How many D.U.ers would walk out

[samplegirl]

of their local business's if they had FOX news on their t.v.s?
I liked when Keith Olberman asked people to walk out if this was the case.

We have several pizza shops and local diners that I stopped going to because they had Fox news on.

The one diner I asked as it on more than one T.V. do I really have to watch this? and the waitress was nice enough to change it...............if not I'm outta there.

[begin_within]

1. A brazilian

[Viva_La_Revolution]

100. lol!

:spray:

[C_U_L8R]

2. In Penn Station NYC they blast Faux on multiple monitors

and every time I happen to be there, I ask them to change it because it is offensive.
So far they haven't.

[Stephanie]

53. In the news stands in Grand Central too

[leftynyc]

70. I told the Hudson News in GCT

I would never walk in there again while they had Fox news on. And I haven't.

[Stephanie]

73. IIRC the TVs have Fox News logo on them - no?

Four big TVs blasting Fox News in the middle of Grand Central. Who owns Hudson News?

*edit* Answered my own question - Swiss company:

http://www.hudsongroup.com/about_us.php

Since September 2008, Hudson Group has been a wholly-owned subsidiary of international duty-free travel retailer Dufry AG (DUFN.SW) of Basel Switzerland, a public corporation traded on the Swiss stock exchange.



http://www.hudsongroup.com/contact.php

President & CEO - Joseph DiDomizio
Business Development
Michael Mullaney, EVP, Business Strategy & Development - [e-mail]

Operations
Domestic: Roger Fordyce, EVP & COO, North American Operations - [e-mail]
International: Brian Quinn, EVP & COO, International Operations - [e-mail]

Sales and Marketing
Hope Remoundos, EVP - [e-mail]
Mike Maslen, VP, Sales (HBA, Snacks, Candy) - [e-mail]
Sara Hinckley, VP, Book Purchasing & Promotion - [e-mail]

Merchandising
Michael Levy, SVP & Chief Merchandising Officer - [e-mail]

Finance

Bill Wolf, SVP - [e-mail]

Human Resources
Rick Yockelson, SVP, People & Administration - [e-mail]

Information Technology
Gary MacRae, SVP & Chief Information Officer - [e-mail]

Corporate Communications
Laura Samuels, VP - [e-mail]

Food & Beverage
Tom Kornacki, SVP - [e-mail]

Customer Service
Gary McBrayer, Director - [e-mail]

Legal
Jay Marshall, General Counsel - [e-mail]

Design & Construction
Joe Schkufza, VP, Store Development - [e-mail]

[leftynyc]

78. I hadn't ever noticed that

I just saw fox news was on asked them to change it, they refused and I told them they lost a customer.

[vadawg]

3. sorry i got bigger fish to fry, im not in a store or business to watch TV

im there for some sort of service.

[Greyhound]

138. And what "bigger fish" are those?

Oh I know, you are so busy and so important in your constant struggle to acquire.

[rucky]

4. I barely eat out anywhere in my town.

FOX is on at nearly every establishment here in Boehner country.

When I do, I always tell the management I don't appreciate them showing Right-Wing propaganda. They usually change it - even though I don't think any of them realize how offensive FOX is.

I think customers do it.

[TahitiNut]

5. I do it. I won't stay where it's polluting the air.

:shrug: If THAT'S their idea of "news" then I won't do business there.

[Fumesucker]

6. Get one of these instead..

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/755e/

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there are about 250 million television sets in the U.S. and we can guess that the majority of them are turned on a lot of the time. All in all, this is not bad (heck, we enjoy a good movie as much as anyone else) but there are some occasions when you just need to do everyone a favor and turn the TV off. A certain portion of television content is just plain questionable and about as healthy as second-hand smoke.

Enter the TV-B-Gone, a small television remote that hangs on your keychain and turns off virtually any television with the press of button. "Now, what would be the purpose of such a device?" you may be asking yourself. Well, without revealing too much of our devious nature we can think of a few things. Imagine sports bars or annoying talking head shows that appear on monitors at the airport. Add to that your own creativity and we're pretty sure you'll come up with some ideas. All you need to do is press the button and keep pointing it at the TV until it turns off (which may take up to 69 seconds). The next 69 seconds will be spent quietly, or not so quietly, enjoying the perplexed expressions of the TV automatons.

[mdmc]

28. thank you for this link

[KittyWampus]

37. awesome

[goddess40]

47. I have a TV B Gone

I'll have to dig it out. Thanks for the reminder.

It doesn't work on all tv's so I don't know if it will work on the newer tv's

[reflection]

75. Man, I would buy one of those in a New York second.

But the link you provided says they are 'out of stock'. I wonder where I can get one. Going to keep looking for one of those. My doctor's waiting room is wall-to-wall Fox News. I always sit with my back to it.

edit for spelling

[derby378]

80. Wonderful idea!

Thank you for sharing. Think Geek rocks. :hi:

[RufusTFirefly]

88. Love this. But most of my exposure to intrusive TV is at airports

I'd probably be shipped off for "preventive detention" if the DHS authorities found this on my person.

[Coyote_Bandit]

7. Ummmm......

One of the reasons I did not renew my gym membership was because of their tv choice.

