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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:19 PM Original message |
I Was Fooled by DU |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. That's. Nice. |
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Richd506 (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
158. So if I still support Obama, does that mean I'm abandoning my principles? |
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jakeXT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #158 |
192. I was surprised when Dennis Kucinich endorsed Obama, while Ron Paul couldn't do it with McCain |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
162. Not all speech is protected. |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Is this one of those dramatic "goodbye" posts? |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Hopefully... |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
232. that was ugly and completely unnecessary, nt |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Nahhh, no such luck. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. there is much truth in your OP |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Your unwillingess to hold hate-mongers accountable is what is damning. Apparently you think |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. I don't think it is about non-accountablity |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:50 PM Original message |
correct |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
57. it seems we forget |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
211. well I think it is a double standard too |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #211 |
241. You make a good point. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #211 |
247. it's one of the lessons of DU, dear hfojvt. You exemplify it. Pays it forward. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. false |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
203. The thing is some speech IS Illegal |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #203 |
213. Well, my OP was about more than just the Tiller murder, |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #213 |
222. I respect your opinion.... |
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madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. Awe, hang in there. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
58. Good for you! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
82. I'm glad you're not leaving. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #82 |
102. Me, too. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
134. I don't care about who is president or what party prevails. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #134 |
242. When the majority of citizens |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
195. Crap |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #195 |
202. On ignore? Moi'? |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. no, just a DUer speaking his/her mind. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
84. No, just a little |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #84 |
131. how do you figure? |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. There is truth in what you say. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. There is also lie in it. |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Ya, there is that as well. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. And a lot of bull, too. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Agree with me or you don't really care about civil liberty!" |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Care about civil liberties or |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Civil Liberties doesn't mean just sitting idle while others call for your execution. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
65. WTF? Two wrongs are twice as wrong. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
85. Calls for immeidate action like violence are not protected. n/t |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #85 |
160. thank you |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. And the thrashing begins. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. agreed |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. It's easier to casually dismiss the observation than admit there's truth in it. /nt |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. Amazing isn't it? |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
154. Damn right. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
174. +1! |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. You seem unable to discern the difference between the right to say something... |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Of course. I agree with everything you said. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Then I must not be seeing what you are. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
114. When I write he is responsible in part for Mr Tiller's murder, that does not mean he should be |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
132. Close but no cigar :) |
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sohndrsmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
234. I've boycotted FOX for over a year, after his statement about Michelle Obama |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm not seeing what you're seeing here. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. I didn't say ALL or EVERY DUer. I'm only |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
79. You did imply it was a majority of DU'ers |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #79 |
127. I took the "minority" part to refer to the broad range of issues |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
13. Melodrama fail |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. I know how you feel. I think Obama has been somewhat of a disappointment to many. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. If Frank Schaeffer apologizes and explains why, how can you pretend RW pundits are not complicit? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
87. Maybe people are confusing criminal or legal responsibility with ethical or moral |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. Look, the Far Right is an ORGANIZED NETWORK. From top down. This isn't some incidental bunch |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
59. it's is a conspriracy |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
22. What do you mean? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. I certainly don't see it that way. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. It's not a lack of free speech here that I'm talking about. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. And you believe that having the capability to harangue people into |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
115. I would like to read an answer to that from the OP. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #115 |
130. OK |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #130 |
207. Are you aware of our "hate" crimes laws about which many Christians are worried? |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #207 |
215. Actually, that's not the subject that has most aroused me. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #215 |
219. And I'm with you on Bush/Cheney . . . many here are . . . |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
26. What a load of self serving crapola! |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Well, I take a harder line on those issues than you |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. How do you know? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
88. We really do need an irony smilie. |
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choie (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
103. The OP is absolutely right |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
28. Deleted message |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
32. "the insistence that right-wing pundits are complicit in the murder of Dr. Tiller |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Taking issue with the posts that argue that Bill O Reilly bears some of the blame for |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. What... just for his years-long crusade against him? |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. To clarify: criminally complicit no. Morally complicit, yes. nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. And your issue is what... that we shouldn't discuss it? |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
97. I'm fine with people talking about it. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Hate Speech is Hate Speech |
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Fiendish Thingy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #46 |
