The military treats these soldiers like unwanted stepchildren. This unit's rifles are retooled hand-me-downs from Vietnam. They have inadequate radio gear, so they buy their own unencrypted Motorola walkie-talkies. The same goes for flashlights, knives and some components for night-vision sights. The low-performance Iraqi air-conditioners and fans, as well as the one satellite phone and payment cards shared by the whole company for calling home, were also purchased out of pocket from civilian suppliers.

Bottled water rations are kept to two liters a day. After that the guys drink from "water buffaloes"--big, hot chlorination tanks that turn the amoeba-infested dreck from the local taps into something like swimming-pool water. Mix this with powdered Gatorade and you can wash down a famously bad MRE (Meal Ready to Eat)."


SOTU: Bush Has Failed To Support The Troops


"The New York Times reported that a “secret Pentagon study has found that as many as 80 percent of the marines who have been killed in Iraq from wounds to the upper body could have survived if they had had extra body armor.” Body armor “has been available since 2003, but until recently the Pentagon has largely declined to supply it to troops despite calls from the field.” "

"The Penatgon is proposing to “triple some Tricare insurance costs for military retirees and their families.” “Increases would be substantial — as much as $1,200 more a year by 2009 — with no end in sight because the plan calls for annual rate hikes in 2010 and beyond that would match inflation.”"

"“US soldiers returning home from tours in Iraq, meanwhile are initially showing a higher incidence of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) than in other American conflicts. Around 317,000 veterans who received a primary or secondary diagnosis of PTSD were treated at medical centers” run by the Department of Veterans Affairs. “Experts say the sharp increase does not begin to factor in the potential impact of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.” The Bush administration has consistently underestimated the level of resources needed."


2003 - SDF to supply water to U.S. troops, citizens in Iraq

"U.S. soldiers are given two 1.5-liter bottles of water a day, but that is just barely the essential amount."



Memo: Halliburton failed to purify GIs’ water


"Halliburton Co. failed to protect the water supply it is paid to purify for U.S. soldiers throughout Iraq, in one instance missing contamination that could have caused “mass sickness or death,” an internal company report concluded."



2003 - Under Fire, Army Reserve and National Guard Troops Lack Body Armor

"Army Reserve and National Guard troops getting shot at in Iraq sometimes wait for new bulletproof body armor while active duty Army soldiers get it first, according to Reserve and Guard soldiers."



Army Units Forgo Desert Training

"Rushed by President Bush's decision to reinforce Baghdad with thousands more U.S. troops, two Army combat brigades are skipping their usual session at the Army's premier training range in California and instead are making final preparations at their home bases."




Army overhaul prompts new approach to training

"This fast turnaround gives its leaders barely more than a year to reconstitute equipment, retrain units that have experienced more than 60 percent turnover in personnel in some instances, and prepare to redeploy

The stresses imposed by war and change, along with the compressed training cycles dictated by repeated combat deployments with minimal downtime, have fundamentally altered Army training doctrine."

National Guard Dealing with Equipment Shortages

"That's because up to 40 percent of the Guard's equipment is in Iraq. According to the National Guard Bureau, that leaves 88 percent of the force here poorly equipped.

The Army has set aside $21 billion over the next four years for new equipment, but much of that could also wind up going to Iraq as part of the (Bush's) surge."


Field rations letting U.S. troops down


"When Lt. Dave Moore visited infantry units in the remote, rugged mountains of Afghanistan late last year, the Navy medical officer was surprised to hear from many soldiers and Marines that they had lost significant weight.

After conducting more than 150 interviews with medics, officers and troops on the ground, Moore concluded that the portable rations called "Meals, Ready-to-Eat"--long derided by troops, but valued by the Pentagon for their indestructibility--were not doing the job, causing the soldiers to shed pounds that they very much needed."


Military Mental Health Care Under Scrutiny

"Army generals are scrambling to apologize for the scandal over poor medical care and deplorable conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C. But the evidence shows that the problems extend beyond the Army's flagship hospital.