That said, I'd also walk if they were playing Olbermann. Same faux journalistic crap. Different agenda.

Olbermann and Limbaugh have a lot in common IMHO.

[baldguy]

19. The significant difference is that Olbermann try to convey the truth.

[Coyote_Bandit]

55. Truth?

There were a lot of Dems who preferred candidates other than Hillary or Obama during the primaries. But all Olbermann could do was trash Hillary and worship Obama.

I'd say that's some pretty fucking subjective truth.

[baldguy]

62. Get over it PUMA, Hillary lost.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

65. Do you realize how stupid that post makes you sound?

The OP said that he wasn't an Obama OR Hillary supporter during the primaries.

And, truth be told, I stopped watching Olberman, because of his sexist nastiness towards Hillary during the primaries. I'll probably never watch him again. Why should I watch somebody sexist?

Go ahead and call me a PUMA, if it makes you feel better, but that's how I feel about Olberman.

[leftynyc]

71. Same here

Alhtough I became a very big supporter of Pres Obama, Keith pissed me off royally during the primaries and I haven't watched him since. It's Rachel or nothing.

[baldguy]

74. According to her profile, Coyote_Bandit is a she.

And no, she didn't.

What is stupid is to equate the valid criticism of one candidate who happens to be a female with sexism against all females, and to say one commentator who is passionate about conveying the truth is the same as all the lying propagandists who try to destroy the truth simply because they're both able to speak English well.

If you don't want to watch Keith, fine. But don't dismiss him because of misconceptions you created from the primaries over a year ago. Hillary has been able to get over it, why can't you?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

77. Well, he's actually been sexist towards other women as well

All I'm saying is, I'm not going to watch somebody sexist, just like I wouldn't watch somebody who is obviously racist or homophobic.

I'm not sure why you care whether or not people watch Olberman and why.

[baldguy]

86. I defend Keith for the same reason I defend Randi Rhodes. They both try to convey the truth.

But, I suppose you hate her because she's sexist against women too?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

87. Actually, I've never listened to Randi Rhodes, because I can't stand talk radio

But as I said, Keith has been sexist not just in regards to Hillary.

I won't watch him anymore, because of this. Apparently, this is deeply upsetting to you. Perhaps you should reflect on why somebody's opinion of a celebrity is so important to you on a personal level.

[baldguy]

106. Apparently you're upset enough about the name "Obermann" to make a special point of slandering him.

If you have an accusation, make it. There are plenty of haters out there for you to come up with specific examples other than vague hearsay. (If you can't come up with anything on your own, I'm sure someone like Perry Logan will help.)

Otherwise, you should realize that EVERY liberal media advocate - in print, on radio or on TV - has been and WILL BE targeted by RW lies. There are few enough liberal advocates in the media to allow us to lose them.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

107. Look, in my opinion, he is sexist

That is not slander.

Obviously, you don't agree. Go ahead and watch him. I don't care. I don't know why you care so much that I don't.

Who the hell is Perry Logan?

The only reason I even commented on this in the first place is because you pulled that stupid PUMA bullshit.

[baldguy]

108. If you're not willing or able to provide concrete examples, it's just another unfounded accusation.

Which is exactly behavior PUMAs engaged in. All of that unreasoning, seething hatred against the Inadequate Black Male and people who backed the winning candidate stems only from the fact they backed the winning candidate instead of Hillary & has nothing to do with what Obama & Keith & Randi & everyone else have actually said or done.

Hillary got over it. Why can't you?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

112. Wow, you have issues

It's sad that you can't get over the primaries.

I will pray for you.

Here's a :hug:, it sounds like you need one.

[baldguy]

116. Keep the phony sanctimony. I'm not the one whining about who supported which candidate a year ago.

Or maintains a grudge against people who didn't support my candidate.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

128. I wasn't even on here during the primaries

That's what's so funny about your posts.

[TLM]

151. Oh please...

You can't back up your attacks with actual examples of sexism, and no amount of condescension and mock pity will hide that fact.

[hfojvt]

147. perhaps examples abound

a viewer might not readily be able to cite them though. Perhaps she just watched the show and heard something and said "what a sexist thing to say" but didn't bother to write down the date and time and the exact quote. Perhaps more watching brought more examples that were similarly not recorded, or one egregrious example that convinced her, although she didn't bother to carry it around to try and prove it to his fans.

Somerby has mentioned a few examples, and seems to agree with Haruka.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh051309.shtml

"Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! But yes: That’s why progressive cable has focused on the insignificant person, Prejean, rather than on someone more important. MSNBC has focused on Prejean so Wolff can run endless swimsuit tape, thereby letting Olbermann muse about those breast implants.

Why did Olbermann mention those breast implants twice? Rubes! Because that was the actual topic!

That, and the fact that Olbermann has a remarkable, long-time jones about trashing young women."

...

"WTF means “what the f*ck.” Years ago, that was our own reaction when we watched Olbermann, night after night, ridiculing a string of young women. Young male athletes were doing lots of weird things at the time. Funny—they never got mentioned."

Feel free to search his incomparable archives for more examples.

