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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 12:38 AM
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Listen to the words of Robert F. Kennedy - listen very carefully.
On June 5, 1968 he was shot and he was pronounced dead on June 6. On June 6, 1966 he was speaking with anti-apartheid students and activists in Capetown who were called terrorists and commies and so by others in the ruling elite there and in the US for many more decades:

Here's a link to the text with an audio (mp3) link so you can really hear him: http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/rfkcapetown.htm

Here are some of his words in that one speech:

Each nation has different obstacles and different goals, shaped by the vagaries of history and of experience. Yet as I talk to young people around the world, I am impressed not by the diversity but by the closeness of their goals, their desires and their concerns and their hope for the future. There is discrimination in New York, the racial inequality of apartheid in South Africa, and serfdom in the mountains of Peru. People starve to death in the streets of India; a former Prime Minister is summarily executed in the Congo; intellectuals go to jail in Russia, and thousands are slaughtered in Indonesia; wealth is lavished on armaments everywhere in the world.

These are different evils, but they are the common works of man. They reflect the imperfections of human justice, the inadequacy of human compassion, the defectiveness of our sensibility toward the sufferings of our fellows; they mark the limit of our ability to use knowledge for the well-being of our fellow human beings throughout the world. And therefore they call upon common qualities of conscience and indignation, a shared determination to wipe away the unnecessary sufferings of our fellow human beings at home and around the world.

It is these qualities which make of our youth today the only true international community. More than this, I think that we could agree on what kind of a world we would all want to build. It would be a world of independent nations, moving toward international community, each of which protected and respected the basic human freedoms. It would be a world which demanded of each government that it accept its responsibility to insure social justice. It would be a world of constantly accelerating economic progress -- not material welfare as an end in/of itself, but as a means to liberate the capacity of every human being to pursue his talents and to pursue his hopes. It would, in short, be a world that we would all be proud to have built.

...

"There is," said an Italian philosopher,¹ "nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the -- in the introduction of a new order of things." Yet this is the measure of the task of your generation, and the road is strewn with many dangers.

First, is the danger of futility: the belief there is nothing one man or one woman can do against the enormous array of the world's ills -- against misery, against ignorance, or injustice and violence. Yet many of the world's great movements, of thought and action, have flowed from the work of a single man. A young monk began the Protestant Reformation, a young general extended an empire from Macedonia to the borders of the earth, and a young woman reclaimed the territory of France. It was a young Italian explorer who discovered the New World, and 32 year-old Thomas Jefferson who proclaimed that "all men are created equal."

...

The second danger is that of expediency: of those who say that hopes and beliefs must bend before immediate necessities. Of course, if we must act effectively we must deal with the world as it is. We must get things done. But if there was one thing that President Kennedy stood for that touched the most profound feeling of young people around the world, it was the belief that idealism, high aspirations, and deep convictions are not incompatible with the most practical and efficient of programs -- that there is no basic inconsistency between ideals and realistic possibilities, no separation between the deepest desires of heart and of mind and the rational application of human effort to human problems. It is not realistic or hardheaded to solve problems and take action unguided by ultimate moral aims and values, although we all know some who claim that it is so. In my judgment, it is thoughtless folly. For it ignores the realities of human faith and of passion and of belief -- forces ultimately more powerful than all of the calculations of our economists or of our generals. Of course to adhere to standards, to idealism, to vision in the face of immediate dangers takes great courage and takes self-confidence. But we also know that only those who dare to fail greatly, can ever achieve greatly.

...

And a third danger is timidity. Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change the world -- which yields most painfully to change. Aristotle tells us: "At the Olympic games it is not the finest or the strongest men who are crowned, but those who enter the lists." "So too in the life of the honorable and the good it is they who act rightly who win the prize."² I believe that in this generation those with the courage to enter the conflict will find themselves with companions in every corner of the world.

