Mr. Ected
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Tue Jun-02-09 03:52 PM
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Will the Pro-Choice, Anti-Choice Arguments Still Plague Us in 2109? |
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It seems to me that there is no middle ground to this issue.
Will we ever outgrow this?
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Tue Jun-02-09 03:53 PM
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1. They will be trotted out every election cycle... |
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Same as it ever was... same as it ever was...
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Tue Jun-02-09 03:54 PM
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100 years of bio-technical advances will make abortion a thing of the past. Termination of a pregnancy will no longer mean termination of the fetus.
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Tue Jun-02-09 04:25 PM
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6. What about late term abortions of an already dead fetus? |
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Which rethugs want to be illegal. Unless they cure death I don't see this problem going away
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Tue Jun-02-09 04:28 PM
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8. Rationality will rule in those cases |
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Simply by altering the language, those cases will be dealt with easily.
It's a miscarriage with tissue remaining in utero.
That's how it was described pre-Roe.
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Tue Jun-02-09 04:29 PM
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Unless women who want to have abortions are going to be forced to put an embryo or fetus up for some kind of adoption, there will always be abortion.
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Tue Jun-02-09 05:23 PM
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12. I'm saying the choice will be |
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giving up your fetus to be grown via artifical means or carrying the pregnancy to term.
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Tue Jun-02-09 05:55 PM
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However, there will be women who want neither to carry the pregnancy to term NOR to give up the fetus to be grown via artificial means. And unless these women are forced to "give up" their fetuses in such a way, there will always be abortion.
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Tue Jun-02-09 06:03 PM
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14. You might want to read Roe v. Wade |
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Pay attantion to the state's compelling interest and viability.
Once we are able to grow a fetus from conception artifically, every pregnancy is viable from the point of conception and thus there is a compelling state interest, ergo, fetuses will no longer be terminated. They will simply be transplanted.
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Tue Jun-02-09 07:03 PM
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16. And thus the return to back-alley abortions. |
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No technological advancement will eliminate abortion or the debate about it.
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Tue Jun-02-09 07:06 PM
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18. Once a fetus is demonstrably viable from conception |
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there is no legal instrument to allow the termination of any fetus. Roe fails at that point and the state's compelling interest takes over.
You would require either a constitutional amendment or a new SCOTUS decision or both to overcome that fact.
I don't see either as forthcoming in the next century. Technology will outstrip constitutional law more quickly.
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Tue Jun-02-09 07:45 PM
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22. Which is why I mentioned "back-alley" abortions. |
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My point is, if your scenario comes to pass, there WILL be women who will seek the proverbial coat-hanger before they would allow their embryo/fetus to be incubated and raised. Abortion isn't going away.
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Tue Jun-02-09 07:55 PM
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23. I seriously doubt that |
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Bio-technology for contraception will improve even more dramatically than the ability to preserve a fetus outside the uterus.
Furthermore, males will gain a strong measure of control in the contraception decision as methods to prevent impregnation from the male side will improve dramatically.
The combination of the two will make the rate of unwanted pregnancies drop to nearly zero.
The vast majority of pregnancies where the pregnancy is terminated and the fetus is raised artifically will be planned. Furthermore, death from childbirth will drop to nearly zero due to advances in the understanding of key indicator factors that lead to a higher risk of death during childbirth and the utilization of artifical means to continue the pregnancy.
It will be a very different world from the one we currently find ourselves in.
I base these predictions not only on tchnological, but also the incredible rate of increase in how fast technological advances come.
Compare our reproductive medical care now to the care available in 1909. Now compare 1909 to 1809 and you'll see what I'm getting at.
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Tue Jun-02-09 08:08 PM
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24. I don't believe that technology will ever overcome the simple human factor |
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when it comes to sexual behavior and preventing pregnancy, though I must admit being fascinated by the Brave New World-esque scenario.
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Tue Jun-02-09 03:57 PM
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3. As long as there is a republican party |
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Tue Jun-02-09 05:11 PM
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11. As long as there are churches |
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Tue Jun-02-09 04:03 PM
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4. Legislating religious obligations is much easier than performing them. |
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It's like doing something without getting your hands dirty by actually, you know, helping
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Tue Jun-02-09 04:10 PM
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reproductive rights are settled law. Have been for 36 years. :sarcasm:
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Tue Jun-02-09 04:26 PM
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7. Cheney will still plague us in 2109. |
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All the rest will have passed away.
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Tue Jun-02-09 05:01 PM
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10. Not after women take over governing |
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Tue Jun-02-09 06:13 PM
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15. No, by that time we'll be ruled by apes |
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Tue Jun-02-09 07:04 PM
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17. Won't be an issue after 2012 |
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Tue Jun-02-09 07:21 PM
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19. If you remain as STUPID as you are now... YES. |
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Ignorance is educable. Stupid is forever.
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Tue Jun-02-09 07:23 PM
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20. In 2109 most of us here |
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will be dead. Does it matter?
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Tue Jun-02-09 07:33 PM
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