[nadinbrzezinski]

136. He is such a sexist that he's been calling

the right on their racism over Sotomayor, as well as their misogyny.

You don't like him, fine.

But at least he tries this little thing that is refreshing in US media... which is journalistic integrity.

That is not common in most media any more

And yes his comments about HRC during the campaign were biting but they were not sexist. And yes a couple times he might have crossed a line, but he warned you he was about to, as those were the special comments that were well deserved. Not just by HRC the candidate either, by the way

[Beacool]

143. They all were, it's just a sorry excuse of a network.

Matthews is a sexist creep, Olbermann a bombastic windbag, Carlson was another pig when he had his show over there. The only one I would watch is Maddow, pity she's not on another network.

x(

[Coyote_Bandit]

68. Duh.

Apparently you cannot read and understand simple English. Or maybe you choose not to?

I said I did not support either Hillary or Obama during the primaries? Got that?




Party unity? Yeah, right. Exactly what Olbermann demonstrated while worshipping one candidate, ignoring several others and being absolutely vile toward another. Fuck him.

[Beacool]

140. Hear, hear!!!

The only thing MSNBC was missing during the primaries was a large banner with "Official Obama Network" on it.

They never even pretended to be neutral. I rather watch paint dry than tune to MSNBC.

x(

[tammywammy]

111. I don't like Olbermann either n/t

[Bandit]

39. Why do you participate here then?

Olberman is a political commentary show. DU is a political commentary site. Both a left leaning. Sometimes DUers are quite irrational. :shrug:

[Coyote_Bandit]

56. Maybe you missed it

Olbermann does not support all Dems.

The biased, arrogant liitle fake journalist spent considerable time during the primaries trashing Hillary, worshipping Obama and mostly ignoring the other Dem candidates.

He's not a journalist. Far from it. And he is a pretty fucking poor king maker.

[kiva]

127. Another voice who thinks that KO does not speak for all dems.

I'm glad Rachel is on, because Olberman has been turned off my TV--I prefer journalists.

[90-percent]

51. Keith and Limbaugh?

Keith's show is rooted in facts. Limbaugh's show is rooted in hate and bullshit.

Please tell me what the two shows have in common?

thanks!

-90% Jimmy

[Coyote_Bandit]

60. I'd say

KO's attitude toward Hillary during the primaries was pretty fucking full of hate and bullshit. Bastard wanted to be a king maker instead of a journalist. It was obvious to me and I wasn't a Hillary supporter.

I'll never watch KO again. I think he should be taken off the air. No reason for me to tolerate a left leaning fake journalist that engages in the same kind of bullshit as the right leaning fake journalists. I will not defend (or accept) behavior from a left leaning prick that I condemn in right leaning pricks.

[jotsy]

81. R U on favorable turf here CB?

As a registered independent voter, I'm an equal opportunity critic who'll not be a party to either party, having said that CB, I think you need some time in a happy chair!
The evolution of mass media has undergone a lot of steps to become the said and sorry thing it is today, but I'll get back to that in a minute.
There is a powerful machine at work Eisenhower referred to as the "military industrial" complex and it has grown a couple of limbs since he warned us not to go there, but in terms of places there's less and less of them to be.
The power brokers that run the cogs our country operates on began pandering to the left wing mind set in the months leading up to last years elections. They saw the writing on the wall and knew it was time to bail on the right wing so they'd appear to be one of the good guys when the dust settled. They don't really care which party's in charge as long as they are observed in a favorable light, it will take some time, but I believe that ultimately, unless journalists reclaim the neutral ground, that the media will return to its now familiar role as mouthpiece for the monetarily mighty.
Now, back to the degradation of how we get our info. When tabloid tv emerged in the early to mid 80's, I believe it threw the newsies back some. So they adjusted. Though they should have known better than to think there was any room for editorializing while delivering the news, they had to compete with their compelling info-tainment cousins for market share. Since then, the mass media has morphed into the land of talking heads is fraught with fervor and an obvious desire to shape opinion rather than simply inform as is their original calling.
Given the advent of technology, information sources are now wide spread and the truth has become a matter of where you like to find it. News may return to objectivity and reason, but hecklers like you are going to hinder the process.
As for Mr. Olbermann, in my humble opinion, he's come into this industry at one of its darkest days, and engaged in a way that is humorous, informative and thought provoking. One of the few TV hosts that doesn't leave me yelling about the questions that didn't get asked. So don't blame him, he didn't set the stage.

[yowzayowzayowza]

105. Welcome aboard, jotsy!!

:hi:

[clear eye]

129. Tabloid TV didn't simply "emerge in the 80's", it was created by the elimination of the Fairness

Doctrine, under Reagan. It literally couldn't have operated with the old rules since they would have had to give equal time to opponents of their rants.

[HughMoran]

125. I used to shut Faux off at my gym, I then quit it (for a less expensive choice anyway)

:+

[armyowalgreens]

8. I would, but Krispy Kreme is just too damn good.

Sorry, I have a weak will when I'm on a donut mission.:9

[Sebastian Doyle]

94. Better Krispy Kreme than Dunkin Donuts

...which is owned by Mitt Romney and the Bush Crime Family.