For the fortunate amongst us, the fourth danger, my friends, is comfort, the temptation to follow the easy and familiar paths of personal ambition and financial success so grandly spread before those who have the privilege of an education. But that is not the road history has marked out for us. There is a Chinese curse which says, "May he live in interesting times." Like it or not we live in interesting times. They are times of danger and uncertainty; but they are also the most creative of any time in the history of mankind. And everyone here will ultimately be judged, will ultimately judge himself, on the effort he has contributed to building a new world society and the extent to which his ideals and goals have shaped that effort.


And watch this video of how Bobby addressed a crowd gathered in Indianapolis to cheer his campaign after learning as he traveled that Dr. King had just been murdered and needing to tell them of the assassination. His advisers told him to cancel but he insisted he had the duty to speak. Indianapolis was one of few major cities that did not give way to angry and destructive rage in response to that painful event. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPYNb4ex6Ko

There is much more audio with accompanying text at: http://www.angelfire.com/pa4/kennedy/speech.html
The audio at that site uses Real Audio files, so you will need Real Player or substitute. I recommend the free open source and completely benign Real Alternative. Read about and get it here: http://codecguide.com/about_real.htm

This is the voice that was murdered 41 years ago today. That was a voice that has never again been heard in the ruling circles of the US power structure since then. We may be again hearing some faint resonances of that voice today. We hope so, but it's hard to hear it clearly and know with any certainty.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 01:04 AM
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1. Great post.
"That was a voice that has never again been heard in the ruling circles of the US power structure since then."

That's very true, but it's good to remember that a scant few years before that, RFK was not particularly progressive. He played politics for keeps, though, and he paid careful attention to the tenor of his times. That he emerged finally as an idealist with the smarts and bare-knuckle skills to get where he'd decided he wanted to be, with a vision of things that would have set the nation and the world on a very different path seems doubly praiseworthy, because he didn't start his political life there. His ideas evolved.

Even politicians can get radicalized. I can think of one right now I wish would get a little more radicalized, but he's deft and cogent and pragmatic. In that, he reminds me a bit of RFK.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 01:20 AM
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3. RFK changed a lot after November 1963.
So did Teddy.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 01:29 AM
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4. Good point.
One might go so far as to say that November 1963 changed everything. And nobody had to address a joint session of Congress to try to claim it was so. Everyone knew it.

The next real date that will have "changed everything" will no doubt be sponsored by some foul-smelling "male body wash" and some new "x-treme" flavor of tortilla chips. In the meantime, they'll have to keep sponsoring the fake ones.

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 01:52 AM
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5. I think his brother's murder gave him two choices.
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 02:25 AM by ConsAreLiars
I think JFK and RFK were both genuinely interested in promoting the greater good. Both pragmatists about it, but honest in their intent. My guess is that after the assassination Bobby decided that he had two options. To withdraw, or to to be totally forthright and candid about his views, and stop "playing politics" in either case. Sheer speculation, but I've never seen anyone since who was so totally honest about his ideals and values.

As for Obama, I really like to believe he is the most brilliant chess player since the game of politics came into being and that his values and beliefs are totally on the side of serving the greater good, and there is plenty of evidence that this might be the case. Or not. Yet he invited/allowed Pete Seeger to play at the inaugural "We Are One" concert. Including the "socialist verses" to "This Land is Our Land." My lifetime SO recently moved into my house and we watched that concert together and it again brought tears to my eyes. No other president would have even allowed half that concert to be performed (Bruce Springstein, a gay men's chorus and so many black artists) under their name, and now the speech in Cairo. I remain both completely hopeful and skeptical.

(edit tiny, but almost inevitable, typo)
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:19 AM
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9. Beautifully put. I'm pretty much on that same page.
The pragmatism so far has been occasionally dazzling. What I yearn for is a clear arc above events and into a very different future. That's what the "change" mantra meant to me. That's what I voted for. Your hope/skepticism dichotomy captures my mood perfectly.