183. Under the Constitution, Hate Speech is protected speech |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #183 |
218. That's pretty stupid, going in circles, since this Hate Speech CALLS FOR VIOLENCE |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #218 |
220. That may be your definition, but I'm not sure everyone |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #220 |
224. . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
208. I think it's a "pro-lifer" concerned about holding them accountable . . . |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
33. Hang tough -- |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
35. Did you see the Rachael Maddow |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
36. Depends on your defintion of DU |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
100. that hierarchy of needs makes the OPs point: |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
38. While you speak the truth, there are plenty here, like me, who have spoken out |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
40. Those bandwagon-jumpers won the election. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. and people who voted for change had nothing to do with it. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Strawman |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Oooooh! Condescension! |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
95. Thank you Will. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
110. That's what friends do. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
41. Saying right wingers are complicit is not a free speech issue |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. it's a fact |
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Fiendish Thingy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
182. What if one of the readers of the "child molester" flyer then killed |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
237. Excellent point |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
49. I keep seeing these posts about the 'sanctity' of DU... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Exactly. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
51. Well ...there are Reagan Dems here ...and some DLC luvrs ...and some DINO's too. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
55. Inciting violence has never been protected speech. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
60. I came here for context and stayed for the beer and pretzels. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
61. The longer we refuse to leave, the more it irritates them. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Ain't that the truth! |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #61 |
106. Heh, very well said indeed! nt |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #61 |
238. Well... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
62. DU has taken a hard right and those who don't follow along are being driven out. nt |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. hah . Id like to see them try to drive me out. fat chance . nt |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Well, one of my posts was deleted from this thread... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
136. If we refuse to be driven, they lose and they don't know how to deal with that. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
66. Me too! When I first came here, I thought this was a site about Depleted Uranium |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
68. Well....Bye |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Great Movie! |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:37 AM Response to Reply #68 |
137. No such luck. We will endure, if for no other reason than to irritate you. n/t |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #68 |
185. Curley Bill For the Win! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
69. Right-wing pundits ARE complicit in the murder of Dr. Tiller. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. I may be a bit out of the loop, |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. He has been walking as close to that line as possible for years, |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. thanks |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #89 |
157. it's not what they say |
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twitomy (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #157 |
169. Yeah, those slick graphics, and background music, |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #169 |
227. you'd be surprised |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:29 AM Response to Reply #78 |
146. and someone supports that? nt |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. . |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #80 |
239. Oh, dear god stop promoting your thread |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. Don't forget Julius Striecher |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #69 |
133. o'reilly didn't tell anyone to kill anyone. incitement to hate isn't the same thing |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #133 |
210. Demonizing is the first step in encouraging violence against a class of people . . . |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
73. Always nice to have my mind read |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
75. I've been having similar thoughts |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
76. DU didn't fool you, the NARWHAL behind you did... |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
248. Doh! |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
77. Many of us will never find the "perfect" community. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
83. I'm still here are those are still my issues. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
86. When politics trump the constitution we are no longer |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:42 AM Response to Reply #86 |
138. A very good reason to fight to the bitter end. The Right Wing Authoritarians |
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Akoto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
90. Nice broad brush. Sorry that we're not all so enlightened. n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:44 AM Response to Reply #90 |
139. If you're sorry why not try to see the point? n/t |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #139 |
147. what point? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #147 |
197. It seems to me that the basic point is about Party over principles. Politics is not a team sport. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #197 |
212. Americans have long been taught that politics and religion are not fit for ... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
91. Still here. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. ^^Outstanding post^^ |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Eh... yup. Me too...n/t |
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solstice (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #91 |
113. A-fucking-MEN. |
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AnotherDreamWeaver (917 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
116. Hey, me three... |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #91 |
119. How can a party that doesn't follow your own policies |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #91 |
122. Bravo! Another post I wish I could K & R. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:48 AM Response to Reply #91 |
141. Hear, hear! n/t |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:39 AM Response to Reply #91 |
148. that split has been there since day one.... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:56 AM Response to Reply #91 |
152. Yup, and yup. . Oh, and (btw) |
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Richd506 (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #91 |
159. I support everything you say here |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #91 |
172. +1000000 |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #91 |
176. GREAT POST! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #91 |
243. Thank you. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
93. Deleted message |
Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Thanks James! |
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AnotherDreamWeaver (917 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #96 |
117. WTF? You have thanked someone for what they said, yet it's deleted? |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #117 |
231. It's just the way it is, random in some ways, in others (albeit rarely) cause for concern |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
98. Love It Or Leave It. eom |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:47 AM Response to Reply #98 |
140. Sarcasm? n/t |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