[Greyhound]

141. You know, the crap you're eating isn't even close to Krispy Kreme.

Once they sold out and the corporate parasites took it over the quality of a real Krispy Kreme was the first thing sacrificed.

What you're eating is HFCS and sugar bonded in a bit of flour and deep fried in vegetable oil, and the only resemblance to a Krispy Kreme doughnut is the shape and the box.

[TankLV]

149. KK - the WORST FUCKING DONUT ON THE PLANET - nothing but a grease ball...

you've never experienced a good donut - and that's too bad...

[cali]

9. thank dog that not one single local business that I can think of

has a TV on. Not the local diner or pizza place. Certainly not the hip localvore restaurant bar, not the redneck bar, not a single shop. I'm so glad I live in Vermont.

[lapfog_1]

10. I live in the middle of conservative dumfuckistan, Arizona.

and EVERY business that has a TV on, is tuned to Faux.

I try not to go to any business that has any TVs on, but there is only one Pizza place in town, and, unless there is a Diamondback or Cardinal game, the TeeVee is blasting inSanity and O'Liely everywhere. Can't be avoided and they won't change the channel. So... I try not to eat pizza much and use take out whenever possible.

But I'm probably one of the few people this side of Attila the Hun here.

I believe that it is driving me insane. I just have to get out of here.

[armyowalgreens]

14. As a fellow phoenician...

I feel you. This place is driving me insane. I can't take the stupidity.

We should all pack into a van and head for Massachusetts.

[lapfog_1]

26. I got $40 for gas... but no prospects for work in Boston.

I'm stuck here with no employment, no prospects for employment and no money.

My best bet would be to get back to San Jose and hope someone can find something for this old OS hacker to do.

[drmeow]

101. Come over to Tempe

its a little better here :) - not much but a little. There's at least one left leaning bar that I know of (Time Out Lounge at Broadway and Southern) and an organization called "Drinking Liberally" (like-minded liberals getting together for happy hour) used to meet weekly at El Penasco at Broadway and Mill (don't know if they still do).

Just stay away from Mesa if you value your sanity!

[armyowalgreens]

114. I lived in tempe for 9 months as an ASU student. I'm moving back in a month.

I will hopefully be saying goodbye to Queen Creek/Gilbert forever.

[drmeow]

117. BLECH! Queen Creek/Gilbert?

No wonder you're being driven insane! To survive in this town its best to stay west of 101/Price, east of 17 and north of Ray!

[armyowalgreens]

119. It's rough being a socialist in Gilbert. I tend to keep my mouth shut.

The only place I ever had anyone tell me that they didn't like my Obama shirt was at a target in Gilbert. This old guy with a cowboy hat blew my doors off as I waited in line to check out.

[drmeow]

144. I tend to keep my mouth shut

Very wise. They're armed and dangerous down there.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

11. Depends.

I was out at a local eatery with my brother, my sister and her kids, and after ordering I noticed Faux was on. I ignored it for the most part, aside from a few harmless EEKs whenever they flashed Hannity's face on screen. No reason to ruin the kids' fun.

If I'm by myself, there's no reason to ruin my fun either. :evilgrin:

[mmonk]

12. One visit is usually my last.

I don't put up with propaganda anymore and any establishment that shows any doesn't get my money.

[Uben]

13. I have the remarkable ability of not watching......

....or listening! I think business owners should be able to watch whatever they want as long as it is not blaring. I don't judge a business by what's on a TV. Chances are it's an employee that has it on the channel, anyway. And, I never, ever watch FOX.

If I bitched about what's on the TV at someone's business, I would be just like a lot of them, judging a person by their political beliefs, which I have found is wrong. When you live in a republican haven as I do, you learn to concentrate on what is important and not what is on the TV or an individuals political beliefs. That business owner may be providing a good job for a number of democrats, who in turn would be hurt by your denial of business. It's your choice, of course, but I will never be that shallow. I do not march to any particular drummer.

[MadHound]

15. I don't base my food decisions on what the people have on the tube

First of all, I generally go to places that don't have TV's anyway. You're there for the food and the atmosphere, not the goddamn boob tube. Secondly, having Faux on the tube is, in many case, a decently smart business decision, and I can't fault the owners for having it on. Finally, I don't base my food choices, or my entertainment choices for that matter, on the person's politics, I base them on how good their product, be it food or entertainment, is.

[Ganja Ninja]

16. I've done it.

I used to regularly buy lunch at a little sub shop around the corner. The owner had FOX going every day as well as running his mouth and bashing liberals. I didn't ask them to change the channel. I just quit giving him my business altogether.

[yy4me]

20. Did you tell the owner why you quit? I would have. Let him/her

think about it a little. If enough people expressed their opinion, It might sink in.

[Ganja Ninja]

25. He was a rabid right winger.

The guy was a transplant from NYC with a bad attitude. I quit going there 4 years ago. At the time it wouldn't have done much good. He was all fired up for the war. I figured why waste my breath.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. I always ask them to turn the channel

and they usually do.