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:55 AM
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15. Yes
www.clearwater.org
Pete Seeger is a good man. I think the world of Obama as well.
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JenniferJuniper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 01:05 AM
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2. This country has never recovered from the loss
The Crucifixion - Phil Ochs

And the night comes again to the circle studded sky
The stars settle slowly, in loneliness they lie
'Till the universe explodes as a falling star is raised
Planets are paralyzed, mountains are amazed
But they all glow brighter from the brilliance of the blaze
With the speed of insanity, then he dies.

In the green fields a turnin', a baby is born
His cries crease the wind and mingle with the morn
An assault upon the order, the changing of the guard
Chosen for a challenge that is hopelessly hard
And the only single sound is the sighing of the stars
But to the silence of distance they are sworn

So dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

Images of innocence charge him go on
But the decadence of destiny is looking for a pawn
To a nightmare of knowledge he opens up the gate
And a blinding revelation is laid upon his plate
That beneath the greatest love is a hurricane of hate
And God help the critic of the dawn.

So he stands on the sea and he shouts to the shore,
But the louder that he screams the longer he's ignored
For the wine of oblivion is drunk to the dregs
And the merchants of the masses almost have to be begged
'Till the giant is aware, someone's pulling at his leg,
And someone is tapping at the door.

To dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

Then his message gathers meaning and it spreads across the land
The rewarding of his fame is the following of the man
But ignorance is everywhere and people have their way
Success is an enemy to the losers of the day
In the shadows of the churches, who knows what they pray
For blood is the language of the band.

The Spanish bulls are beaten; the crowd is soon beguiled,
The matador is beautiful, a symphony of style
Excitement is ecstatic, passion places bets
Gracefully he bows to ovations that he gets
But the hands that are applauding are slippery with sweat
And saliva is falling from their smiles

So dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

Then this overflow of life is crushed into a liar
The gentle soul is ripped apart and tossed into the fire.
First a smile of rejection at the nearness of the night
Truth becomes a tragedy limping from the light
All the heavens are horrified, they stagger from the sight
As the cross is trembling with desire.

They say they can't believe it, it's a sacrilegious shame
Now, who would want to hurt such a hero of the game?
But you know I predicted it; I knew he had to fall
How did it happen? I hope his suffering was small.
Tell me every detail, I've got to know it all,
And do you have a picture of the pain?

So dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

Time takes her toll and the memory fades
but his glory is growing in the magic that he made.
Reality is ruined; it's the freeing from the fear
The drama is distorted, to what they want to hear
Swimming in their sorrow, and the twisting of a tear
As they wait for a new thrill parade.

The eyes of the rebel have been branded by the blind
To the safety of sterility, the threat has been refined
The child was created to the slaughterhouse he's led
So good to be alive when the eulogy is read
The climax of emotion, the worship of the dead
And the cycle of sacrifice unwinds.

So dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

And the night comes again to the circle studded sky
The stars settle slowly, in loneliness they lie
'Till the universe explodes as a falling star is raised
Planets are paralyzed, mountains are amazed
But they all glow brighter from the brilliance of the blaze
With the speed of insanity, then he dies.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:24 AM
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10. Thank you. Phil Ochs is the absolute best of that time in telling the truth.
For those who don't have any idea and reading poetry is hard, youtube has a few of the first verses at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-bL3YbG_Lg . Listen carefully to Ochs as well as RFK.

For those who don't know, there are a hundred and more song texts at http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/ochs/lyrics.html . Reading every one will be far more instructive than the same time spent reading anything else, if you read with an open heart. And plug in Phil Ochs in the Youtube search. There is a voice there, like RFK's, whose absence has made us poorer.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 02:16 AM
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24. On 11/22/63, America became a banana republic! n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 01:55 AM
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6. "The Awful Grace of God": Robert Kennedy on MLK, April 4, 1968
... I have some very sad news for all of you, and I think sad news for all of our fellow citizens, and people who love peace all over the world, and that is that Martin Luther King was shot and was killed tonight ... Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice between fellow human beings. He died in the cause of that effort. In this difficult day, in this difficult time for the United States, it's perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are and what direction we want to move ... What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer ... http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/the-awful-grace.html

<with link to audio>
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 01:57 AM
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7. Thank you for remembering, ConsAreLiars.
Here's another resource to add to your excellent post:

Speeches of Robert F. Kennedy

Like ripples...