Late last year, for instance, an NPR investigation found that many soldiers who returned from Iraq to Fort Carson, in Colorado, couldn't get the mental health care they needed — even when they had post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD. In fact, their supervisors punished them and kicked them out of the Army"



Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility


"Behind the door of Army Spec. Jeremy Duncan's room, part of the wall is torn and hangs in the air, weighted down with black mold. When the wounded combat engineer stands in his shower and looks up, he can see the bathtub on the floor above through a rotted hole. The entire building, constructed between the world wars, often smells like greasy carry-out. Signs of neglect are everywhere: mouse droppings, belly-up cockroaches, stained carpets, cheap mattresses.

This is the world of Building 18, not the kind of place where Duncan expected to recover when he was evacuated to Walter Reed Army Medical Center from Iraq last February with a broken neck and a shredded left ear, nearly dead from blood loss. But the old lodge, just outside the gates of the hospital and five miles up the road from the White House, has housed hundreds of maimed soldiers recuperating from injuries suffered in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan."



Walter Reed patients told to keep quiet

"They were also told they would be moving out of Building 18 to Building 14 within the next couple of weeks. Building 14 is a barracks that houses the administrative offices for the Medical Hold Unit and was renovated in 2006. It’s also located on the Walter Reed Campus, where reporters must be escorted by public affairs personnel. Building 18 is located just off campus and is easy to access"




The above examples are just a small sampling of the neglect and abuse the troops have endured.


For the record, Mr. Bush, exactly when have the troops ever been fully funded for your wars of choice?

You support the troops?

When exactly?








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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:12 PM
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1. K&R!
Great talking points for all my freeper friends....thanks for the post.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:27 PM
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13. Thanks,durtee librul!
His BS about defunding the troops has been chapping my bottom for a while now.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:12 PM
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2. Excellent post, Solly Mack.
This needed to be said, and I'm glad you included links to the facts to back it up... :yourock: K&R.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:27 PM
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14. Thank you,Cabcere!
:hug:
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:33 PM
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24. No, thank *you!*
:D And :hug: right back at ya. :hi:

:kick:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:13 PM
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3. k&r
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:28 PM
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15. Hey Swamp!
:)
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:14 PM
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4. That ability to link like that - I am awe struck.
In fact I am "shocked and awed".

Nice post!

Joe
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:29 PM
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16. Hi Joe
Thanks
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:32 PM
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22. You did a good job Solly -
More correct than you may know.

Anyway -I am "Shocked and awed"

It was good and heart warming.

Joe
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:42 PM
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35. I live on an army post...I'm more than aware of just how the troops
have been treated by Bush.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:47 PM
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37. I knew you understood.
You couldn't have made that post and not understood.

Joe
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:01 PM
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42. It's a keeper for me.
Bookmarked it for future debate reference tool.

Great post Solly Mack... :toast:
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:05 PM
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43. You should -
It is good.

Joe
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:07 PM
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44. Thanks, liberalnurse!
:hi:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:16 PM
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5. Outstanding post.
Nomination #5.

Thank you for this fantastic post.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:29 PM
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17. Hey Waterman
Thanks!

That man just rubbed me the wrong way today - more so than usual.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:10 PM
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45. Yes.
I found his display of foolishness to be more toxic than usual today.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:16 PM
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6. K&R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:30 PM
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18. Thank you, CrazyOrangeCat!!
Love your name :)
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:52 PM
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38. Thanks! I really do have a crazy orange cat . . .
. . . eight years old, and she still chases her tail in the bathtub! And catches pigeons! Trippiest cat in the 'hood! ;)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:55 PM
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40. We had an orange tabby years ago - growing up
She was a hoot!

I love cats. :)

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:20 PM
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46. There's a young CrazyOrangeCat who has found a second home on my front porch
Cat's really dig my place. We have lots of trees, squirrels, and bugs for the cats to play with. Before Katrina we had an old CrazyOrangeCat that hung out here, but I haven't seen him since the storm. The young CrazyOrangeCat seems to have taken his place. :D

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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:44 PM
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50. Your porch sounds like a very fine sanctuary . . .
. . . for young Orange.

