THEY ARE NOT FUCKING "PRO LIFE"

[Horse with no Name]

THEY ARE A BUNCH OF HATE-FILLED MAGGOTS THAT WANT TO CONTROL WOMEN'S BODIES.
THEY HATE GAYS.
THEY LOVE WARS.
THEY LOVE THE DEATH PENALTY.
I AM SO FUCKING TIRED OF HEARING THAT THEY ARE PRO-LIFE.
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST PERSON THAT THESE EXTREMISTS HAVE KILLED.
THEY HAVE KILLED ABORTION PROVIDERS.
THEY HAVE KILLED THOSE THAT SOUGHT ABORTIONS.
THEY HAVE KILLED GAY PEOPLE.
THEY KILL WHAT THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH.
THAT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL DEFINITION OF TERRORIST.

LET'S CALL THEM OUT FOR WHAT THEY ARE BUT WHATEVER THAT NEW TERM IS, IT SIMPLY IS NOT "PRO LIFE"!

Sorry for the caps.

[DinahMoeHum]

1. How about "PRE-Life" ??

n/t

[Triana]

2. Bwah! There ya go. Perfect. n/t

[tularetom]

3. If they want to be pro anything they are pro fetus

But what they really are is anti choice.

They are pro big government interference in people's private lives. They must be libruls.

[seabeyond]

5. they are not even pro fetus cause they are not for taking care of the health of mother

that carries the fetus, if mother cannot afford it

[Richard D]

6. Exactly

We really must stop using the term "pro-life" for the anti-choice maggots.

[tavalon]

31. Naw, the fetus is merely the vehicle for punishing the godless whores who have sex

[seabeyond]

4. they are NOT pro life and i refuse to use that, just casue they insist. they are anti abortion

and we are not pro abortion. i dont agree with abortion. but i am pro choice

the right is very good and consistent chalnging lanuguage to manipulate and control. i do not understand why people allow it. just makes the people such sheep. but i do not, cannot use pro life. just isnt true

they are

anti abortion

[Richard D]

7. In my mind

It's pro-choice and anti-choice. Maybe even something stronger.

[seabeyond]

9. i like anti choice. you are right. n/t

[tpsbmam]

28. That's what I use -- pro- and anti-choice. I NEVER say "pro-life" -- I'm pro-life!

But I'm also pro-choice. And I'm against the death penalty, against off of these inane wars (but acknowledge that some have been justified), I've never even hit another human being.....THAT is pro-life.

[redqueen]

8. They're anti-choice. (nt)

[sakabatou]

13. They're ANTI-WOMAN

Plain and simple.

[area51]

10. I hear you.

If they were really pro-life, they'd be in the healthcare profession, helping people. If they were really pro-life, they'd be on the forefront of the fight for single-payer healthcare.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

11. CALL THEM AS THEY ARE.... TERRORISTS

RIGHT ON DUDE

[bdamomma]

12. they are sick and a menace to society.

they are our homegrown terrorists/christian taliban.

[Arkana]

14. Anti-choice.

If we are pro-choice, let's reframe the debate on our terms. Cast them as anti-free will, anti-reproductive rights, and even anti-mothers--they obviously hate mothers since they're so willing to sacrifice them for shapeless balls of cells.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

15. "They/them"

The single most inflammatory word in the English language.

[GeorgeGist]

16. Simpler still,

they are anti-Socialists who want victims.

[Hawkowl]

17. Death Eaters

They truly enjoy and require the killing of living beings.

[salguine]

18. They're pro-BIRTH. That's sacrosanct. They're all about protecting someone

up until the moment they're born...Once they pop out, if they're not rich, white, Christian, straight, or in any way need healthcare, day-care, schooling, or anything else, they can go fuck themselves.

Then these same people calling themselves "pro-life" get an Olympic-size boner whenever we start dropping bombs on brown people, and can't seem to execute people fast enough.

Pro-birth. Only.

[tavalon]

32. Sorry, I must disagree

They pretend to be pro-birth but they see the fetus as the punisher of the mother.