Wow, 41 years, already. Seems impossible.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:44 AM
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12. Thank you, Octafish
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 02:52 AM by ConsAreLiars
I am a great admirer of your tireless work to help others understand "who rules and how" and the very, very real history of control over the US State apparatus. You sort out facts from allegations and remain totally fact-based without getting suckered into going off the edge into the land of delusions. The research you have presented here is fist-rate and extremely valuable.

Edit to add: here's the link to Octafish's journal. Read it: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Octafish
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:04 AM
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8. The America we know of today would not exist if JFK, MLK, and RFK had lived.
They died, and as a result, our country took the current course it has been on for the last several decades. I truly believe had they lived, this country would be a better place overall than what it currently is.

Instead, we've been cursed with greed and mediocre leadership.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 11:26 PM
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23. No doubt greed and mediocre leadership were instrumental in their deaths
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:26 AM
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11. Thanks for the post.
I think his voice still resonates today.

:kick:
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voc Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:59 AM
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13. I listened carefully
Kick and rec.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:50 AM
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14. Thank you and welcome to DU
There is a lot of totally useless noise here, and a lot of very insightful and well-informed commentary and analysis. It needs a bit of parsing, but in reading DU you will find much of value and more than a few very worth looking for. I won't try to list them, and your list may vary, but the recs provide a good hint.
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voc Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:40 AM
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16. I did notice
The need to parse as well as the noise. Thanks for the welcome.
I have learned a great deal so far. Interesting board.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:10 AM
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17. I miss him as much today
if not more. He had the heart to grow, and after 1963 he listened to it as much as his pragmatic head. I don't think

that people who weren't alive then realize the enormity of the loss and why is is still so keenly felt.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:56 AM
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18. Makes me want to agitate to draft JFK Jr.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:12 AM
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19. Thank you so much for this post
I am old enough to remember quite vividly the assassinations of the Kennedy brothers and the Rev. King. To those of you who were yet to be born, it's so damned difficult to fashion into words the hope and the horror that was the 60's, the voices that were raised and those that were forever silenced. The passion of youths from Birmingham to Chicago, from San Francisco to the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, who took to the streets to demand freedom and justice for all men and women of this nation and world, declared one war on poverty while demanding the end to an unjust war half a world away -- and in the process, risked everything, including their lives.

You said, "We may be again hearing some faint resonances of that voice today." Perhaps the pain of the 60's is too strong, but the resonances are, for me, also too faint to raise my hopes. Where are the feet in the street demanding an end to the oppression of our GLBT brothers and sisters? What happened to the voices not pleading for but demanding an end to unjust wars, wars that are not ending but expanding, while the war on poverty has been surrendered to the parasitic powerbrokers of Wall Street? Has the election of one man served only to silence us, to pacify us, so those who forever silenced John and Bobby and Malcolm and Martin can continue their business as usual?

Think and remember, think and remember. We may never see their like again....
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:03 PM
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20. K&R
Thanks for this reminder.

The Fourth Reich stopped him cold.

I sure as hell wish Obama would open up the files and get the truth on these assassinations...

but I know he has a full plate

problem is

letting the real killers off the hook by "looking forward and not backward"

leaves the real killers loose to kill more

and to kill again
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:47 PM
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21. K&R
:kick:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 11:25 PM
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22. K&R. I remember that campaign...and that day like it was yesterday.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 02:27 AM
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25. Me too, but more like was in a far distant past when we ("America') still had
the chance to choose to become a force for good rather than become mass murderers on a global scale. That possibility was killed with Robert Kennedy, and the years since then have shown that every president since then, including now, chose mass slaughtering of innocents over challenging and reducing the power of the multinational capitalists they have served.
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