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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:07 PM
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Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, Ed Schultz - How MSNBC Became a Liberal Mecca
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Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, Ed Schultz - How MSNBC Became a Liberal Mecca
by Rory O'Connor | June 1, 2009


“I’m a liberal — and I’m not running from that word!” exclaims Ed Schultz, the latest lefty star in the cable television news-and-opinion firmament. Schultz, America’s top-rated progressive radio talk show host, has just finished his first month as host of the eponymous “Ed Show” on MSNBC, which is attempting to duplicate its earlier success in crossing over progressive radio talk show host Rachel Maddow.

Despite the startling success of Maddow and the recent addition of Schultz to an increasingly liberal lineup that also includes MSNBC’s first breakout star Keith Olbermann, getting anyone other than on-air talent like Schultz and Maddow to admit the obvious — that the rising cable net is in the process of re-branding itself as the left-winged equivalent of right-leaning industry leader Fox News – can be difficult. For example, when asked if the decision to hire Schultz was part of a conscious strategy to “move left, MSNBC President Phil Griffin chooses his words carefully.

“The answer is complicated…but simple at same time,” Griffin responds. “The network has evolved a lot in the past few years. We went from doing a little bit of everything to doing lots of politics under Keith from 2003-05. We first began to get traction after the Iraq war started, after ‘Mission Accomplished.’ Then, more and more, politics led the way. When we did well with it in the 2006 elections, we made a decision to become ‘the place for politics,’ as the late Tim Russert dubbed us – and all of a sudden began to take off a little.”

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Despite the gains going left has won for MSNBC, however, Schultz’ boss maintains he still won’t rush into anything wont rush the transition. “The biggest mistake this network made in past was rushing in, and thinking any good idea would work,” says Griffin. ” We had lots of good talent in the past — but what we needed was a sensibility.”

Now that Schultz has been added to the lineup at 6 pm, Griffin’s most immediate concern is what else to do in primetime, where the valuable ten o’clock slot following Maddow’s program is now devoted to re-runs of Olbermann’s earlier 8 pm cablecast. Can the MSNBC honcho offer any “vision” of what will “flow” out of Maddow?

“Is it necessary that the flow out of Rachel be progressive?” Griffin ponders. “I have a little different perspective. Honestly, don’t know if it will be a progressive — Rachel really came out of nowhere, and I don’t necessarily think her follow-up host has to be limited to that pure sensibility. Clearly it should be someone who is both smart and funny like she is… But I will make one promise: we’re not done yet! This is such a vibrant time in media, and I want to say to Rachel’s audience – and everywhere I go I get stopped, there’s such a connection between her and her audience, she’s helped open a new world of approaches for us — that people who like Rachel will like our new 10 o’clock show host and what we are going to do there. No, I take that back,” he concludes. “Rachel’s audience will LOVE IT! I promise.”
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:14 PM
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1. A bit of demographic diversity would be nice, tho. Or someone with a strong labor message.
There's all sorts of gaps in what you get when you count Tweety, Keith, Rachel, & Ed as your liberal constellation. Stylistically, they're different, but Olbermann & Maddow really do cover a little too much of the same territory--hot news items, dumbass conservatives in Congress and the airwaves, the occasionaly off-beat entertainment story.

What about getting a real muckraker in there? Or someone with more of a green/community empowerment focus?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:19 PM
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4. I agree
I may be dating myself, but I'd like to see a Phil Donahue type bring some actual Left issues (like labor) to the teevee. I'd actually start watching it!
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:33 PM
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12. Another great choice, imho.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:45 PM
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16. They already fired him, right before the Iraq invasion. He was
loudly against the invasion and several of his last shows dealt with the bogus claims that were being used by Bushco. I believe Helen Thomas was on his last (or near last) show.

Then he disappeared. A few years later I saw a Marlo Thomas interview and she specifically said that MSNBC let him go because they didn't want any voices of dissent about the war.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:30 PM
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6. Ed Schultz is a powerful labor voice.
He has labor leaders on all of the time. Does town halls for them.

He must be the most pro-labor tv host in history.

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:32 PM
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10. I've never seen him; glad to hear someone's speaking up for us
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:39 PM
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14. Schultz Is Very Pro Union...
I haven't heard a better advocate for labor on the corporate media ever. He has brought on union leaders and comes at it being from a working class background, not a beltway elitist (at least not yet).

There are plenty of Muckrakers on Keith & Rachel's show...I'd rather see them contributing than being a "star". This is the network you'll see a Jon Turley, Josh Marshall, Glenn Greenwald and many others...and in prime time. Many times I can watch a story perculate on the blogs and know that it'll be covered. I'm certain we'll hear plenty about the right wing connections to Dr. Tiller's murderer. A lot more discussion this year than we had just a year ago.

Remember, cable teevee is entertainment and money first, information second (and a distant one at that).
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:14 PM
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2. Complicated but simple
Translation: People are seeing through the right wing bullshit and we have to have something for the non-gullible to watch.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:17 PM
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3. Thom Hartmann...
if he'd do it, would be a good one for that later spot. He always gives the other side a voice and respect. Plus, he has a good personality.
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:31 PM
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7. I agree, either Thom Hartmann, or Randi Rhodes (if we can keep her on her meds, LOL!) or
Katrina Vanden heuvel of the Nation, or Jonathan Alter, Howard Fineman. All would be a definite compliment to Rachel Maddow (the smartest woman in the world).
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:38 PM
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13. oooo... Randi is a bit of loose cannon at times
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 02:38 PM by dana_b
she's not as gentle with differing opinions as Thom is. Katrina, Jonathan or Howard may all be alright too.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:32 PM
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9. They have Thom on panels occasionally.
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 02:33 PM by onehandle
I suspect that he would be on the list of candidates for a new show (that is if he wants it, not all do).

This is how it happened for Ed.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:20 PM
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5. Does it have anything to do with Ryan Wolffe?
I have been reading the Daily Howler again, and Somerby thinks it is sort of a liberal cesspool more than a mecca. That it, just like the rest of the M$M/RWNM is dumbing down the discourse. He's a little bit harsh, but I think he raises valid concerns.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:32 PM
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8. I tend to find MSNBC conservative during the day and liberal at night
which I think is fair. On the other hand, FAUX is conservative all day and all night.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:33 PM
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11. 3 hours of rightwing programming per day via Joe Scarborough,
...and 3 hours of leftwing programming per day (Olbermann, Maddow, Schultz) somehow adds up to "liberal mecca."
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:42 PM
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15. Especially compared To Fox's 24/7 right-wing propaganda.
n/t
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