:hi:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:20 PM
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7. Bookmarked and Recommended.
Very fine work. Thank you.


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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:22 PM
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9. same here n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:31 PM
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20. Thanks, Martin Eden!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:31 PM
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19. Thanks, understandinglife!
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:21 PM
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8. Great post Solly Mack
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:32 PM
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21. Much appreciated, Vexatious Ape!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:22 PM
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10. Apparently, he didn't get the email
or memo. I'd love to send him this one....but I won't. But then...he sure needs it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:33 PM
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25. It probably went to his WH email account, so he didn't read it
Now if it had gone to his RNC account...

:)

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:24 PM
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11. Great Post....the man is truly insane.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:35 PM
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26. Hey spanone!
He's so far beyond lala land, he's lost
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:24 PM
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12. Bookmarked! Great resource; thanks, Solly Mack! Rec'd. nt
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 06:24 PM by babylonsister
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:36 PM
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27. Thank you, babylonsister!!
:hi:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:32 PM
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23. Bush supports the troops?
Only to use them for personal gain and huge greedy profits for his cronies

:(
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:36 PM
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29. Precisely
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:44 PM
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36. Great links, thanks for the compilation
in one place for bookmarking
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:36 PM
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28. All true, but now he thinks he found somebody to blame it on
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:37 PM
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30. Yep...that's exactly what he is trying to do
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:37 PM
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31. Unfortunately that is more reading than he does in a month
And more effort on your part than his entire presidency.

The king is naked and everybody knows it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:39 PM
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33. Sadly, you speak the truth
but I had to do it anyway. :)
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:38 PM
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32. BAMMM!!! Excellent research and post....
I love it when the rebuttal is so organized and reinforced with links. I know this takes much work, patience and dedication.

You done us proud Solly Mack!

big K&R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:40 PM
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34. Awwww...Thanks, hwmnbn!!!!
:blush:
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:55 PM
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39. Great post, Solly Mack
It's been obvious to most of us for a long time that Bush cares nothing about the troops, except to use them as an excuse to suck up money that goes, instead, to Halliburton, and other cronies. I've been reading about how difficult it is for men and women disabled because of this war to get approval for disability ratings.

Bush, like the other neo-cons, is nothing but slime. I want the troops home, safe with their families. Funding the war equals to more senseless slaughter on both sides. Bush cares absolutely nothing about average Americans. If your net worth isn't in the mid-range of seven figures, he doesn't care about you. Even then, he only cares if you donate heavily to the Republic party.

For Bush and Cheney to resign tomorrow would still be longer than I would like. They have succeeded in destroying our country. We knew Bush could destroy any company he was connected with, but even I didn't realize that he would be able to destroy whole countries. Lucifer must be proud of his offspring.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:00 PM
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41. Hi, ninkasi. Thanks!
And we can all well expect for money to go to his cronies before the troops ...and Bush will see to it that the Pentagon/DoD cuts more services and then blame others for causing it...and he'll do this just because he can and just to make a point.


It will be Bush that does it. No one else.


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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:26 PM
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47. Gee Solly Mack,
A coherent rant, organized thoughts, facts and not fiction, links instead of straw men? What are you....some kind of liberal democrat?

A great one! K&R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:30 PM
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48. Hi, brer cat! I'm just a ticked off military wife with little patience
for Bush's lies.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:36 PM
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49. If Bush chooses to *ignore the will of the American people*.
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 07:36 PM by Marr
It's amazing that he can already be trying to put the blame on the Democrats, when the fool hasn't even vetoed their completely legitimate spending bill yet. If he wants a budget, he's got one- all he needs to do is recognize that he is not a king, and he cannot have everything he wants when the country is against him.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:46 PM
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52. He's always looking to blame others
when he has no one but himself to blame.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:46 PM
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51. Awesome post!!!
:kick:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:50 PM
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53. Thanks, wicket!!
:hi:
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:13 PM
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54. Bush lies more than a dead dog.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:14 PM
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55. Yeah he does
lol