Only exception is in DC, both of my repuke senators had Fox on in their waiting rooms of their offices. I asked both why they didn't just tune in CSPAN but they didn't change the channel.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

95. Because CSPAN actually show senators engaged on the floor....

and maybe they know how fucking lame they look when the hot air is gushing from between their teeth.

I would have wanted to throw something through their dumb fucking FoxNews TV's

[Horse with no Name]

18. I already do.

Was nice to see it on a wide scale.
Fox News foments and encourages domestic terrorism. Their fucking license to be on the air should be pulled.

[aikoaiko]

21. Did KO really ask viewers to do that?

There is something about Keith asking people to do this that rubs me the wrong way, but I can't put my finger on it.

I don't care what a business has on its TVs.

[B Calm]

22. I changed insurance company once because they were playing Rush

Limbaugh on their radio.

[uncle ray]

66. i quit patronizing a local food shack for the same reason.

it was a large hot dog stand. not only did the owner have rush blaring on the radio, he was blathering on about what oxymoron was talking about to the minimum wage worker who was trying to serve me, preventing him from doing so. i never returned. they had good brats. "had", they're out of business now.

gotta love the free market.

[Sebastian Doyle]

96. There was this teriyaki place here locally back in the 1990's

It was starting to get a lot of business because they gave you a better deal for the price than their competitor and the food actually tasted better (No MSG or whatever)

The owners put up a huge billboard sized "Linda Smith" sign in their parking lot. Linda Smith was the local Freeper congress woman elected in the 1994 congressional purge and pretty much universally despised in the Liberal end of the district.

I never ate there again. Neither did anybody else I know. And it killed their business, which is a damn shame because the food really was good. Come to think of it, I don't think any business was ever successful at that location again. It's an empty lot now. For all the conservatives like to talk about the "free market" it doesn't work well for them when they're honest about themselves. :evilgrin:

[peace frog]

23. I complained

at the doctor's office (yep, their telly was set on Faux Snooze) that their choice of programming was offensive in an already too-stressful environment for sick people, and the office clerk changed the channel. Worked like a charm, but I don't advise complaining just anywhere - in some settings, better to leave and take your business elsewhere. If enough customers did, the message would be delivered though perhaps ill-received.

[TheCowsCameHome]

24. I leave.

Sorry, I won't knowingly pay a dime to anyone that pushes FOX drivel on unsuspecting customers.

[mdmc]

27. I boycott everything GOP related

so I wouldn't watch fox at some shop..

[LiberalEsto]

29. I suspect Fux provides free tvs

to those who promise to blast their garbage all day, every day.

[DS1]

54. They're almost always on the basic cable package

Crafty

[Celtic Merlin]

30. Don't be a bunch of pussies - get the channel changed.

This isn't about "I have better things to do" or "I don't choose my food based on politics" or "I'll piss off the owner". Those statements are a chickenshit cop-out. If you CLAIM to be a Progressive, a Democrat, a Liberal, or any of the other things we call ourselves here, get the channel changed.

If you're gonna talk the talk here, then walk the walk in the real world. Anything less puts you in the same boat as Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly - the USS Chickenshit Chickenhawk. All about TALKING UP the war, the battle, the struggle, the need for change in America, but not about joining the fight for real.

This is about tuning out the hate speech. Getting it out of people's ears. Toning down the outrageous rhetoric being vomited upon our nation. I've read far too many comments here from folks who are trying to explain why they're just too damned good or far too important or way too busy to do this. Be part of the solution or you're simply condoning the problem. You want change - REAL FUCKING CHANGE - in this nation? If so, then summon up the self-respect you need to make a simple damn request.

Or just grow a set and ask that the channel be changed.

I've done it four times in the last 2 months. One guy (a busboy) argued with me about it. I pointed out that that FOXed-Up News is propaganda and that as a paying customer, I couldn't understand how he was in any position to disagree with me. He changed the channel himself - to CNN, but it sure beat listening to the garbage FOX spews. The other three changed the channel without a peep.

If I'm ever refused, I'll leave and I'll tell them why. My money spends EVERYWHERE!!!

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist

[raccoon]

49. Great post. how about changing that to "Don't be a bunch of wimps?"

I strongly object to the word "Pussy/pussies" used to describe persons who are weak, timid, or unmanly.

Pussy

5. Slang A man regarded as weak, timid, or unmanly.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pussy

[madokie]

31. Not only will I walk out

I'll make a scene too

[Celtic Merlin]

32. Bravo, Sir! Bravo indeed! (n/t)

[madokie]

40. Having been lied into a war myself

and spending 15 months in said war is what gives me the gumption to do it too.

[HughMoran]

126. More people need to make a scene. This is hate television designed to make people hateful

It should not be permitted in a public location. It's more dangerous than second hand smoke.

[LostinVA]

33. I have and still do -- I quit a gym becaue of it

[cboy4]

34. I've changed the channel before at the fucking Jiffy Lube waiting to get

my oil changed because I was bored and wanted to watch something.

If I'm eating or shopping or doing something where I'm not interested in TV, I don't do much other than curse under my breath.

I read somewhere that FAUX gives businesses free televisions in exchange for keeping them tuned to FOX. Don't know how true that is, but I thought I read about it here on DU.

