In my opinion, the 'Pro-life" Movement is the biggest fraud in U.S. History

[Tony_FLADEM]

The Conservative movement uses the morality associated with being against abortion to help themselves attain power. Being against abortion allows them to take a moral position on something without having to do anything or give something up. And they use this to attain power and enrich themselves. I don't know why the American People haven't figured that out.

[muntrv]

1. That's why I call them PRO-FETUS.

[dflprincess]

7. Exaclty.

Once the child is born, it's on its own. And should it have made the mistake to be born to a poor family, that's just the child's tough luck - don't be asking the "pro-lifers" to help - they have other "pre-born" (their word) to save.

[BlooInBloo]

2. "States' rights"-ers might compete, but yah.

[AllentownJake]

3. Its a 1950s mentality and its a control issue

The people in charge of the Republican party know very well that abortion will always be legal for their children. Whether they are Religious leaders or political leaders. This is not about abortion.

This is about denying it to the rest of population to keep them under control. All these young kids from the lower middle class, especially women, moving up in the world by being able to attend college is not good for them.

The last thing they want are people who move up who remember where they came from.

On the lower class scale you have fundamentalist. The one thing that has always struck me about most extreme fundamentalist is they generally not born or raised in the movement. They usually come into it as adults. I guess the biggest people who are for prohibition of anything are converts whether they be Augustine or George W. Bush.

[Lasher]

4. Neocons call this a 'noble lie'.

Here's what Irving Kristol had to say:

"There are different kinds of truths for different kinds of people. There are truths appropriate for children; truths that are appropriate for students; truths that are appropriate for educated adults; and truths that are appropriate for highly educated adults, and the notion that there should be one set of truths available to everyone is a modern democratic fallacy. It doesn't work."

It has been suggested that Kristol's and other neoconservatives' support of creationism/Intelligent design is an example of that in action.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie#Irving_Kristol

The neocons just said whatever the fundies wanted to hear because they needed their votes to get into power. It worked.

[omega minimo]

5. and that's called an Oxymoron

[rucky]

6. It makes people froth at the mouth talking about it.

They hit upon a divisive gold mine.

Next time you hear one rant, ask them why Republicans had control of every branch for 4 years and never made any moves to repeal Roe.

[MadHound]

8. Phht! You've only got half the equation

Let's get pro-lifers riled up to a murderous frenzy, let's get pro-choicers riled up to a murderous frenzy. Let's keep a group of people who should, by all other conceivable measures, be allies against the corporate elite, divided and at war with themselves while the elite make out like bandits, laughing all the way. This is what's been done for decades and centuries, first with racism, and then as people of different races started actually coming together over the past fifty years, with religion and issues like abortion.

I don't know why the American people haven't figured that out, but sadly, they haven't, so we continue to battle amongst ourselves while the elite continue to easily control the masses for their advantage.