99. Ummm...Are you reading the same DU that I am? |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
101. Good OP.nt |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
104. ^rec ~ |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
105. Perhaps for you it is. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Disclaimer: I only speak for me, and the things I say |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Same here. I know less about more every damned day. |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
108. dreary...tiresome |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
111. Don't Get Fooled Again |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. ah, but most complaints are not that he hasn't "fixed everything" |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #118 |
186. Why Stop at Pinochet & Tojo - Surely Obama is Worthy of Hitler |
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solstice (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
112. Hey, I feel exactly the same way. You get attacked if you dare to criticize Obama on the exact same |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
120. The Honeymoon Should Be Over |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
121. You've always been |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #121 |
198. Thanks Chill! That means a lot! |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
123. If you think that advocating murder is okay, then fuck you and the trojan horse you rode in on. |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
124. Inciting murder is not protected speech. |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
125. They sure are complicit, if they single that Doctor by name and called him a baby killer |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
126. I have come to the conclusion that many of the DUers I have |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #126 |
165. Don't you think that he is trying to solve many problems and will need time? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
128. there is a sickening lack of commitment to any principle save power |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:55 AM Response to Reply #128 |
142. I'm hoping for "politics is not a team sport", too. n/t |
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DRex (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
129. K&R amigo |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
135. I think that some of the people who are disappointing you |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
143. Part of it might just be relief |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #143 |
199. That's a very reasonable explanation. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #199 |
230. yes I am disappointed in those too |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
144. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #144 |
177. Deleted message |
JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
145. Wow. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #145 |
200. I work within the Party locally |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #200 |
223. Not in long? |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #223 |
229. Can I not be involved in and care about both |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
149. I'm there with you on government accountability, free speech, etc. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
150. Not Everybody |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
151. I hear what you say and feel your pain! n/t |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
153. When I found DU, I was told it was "an anti- Dean site" but |
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twitomy (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
155. Amen! |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
156. I tried to post about this on the day of the murder when people here called for "waterboarding" |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
161. DU is not a monolith. So i'm not sure what it is that you were "fooled by". |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
163. You were fooled by somebody, alright .... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
164. There are people on this site who are the Dem equivalent |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #164 |
167. Court packing plan is a terrible example. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #167 |
184. Of course, not all his ideas worked, but he was determined to do things |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
166. It is a far, far better thing that I go to than I have ever done. |
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montanto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
168. I've come to realize that I'm in the minority here on issues like government accountability . . ." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #168 |
216. Ah, but a very strong and very well grounded minority . . . |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
170. Don't worry. we're all here. and with you. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
171. I could see how you were fooled |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
173. You propped up Bill O and dissed Obama at the same time |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
175. I guess people don't have all the same ideas on everything as you |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
178. I try to keep in mind... |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
179. I guess you can spend more time on CounterPunch then |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
180. BAAAAWWWWW |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
181. Yeah |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
187. I wonder how many people really thought critically about Bush/Cheney |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
188. So, who on DU isn't in favor of free speech? |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #188 |
189. Court case re: warrantless wiretapping is to be held in Sept. |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
190. A lot of people agree with you. ...another K&R. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
191. I think the majority are concerned about these issues... nt |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #191 |
206. You may be right and I may be wrong |
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dem mba (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
193. preach on brutha |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-07-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #193 |
249. Belated Welcome to DU! |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
194. This is slightly reminiscent of this: |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. Heh |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
201. ...this board is about big "D" Democratic Party . . . not small "d" democracy . . . |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #201 |
204. I didn't mention Randall Terry in my OP, nor |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #204 |
217. Come on... you used his phrase "a teaching moment" and put it in quotes . . .!!! |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #217 |
221. Actually I didn't know Terry used that phrase. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #221 |
233. Why did you put it in quotes . . . ??? |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 03:36 AM Response to Reply #233 |
235. because it's a dorky phrase that I wouldn't use except |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #235 |
246. Here's the video of Randall Terry using that quote . . from 6/2/09 |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
205. Thank you T2T. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
209. Hate radio IS responsible. Sorry if you can't see that. |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
214. The thing is some speech IS Illegal |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
225. Welcome to DU! |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #225 |
226. Ha. Ya know, |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
228. You are part of DU as am I and many others - some are corporate whores, some look deeper. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #228 |
240. Deleted message |
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245. The Only Things I consider above reproach is the Constitution and the Rule Of Law |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
236. This "The American President" scene says it all: |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
244. . |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-07-09 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
250. Commentary on your whine: You were doing well with the Hate Obama crowd... |
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