[Kalyke]

43. Read my post below.

It was the Jiffy Lube that had the policy of always having it on Faux. I tried changing the channel before, but the TVs then had no other channels. After my complaints, they do now. :)

[cboy4]

50. LOL. I was wondering if that was a Jiffy Lube you were talking about.

When I changed the channel, there were a few other guys in the room and I just got up like it was my house and announced I was puting on the Giants game.

Nobody said a thing.

That's hilarious they unlocked channels after you complained! Just goes to show when push comes to shove, money and customer loyalty trumps FAUX. :thumbsup: :o

[Kalyke]

35. I do it all the time

Even complained to the manager of my favorite "oil change" shop. The manager took it to the regional manager's meeting and, lo and behold, I go in 3,000 miles later to discover the History Channel on and a proud manager who had been waiting to see me (he also hates Faux "News," but the management dictated it be on).

I've had them change the TVs in restaurants and, when I go see my doctor next week, I'll make him change it, too.

There's no reason I should be subjected to propaganda.

Oh - did I mention I live in a teeny liberal enclave in a sea of otherwise conservatism?

[MineralMan]

36. I'm rarely in businesses that have TVs on, but I complain

when FNC is on if I'm in one. It usually gets the channel changed.

The barber shop I go to has a TV on, but it's always on the History Channel. That's generally inoffensively boring enough.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

38. I changed banks

the one I had used and loved was gobbled up by another, who remodeled the bank and installed televisions that were always on Faux. Couldn't stand that or the new attitude of the tellers, and moved to another bank.

[OwnedByFerrets]

41. If its a business that I'm visiting voluntarily, yes, I will walk out.

[undeterred]

42. A business down the street from me has Limbaugh on all day.

Which is far worse than Fox News. I used to stop in and visit these people every week just to be friendly. In October 2004 the owner laid his opinion on me that John Kerry was no patriot and George Bush was a patriot. Limbaugh talking point of the day. I never went back after that.

A dentist I went to had Fox News while I was in the chair. I told them to turn it off because it was making me sick.

[Bluzmann57]

44. I work at a place that has random drug testing

Which is an issue to itself, but anyway, we have to go to a local clinic to do it. The last time I was there, they had fox news on and I asked the receptionist if either I could change it or she could change it. She said that the other people in the waiting room asked for it. The option of leaving wasn't there because I'd like to keep my job for a while. So I read a magazine instead. But it still presents a problem under Olbermann's scenario. Sometimes one doesn't have the option to simply walk out.

[goddess40]

45. They had it on in the office at my son's school

several years ago and I walked over and turned it off. I then went to the principal to complain and he tried to tell me that some watch CNN. He tried to tell me that CNN was as liberal as FOX is conservative.

The TV is now only on the school channel.

[musicblind]

58. I hate when people claim CNN is liberal

when a substantial amount of peer reviewed research has shown it is not.

[RufusTFirefly]

91. Indeed. Corporatist CNN provides a kind of cover for fascist propagandist Faux

Without the myth that CNN is liberal, Fox would eventually be recognized for what it actually is.

That was one of my issues with Outfoxed. In an effort perhaps to keep its message clear, it created a sort of "lone nut" or "bad apple" theory of TV news.

[TankLV]

150. That shows how fucking WACKO RIGHT WING fux is...

anything else would seem quite "liberal" by comparison...

insanity compared to half truths will do that everytime...

[timtom]

46. Most definitely, I would.

I very rarely eat at establishments that have tv's on, anyway.

[Roxy66]

48. I always ask them to change it..or I leave.

period

[RadicalTexan]

52. I always do

It makes me want to puke.

[musicblind]

57. I no longer dine at Rockola Cafe in Asheboro because they were playing Fox News when I was in there

Everyone in this small conservative town watches it. I wonder why Forbes said Asheboro was one of the fastest dying cities in the country :(

[havocmom]

59. I would

and I HAVE (but only after telling staff or managers at such places EXACTLY why I was going to a competitor)

Edited to add: one was a Ford dealership. They just can't figure out why they aren't selling cars? Oh, let me count the ways.

[Kalyke]

97. Pssst... Ford's not in trouble. They outsell Toyota.

:hi:

[havocmom]

122. Yeah, but we owned a ford

and we don't anymore ;)

[iamthebandfanman]

61. I change the channels in places that you can

like doctors offices and the like...

i cant stand for fox to be on anywhere. let alone in view of the masses.
lol.

unfortunately i cant turn it to msnbc using our local cable provider , so i hafta settle for cnn on public tvs ;)

[tabbycat31]

63. the only place I go where it's on is the gym

and they have multiple TVs. Faux is on next to CNN and MSNBC.

[RB TexLa]

64. I guess I'd have to care what is on a television to do that, so not me.

[Kaleva]

67. I don't go out to watch TV

and I don't go out to push my views on others as I don't care for others to push their views on me.

[Forkboy]

69. My fave pizza joint could be showing Leni Reifenstahl movies and I'm staying.

Let me tell ya, they make some good food. :P

[RockaFowler]

72. My Step-Dad changes the channel

He went to the doctor's office and changed it to MSNBC. A few people walked in and screamed that the TV should never be changed from Fox Noise. My Step-Dad just laughed and laughed. Those people are pretty obsessed with that stupid channel. And he lived in the Redneck Riviera (his words not mine) of the Florida Panhandle, so this was pretty commonplace.