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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:25 PM
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56. January 21, 2009
Great post, Solly.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:31 PM
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58. Thanks, Olney Blue
:hi:
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:30 PM
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57. Every sentence in *'s speech today
could be similarly demolished - thoroughly and in great detail. Why does anyone in this country continue to pretend that what * says makes any sense or deserves any creedance whatsoever?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:33 PM
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60. Yeah but I didn't have that much time :)
I have no idea why people pretend the man isn't a liar....well, some do benefit from his lies.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:36 PM
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64. If no one listens to the screaming chimp... is it sound?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:32 PM
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59. Great post
Nail that liar with facts.

K & R.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:33 PM
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61. Hiya malaise!
Thanks!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:56 PM
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67. Howdy!
You're welcome.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:34 PM
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62. Details, merely details, just blips on the larger picture. Thanks for the gathering of info. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:36 PM
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63. Hey uppity
Damn details

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:37 PM
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65. Excellent post, Solly!
You're absolutely right. When I heard Bush today (and in his past few hissy fits), I was practically screaming at the TV. Trying to act so high and mighty, when our military has been fucked over ever since the beginning of the wars in Afghanistan AND Iraq. Who was in charge? Who loves to call himself the Commander in Chief? It's not Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi. It's President Pissy Pants, and it offends me greatly to listen to his bullshit on this. IT'S NOT THE DEMS FAULT, YOU FUCKING ASSHAT (BUSH); IT'S YOU!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:38 PM
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66. Hey SeattleGirl!
Thanks!

and on top of all of that - Bush lied to get them into this mess

and he wants to people to believe he cares? Sick, sick man.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:05 PM
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68. Talk about an easy post to kick and recommend!
Damn.

Remind me to stay on your good side. :)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:23 AM
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78. LOL! Thanks, Forkboy!
;)
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:06 PM
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69. When has the Emergency funding gone anywhere but straight into Halliburton's coffers?
Great collection Solly!

This should top the greatest.

-Hoot
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:26 AM
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79. Exactly! Same place the money has always gone to primarily
to contractors and who knows where else...

Money has just gone *poof* with no accounting for it.

Thanks, Hoot!!!
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:10 PM
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70. kicking this again
:) :kick:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:33 PM
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71. Great arguments and compilation of information
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:27 AM
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80. Thank you, TforC
:hi:
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:35 PM
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72. Is that because all the money.....
is going to Blackwater and Haliburton?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:28 AM
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81. and who knows where else - don't forget all those billions
they still can't account for
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:43 PM
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73. Awesome resource tool!!! Where the hell did the $400 BILLION go?
How can that be inadequate to supply, protect and take care of our troops?

I just do NOT freakin' get it!!! FOUR HUNDRED B-I-L-L-I-O-N DOLLARS!!!

damn,...entire continents could practically be bought for that,...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:29 AM
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82. Exactly! And more money since then
Where did it go?

To the "troops"?

If it went to the troops, then why all the shortages from the word go?
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:47 PM
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74. The only person "playing politics" with the troops is BUSH.
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 10:48 PM by file83
I couldn't believe it when I heard him make that accusation against the Dems.

If the funding gets cut, then the AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. If Bush gives 1 oz of shit for our troops then he'll wrap up the "war" (occupation) and bring them home.

But Bush couldn't care fucking less for the troops, so he'll leave them there to rot because that's just the kind of political games he's ready to play.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:33 AM
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84. Bush sent them to war for lies. Sent them without proper anything
and the troops have been going without from the word invade - and yet he dares accuse anyone of playing politics? Unreal!

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:21 PM
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75. I believe halliburton has a few trillion left over from our "supporting the troops".
I don't believe they returned that money yet, now did they?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:35 AM
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85. no kidding! You'd think a President that cared so much would
get that money back...and send the guilty to prison.
Alas...

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:27 PM
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76. George Walker Bush so far has spent TRILLIONS on the military
over the past two terms BUT where did it all go? WHERE? Can't cut the lawns on bases or provide armor for the humvees? Why is that Mr. Bush?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:37 AM
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86. Rex - that is the trillion dollar question
Where did it ALL go?

