Do religious conservatives share blame in Tiller's death? (USA Today)

[babsbunny]

Do religious conservatives share blame in Tiller's death?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-06-02-tiller-abortion_N.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno

By Lindsay Perna and Adelle M. Banks, Religion News Service
With the slaying Sunday of Dr. George Tiller, one of the nation's few late-term abortion doctors, supporters of abortion rights are questioning whether there is a connection between his death and the rhetoric of the abortion opponents' movement.

More to the point, would Tiller have been a victim if abortion rights opponents groups had not made him so prominent?

FAITH & REASON: Murder, morality and democracy: The death of George Tiller
SHOOTING: Details of suspect emerge

[NJmaverick]

1. Hell yeah they are accomplices in this terror attack

[SPedigrees]

2. I hope they share blame in the public's eye. The neocon anti-choice crowd is worried.

[liberalmuse]

3. He absolutely would not have been a victim...

if it weren't for Terry's and O'Reilly's ilk. They better look at their own hands before they start throwing accusations around about others having blood on their hands. They are nothing more than terrorists and they need to be stopped.

[omega minimo]

4. Why are they pretending that's a question?

:freak:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5767293&mesg_id=5767293

[leethompson]

5. Common ground??

In the wake of the murder of abortion provider Dr. George
Tiller, it must be said:

"When it comes to abortion, there really is only one
moral question: Will women be free to determine their own
lives, including whether and when they will bear children, or
will women be subjugated to patriarchal male authority and
forced to breed against their will?"

Read the whole article, by Sunsara Taylor, "The Deadly
Illusion of 'Common Ground' on Abortion - Response to Obama’s
speech at Notre Dame on common ground and abortion" at
http://revcom.us/a/166/ST_on_Obama-en.html

[Dogtown]

6. Yet they loudly applaud the death of this good man

and pray that the assassin is freed.

[WeDidIt]

7. Here's a web site that contributed to it directly

It's a clearing house of information about Tiller, his colleagues, and employees.

Like all of the other accomplices to this terrorist act, the owner of the site is in CYA mode:

http://www.dr-tiller.com/index.htm

I will note, the Freepers have already targeted Tiller's colleague, Dr. Carhart, because he will be taking over the clinic. They linked to the information about Carhart on the above site.

Edited to add: the site owner published information about the church Tiller attended. This is chilling considering the fact that this was where the act of terror took place.

[david13]

8. Absolutely yes. n/t

[gratuitous]

9. Now THERE's a fair-and-balanced account

The USA Today story quotes one person from the People for the American Way, and about half a dozen apologists, excuse-makers, back-fillers and hand-washers in the mold of Pontius Pilate to make the case that heavens no! religious conservatives aren't responsible for Dr. Tiller's assassination. There is exactly one reference to the rhetoric of the repressive right (Tiller the killer), and every other instance of their hateful, violent rhetoric is simply elided.

I look forward to similar treatment from USA Today should Drew Peterson ever be charged with doing away with his fourth wife.

[malaise]

10. Of course they do

Tony Perkins, president of the Washington-based Family Research Council, agreed that it's wrong to connect more peaceful, lawful protests of movements like his with the violence that occurred.

Perkins was a vocal, and frequent, critic of Tiller's campaign contributions to then-Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius before her confirmation as Health and Human Services secretary.

But Perkins said only those on the political left with "twisted minds" would make a direct connection and "try to exploit this event to say that this is the face of the pro-life community. It is not."

While abortion rights opponents targeted Tiller with protests, the Rev. Flip Benham, director of Operation Save America, said the doctor, not abortion opponent groups, placed himself in the public eye.

"He made himself a poster child for abortion and he relished that position," said Benham, who was among the "Summer of Mercy" protesters outside Tiller's Women's Health Care Services clinic in 1991. "George Tiller chose this path."

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but right now supermarkets and pharmacies must be running out of Purex the way these right wing haters are washing their hands.

[bushmeister0]

11. The "centrist" opinion on this tragedy takes hold:

From the article:

"But Schneck said people arguing for or against abortion rights should take stock after the violence and reconsider their language.

'I'm quite sure that as a result of this, we will hear increasing calls to tone down the rhetoric on both sides,' he said. "A little less volume would be very good for both camps."

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Seems to me the only ones calling for the murder of these doctors, the only ones acid attacking, blowing up and blocking abortion clinics are on the other side. I don't hear too many pro-choice types calling for "reverend" Land & Co.'s death.

Both sides aren't eqaul. One side kills, the other side supports a legal medical procedure.

[WeDidIt]

12. That's rightwing bullshit

They just don't want their terrorism called terrorism is all.

[TexasObserver]

13. Yes,

[jotsy]

14. boil it down

In a word its communication.
We use it to sell, to inform, entertain, and yes, absolutely to influence. Surely the experts at fixed noise understand that basic a concept. So I think it safe to say their desires are clear from their manner of message delivery. It is designed to incite and therefore toxic. The right wing media is as guilty as the sins they preach against. While they do not stand alone, they are the most visible strand of some kind of "belief braid" thats folded in with the church and the corporateers.
If the corporatist war against the average citizen doesn't get acknowledged and addressed, people without a sense of substance and purpose in other avenues of their lives might be more likely to look at a crazed and desperate act as their only means of being memorable.
If the church had been more about faith and less about religion, if centuries of blood hadn't been spilled in the name of God over an endless list of causes, as a species we might come to understand how to benefit from and ultimately flourish in a world where understanding and individual rights are the principles that reign supreme.
I dare say any deity deemed deserving would want to have designed a species sentient enough to find their way to a simple harmony.
As much shame as I want to wish on all you rabid confrontation mongering pack of word wizard weasels, I'd rather you learn to extend the respect you think you deserve and tell a just truth between your biased rants. You represent nothing more than a stain on the landscape of communication, a bloody one.
Wear that well the next time you're at Gucci's easing the conscience you used to have.