[lonestarnot]

76. Change the channel first then walk out if they change it back. Done.

Not new!

[hunter]

79. I ask people in the room if I might change the channel.

I'm always ready to politely discuss the issue with any Fox News zombies who come out of their stupor, but they rarely do. If you've ever dealt with overstuffed classrooms of urban middle school students, Fox News zombies are no problem.

But Fox News isn't a problem where I live anyways. Most shop televisions are tuned to Spanish language stations -- usually soccer matches or soap operas.

[Shell Beau]

82. I pay absolutely no attention to the tv when I go in a place.

So, no I wouldn't walk out because I am not even sure I would know what was on the tv. And even if I did, I am sure I wouldn't walk out. I just wouldn't pay any attention.

Edit-I never go eat by myself. I wouldn't ask my whole crew to leave because I have a problem with the tube.

[sammythecat]

83. Can't do that where I live or I'd be housbound. n/t

[Feron]

84. I wouldn't walk out.

I'd rather watch Fox news than some inane sitcom or the weather channel. My convictions aren't so fragile that they can't withstand an opposing viewpoint.

[CK_John]

85. Fox pays for that TV to be on their station either directly or with a free TV. You're not foolish

enough to think that money is not involved.

[90-percent]

89. Olbermann is a bright shiny oasis

Olbermann is a bright shiny oasis in the sea of MSM propaganda.

I'm a 55 year old male and I never picked up a sexist vibe from Keith.

I think he's rooted in a quest for good journalism - truth, facts, investigation and questioning the 'conventional wisdom'.

Boycotts are not my thing, but what are we to do when MSM unapologetically spews hate speech even after the assassination of this Doctor, then steps have to be taken.

I guess we're all targets of right wing extremists now!

Don't you all appreciate Keith for having the courage to do his show and special comments during the "Americans better watch what they say" dark era of this country during the market debut of Iraq War 2; "this time we're taking Saddam out"

I don't think there's any common ground about Keith between me and Ms. Coyote, unfortunately.

For the record, for all of DU to see, I am indeed an unabashed Keith fan, for all the right reasons. I also watch Rachel, who's ratings may be falling for some reason, and I also hope to be a Cenk fan if he ever gets a MSM gig!

-90% Jimmy

[we can do it]

90. I Told My Favorite Little Mexican Place NO MORE FOX or no more me

I told the owner if I came in one more time and that crap was on (he said he did not realize it was pro-boosh,rethug) - I was through with them- that was in 2005, haven't missed a week yet

[Cha]

92. I would not only walk out

but I would make sure they knew why.

[Beam Me Up]

93. I won't frequent an establishment with *ANY* TV on.

I don't own a TV -- I hate TV programming in general and "news" most of all. FOX is the worst but most all of them are pretty bad. They are all means of controlling our social and cultural perceptions through selectively focusing our attention on what "they" deem important, what part of it "they" want us to know about (ignoring anything they don't want us to know about) and often cast it in a way that leads us to "think" or "feel" a certain way about it. All that not to mention the constant bombardment with corporate/product advertising. TV is hypnotic. It puts people in a trance state. I'm with Howard Beal -- we should just throw the damn things out the window or only use them to watch movies.

[RufusTFirefly]

99. +1 n/t

[norepubsin08]

98. I would be for breaking the TV

sets of any fucking business that has it's on!

[bear425]

102. I have done so and will continue to.

It's important to ask for a channel change and then let manager know why. If they refuse to change the channel, take your business elsewhere.

[Orsino]

103. I almost never see Fox piped into places of business...

...but when I do, I don't return.

[blueworld]

104. Youse guys make me almost miss New Joisey - not quite, but almost

Where I live, the business district consists of 3 banks, two car dealerships (if they're still open), a hotel, a Civil War souvenir shop, 3 supermarkets and a few gas stations. They ALLLLL show Faux. If I walk out, I'll starve and definitely have to walk 'cause my car will rot in the driveway:)

I mouth off continually, and currently prefer to laugh or contradict whatever's on the boob tube. I shop elsewhere when I can, but much as I love Keith - he needs to remember some of us live in Dogpatch, USA without his salary. Peace, dudes.:hippie:

[JuniperLea]

109. Without hesitation!

I would state loudly and clearly that I will not patronize any establishment that believes the Faux News.

I refused to return to a local deli after seeing a picture of W on their wall.

[tammywammy]

110. No

We have a tv in our waiting room and sometimes customers change it to that, there's not a rule here that we must keep it on it. Sometimes it's on ESPN, Food Network, MSNBC, etc. I would assume it's the same in other places, either a customer before me requested it or changed it to it.

[yowzayowzayowza]

113. I won't walk out. I won't tamper with the TV. But I will...

exercise my free speech musing rights to the point they'll wanna change it!!!! Did that in Jiffy Lube a coupla months ago to the point they turned it off. Shut the TV and the R/W idiot up ... and got an attaboy wink from this nice lil old lady.