And we've already been informed of some more services that will be reduced...and this in the last few days

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:40 PM
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77. Great post! Mr. Bush can't we just get some of that stolen money back from Haliburton?
:hi:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:39 AM
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87. Hey, mzmolly!
Bush would rather hurt the troops some more (and the whole of America) than to ever ask his cronies to stop ripping the government off....because we know ripping the government off was on Bush's agenda to begin with

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 12:56 PM
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103. Hey Solly!
:hi: I agree with you.

I think we ought to use this line of reasoning as a talking point somehow if need be, what says you?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:33 AM
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83. i have also read that the troops ran out of bullets for their guns..
Edited on Wed Apr-04-07 02:52 AM by flyarm
sorry i do not have the link but i am sure you can find it in google!

fly
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:44 AM
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88. During training, some soldiers were forced to train with
3 bullets...because there wasn't enough bullets.

3 shot practice - that was it.

So Bush sends troops off to a war for lies without the proper equipment and then accuses others of not supporting the troops.


He sent them without getting medical facilities up to speed and while cutting veteran benefits.


Bush's wars have been one big lie from start to eventual finish, with the American/Iraqi people and the troops being used as pawns.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:51 AM
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89. K&R
Great Post!

:applause:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 04:41 AM
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90. Thanks, ClayZ!!
:)
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 06:36 AM
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91. EXCELLENT!
Will bookmark for future reference.

My sincere thanks for you time and effort on this awesome post.
:kick:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:09 AM
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96. You're welcome,liberalla
and Thank you!!
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 06:47 AM
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92. Rest assured Mr. Bush ...
Congress will not fail to act.
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:58 AM
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93. What an excellent post!!
:kick: :yourock:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:11 AM
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97. Thank you, kiteinthewind!
:hi:
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La_Fourmi_Rouge Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:12 AM
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94. Dude, you just blew my mind...
I was listening to that presser and the cognitive dissonance was making my head hurt. This post puts into words the thoughts that were frying my synapses. Thanks!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:19 AM
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98. Welcome!
I started rounding up my links just after the presser. I was fairly bursting during the presser - all the lies that just kept pouring out of his mouth.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:37 AM
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95. It is because of people like you that the Democrats will ultimately prevail.
It is because of people like you that our troops will finally receive the ultimate respect and support ... to come home, and to be cared for.

My other hope is that the Iraqis who have been devastated by this war will continue to receive support so they can find common ground to emerge from their civil war and be a strong united country which eventually prospers in peace.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:21 AM
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99. Thanks, Straight Shooter!
I want everyone harmed in any way by Bush to get all the help they need...and I want Bush to get everything he so rightly deserves.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:25 AM
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100. What a great post!
Edited on Wed Apr-04-07 10:27 AM by 11 Bravo
Bush appeals to the mindset which believes that slapping another magnetic ribbon on the old SUV is all the support the troops need. Beautifully said and nicely documented, Solly Mack!

on edit: K&R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:55 AM
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101. Thanks, 11Bravo!
:hi:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:58 AM
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102. K&R #80
lot's of important info there. thanks!

bookmarked
dp
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:10 PM
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106. Welcome, dweller! and Thank you
:hi:
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 01:01 PM
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104. Somebody needs to muzzle the dumb bastard...
Why are we so powerless to stop this miserable failure of a president? It just flabbergasts me.




UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:11 PM
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107. Hi tenaciousradical
"UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!" <~~~ I agree
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:52 PM
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105. Quality of life?? A ten month turn-around back to Iraq is "quality of life?"
Edited on Wed Apr-04-07 02:53 PM by lebkuchen
Bush has as much right to talk about "quality of life" as he does democracy, family values, morals, decency, character, education, health care, peace, religion, the environment and fiscal responsibility.

In short, if he kept his mouth shut, he'd be in safe territory.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:12 PM
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108. Amazing what comes out of his mouth
when pretzels going in his mouth would serve us better
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