[Wednesdays]

19. K&R

:kick:

[SalviaBlue]

20. No they are not.

Thank you for shouting it. It needs to be shouted.

recommended

[DemReadingDU]

21. EXACTLY, n/t

[D23MIURG23]

22. They are fascists.

Anti-freedom, anti-intellectual, scared and hateful.

[Kievan Rus]

23. Please, do not generalize

Not all pro-lifers are like that. Sure, the majority of them are, but they aren't all like that. Not everybody that lived in Germany 1933-45 was a Nazi.

If you say that they're all like that, then you're seriously no better than the fundies.

[Horse with no Name]

25. ALL anti-abortion people want one thing

and that is to control someone else's body other than their own.
So yeah, they are ALL like that. :eyes:

I am pro-choice. I do not give one flying fuck with what ANYONE ELSE does to his/her body. Not my body. Not my business.

Now do you see the difference?

[tavalon]

33. Do you mean the anti-choicers?

I'm not sure I understand the term pro-life since most of them are also for the death penalty and they support war with gusto. They don't seem very pro-life at all, really.

[4lbs]

24. They are all for fighting for the life of the child while it's still in the womb.

However, once the child is born, pretty much screw it. That kid and mother are someone else's problem now.

No public financial assistance for the mother or child.

No public healthcare assistance for the mother or child.

No housing assistance for the mother or child.

No food assistance for the mother or child.

No education assistance for the mother or child.

Nothing. After all, all that stuff above is just Commie, Socialist crap of no importance here.

Oh, and, if that child grows up, and commits a crime when he/she is 20 years old, these same "Pro-Life" people that fought for him/her in the womb, now have no problem advocating for him/her being put to death.


Some "Pro-Life" movement eh?

[Lorien]

27. They do like human vegetables too

As long as the "person" has no ideas or thoughts they're worth fighting for to right wing extremists. They'll go mad over a legally brain dead woman who has been in a coma for 15 years, but they don't give a flying f*ck about the millions of others who die due to lack of health insurance, fraud by health insurance (refusing to pay benefits) or a fraud of a war. Suffering by the thinking is A-OK, just don't let the precious stem cells suffer!

[ehrnst]

35. To veiw the fetus as a separate entity to be 'saved' from the woman...

is a basically misogynist view.

No one, NO ONE exists but by the consent of a woman to carry to term.

To remove her consent from pregnancy is to negate her as a person.

[BlueCollar]

26. AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[greeneyedboy]

29. "Womb control fanatics" &/or "forced birth advocates" work(s) for me

[tavalon]

34. Forced Birth Advocates is the best reframe I've heard.

[ljm2002]

39. Another vote for "Forced Birth Advocates"

I had taken to calling them Forced Birthers but I like Forced Birth Advocates because the phrase is more natural.

And the Forced Birth part gets the point across, that what they are for is forcing women to give birth regardless of the circumstances. So it more accurately conveys the idea that they are imposing something on someone. Linguistically, denying someone a choice is just not as harsh as forcing them to give birth.

[donheld]

30. I generally get annoyed at upper case posts but,

in this case I wish it was not just upper case but large size headline type, and maybe actually screamingly vocal.
Your point needs to be blared from the top of every tall building in every city, town and village in the country.

[dysfunctional press]

36. the two sides of the debate are "pro-choice" and 'pro-life"...

trying to dictate what moniker a rival group should be called by is every bit as ignorant as when the republicans decided that the democratic party should be named the 'democrat-socialist party'.

it looks like our side has some of the same kind of petty moranic "thinkers" as their's. :shrug:

[goclark]

37. I bet their women family members and girlfriends

have had more abortions than you can count on your fingers.

The idiots are out of their cages and it is getting real crazy.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. They're pro-preggers because naughty women must be punished.

Women are not supposed to enjoy sex. At least not "nice" women. Women who want abortions, obviously, didn't have sex to have babies. So, a just and benevolent God decrees that they must be punished for daring to have sex for any other reason than to "multiply".

It's the same old Eve taking that naughty apple and leading otherwise saintly men astray B.S. that have kept women subservient for centuries.