[graywarrior]

115. I did it in a restaurant today and I tole them why

Their eyes just spinned in circles. They couldn't comprehend it.

[rustydog]

118. We complained at the Auto dealership a bout Fox being on TV

Then we sat there and put down Billo the clown for half an hour and they changed the station. when we returned for another service issue two weeks later, the station was not on Fox!

[mwooldri]

120. My gym has Faux News on...

but then they have 9 other screens to watch as well. Regrettably no M$NBC. Usually I get to choose CMT or HGTV (yep weird workout channels...).

So I do get choice but still...

[NeedleCast]

121. Doubt I'd care much

Especially if there were other TVs so I could watch something else. About the only place I'd be inside long enough to car would be a restaurant or sports bar type place.

[RainDog]

123. I already do not frequent places with Fox News on

so businesses have already lost customers and they never knew it.

[HughMoran]

124. I sent repeated emails to my credit union to turn off, or at least put another channel on another TV

For a while they actually did put CNN on the opposing TV in their lobby. Then they put Faux back on and ignored my future emails.

I took my money out of that credit union. I've avoided other businesses due to hate TV being broadcast on their TV's. It's NOT a joke to me, show hate, no business.

[SoCalDem]

130. We DID it.. We used to have dinner every Wednesday

at a place around the corner from the bowling alley that our league was at.. After 3 weeks of asking to have the channel changed or at least the volume turned down, they said .."the customers ike it".. We reminded them that of the 5 customers in the place, TWO of them were US, and the others were facing away from the tv..and then we said we would not be back..and we never went back

[clear eye]

131. What makes it matter is that patrons are a captive audience

so in reality Fox on those TVs is being force-fed to them.

[a la izquierda]

132. Sometimes the girls at my vet put it on...

but considering he's a damn good vet, and not watching TV, I tend not to care. My dogs are phenomenally well taken care of by my vet. I'm not leaving him because of Fox News.

[OhioChick]

133. Nearly all the hospitals in my area have FAUX on in the waiting rooms...

Can't walk out, unfortunately.

[Caoimhe]

134. better yet get a tv b gone

http://www.tvbgone.com/cfe_tvbg_main.php Seems like something everyone should have on their keychain.

[Xenotime]

135. I hate it when people have Rush, Hannity or Beck on..

It burns me up that we have just let the Fairness Doctrine slide away.

[Greyhound]

137. So far every time I ask, the channel is changed. TV is insulting enough,

I won't tolerate Faux.

[Beacool]

139. I'm more likely to walk out if they have MSNBC on.

Haven't watched them in over a year. The night in March 2008 when Olbermann went on a 9 minute diatribe against Hillary for what Geraldine Ferraro had said I switched channels and never tuned back. Don't miss them at all.

:-)

[frogmarch]

142. My husband I have

left restaurants that had Fox on, and we also stopped going to our dentist who had all the new TVs he'd had installed in the individual procedure rooms tuned to Fox. At a cafe in Alliance NE, the owner begrudgingly changed the channel from Fox when we expressed our feelings, but she probably spat in our food before it left the kitchen.

[Zavulon]

145. I wouldn't.

I carry an MP3 player wherever I go. If I don't like what's on TV, I just don't fucking watch.

Seriously, how difficult is that?

I don't refuse to watch actors who don't agree with my politics, and I won't blow off a business I like and consider a good value for the money just because of what's on the TV.

[orleans]

146. i've been requesting a fox channel change for years now

wherever i see it on the telly

[TankLV]

148. I have many times, and I do continually....

I first voice my disgust in a loud voice to make sure the management knows why I'm doing it - after first politely asking them to change the channel...if they don't - I get up and leave and LOUDLY explain why I'm doing it...

Even had the "management" of my FORMER eye doctor come to try to calm me down - but wouldn't change the channel - they lost my business...

It's amazing how many employees or managers can't seem to find the remote...

I will NOT tolerate LIES and REPUKE PROPAGANDA!!!

I'll take CNN's half truths to constant lies and propaganda anytime...

[JNelson6563]

152. Always.

Several years ago I use to have lots of political meetings at a certain coffee shop in town. Until I saw the Hummer they drove and Fox on their TV in the backroom (no TVs in the front of the shop) so I never went back and we had all our subsequent meetings elsewhere.

Julie

[LWolf]

153. I can only think of 2 instances, and both were years ago.

1. In an office waiting for a mammogram; no, I'm not going to walk out.
2. In an office, waiting for an appointment with my tax man. No, I'm not going to walk out.

[nichomachus]

154. People still go to Jiffy Lube?

Yeow -- do you know how many cars they screw up? I'd change my own oil before I'd go there -- and I don't have a clue as to how to even open the hood, never mind change the oil.

I went to the Dr. a few months ago and they had Fox on in the waiting room. When I got in to see him, he mentioned that my blood pressure was a little higher than last time. I told him "Well, it wasn't when I got here, but an hour of listening to that garbage on the TV changed all that. Are you trying to make people sick by having that on?" I explained that studies show that watching news stresses people and raises their blood pressure. (I made that up.) Next time, they had a non-news station on.