Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

'Global warming is baloney' signs put the heat on Burger King

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:21 PM
Original message
'Global warming is baloney' signs put the heat on Burger King
Source: The Guardian



A row between the fast food giant Burger King and one of its major franchise owners has erupted over roadside signs proclaiming "global warming is baloney". The franchisee, a Memphis-based company called the Mirabile Investment Corporation (MIC) that owns more than 40 Burger Kings across Tennessee, Arkansas and Mississippi, has described Burger King as acting "kinda like cockroaches" over the controversy. MIC says it does not believe Burger King has the authority to make it take the signs down.

The dispute began to sizzle last week, when a local newspaper reporter in Memphis, Tennessee, noticed the signs outside two restaurants in the city and contacted the corporation to establish if the message represented its official viewpoint. Burger King's headquarters in Miami said it did not, adding that it had ordered MIC to take the signs down.

But a few days later readers of the Memphis paper said they had seen about a dozen Burger King restaurants across the state displaying the signs and that some had yet to be taken down. Media attempts to contact MIC to establish why it was taking an apparently defiant stance were rebuffed, but the Guardian managed to grill MIC's marketing president, John McNelis.

"I would think would run from any form of controversy kinda like cockroaches when the lights get turned on," said Mr McNelis. "I'm not aware of any direction that they gave the franchisee and I don't think they have the authority to do it." McNelis added: "The management team can put the message up there if they want to. It is private property and here in the US we do have some rights. Notwithstanding a franchise agreement, I could load a Brinks vehicle with I've got so many of them. By the time the Burger King lawyers work out how to make that stick we'd be in the year 2020."

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/05/burger-king-global-warming-us



Aside from being stupid (and apparently catering to the stupid) my bet is that the franchisees are going to learn an expensive legal lesson about these sorts of contracts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:32 PM
Response to Original message
1. He can put up any sign he likes
just as soon as he breaks the franchise contract and removes anything that gives the customer the impression that they are walking into a Burger King. That includes not only the name of the franchise, but ANY "brand" material, up to and including the color scheme, uniforms of the crew, the physical layout of the restaurant, etc.

I once worked for a CAD company who had a architect firm as a client that did NOTHING but design McDonald's franchises to "conform" to franchise agreements. The amount of variation from franchise to franchise was very, very limited. All enforced by franchise contract.

On the plus side, the architect firm was located in Windsor, Canada... and it was almost entirely staffed by young women... I volunteered to go troubleshoot their CAD systems anytime they wanted!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. I bet there's a clause in there about disparaging the brand
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. You've seen the commercials, how can you disparage the King? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. ....
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #6
34. Is anyone else as creeped out as I am by those commercials?
That "King" character is absolutely freakish.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:36 PM
Response to Original message
2. That would be enough to make me drive past.
What idiots. Figures it happens in Memphis, however. Some of these states never cease to wonder when it comes to having their heads up their asses in mass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
3. Wait... is that English that he's speaking?
I couldn't make sense of most of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
4. I would expect this to prompt some response signs.


Burger King is full of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. "Burger King is contributing
to Global Warming".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:19 PM
Response to Original message
8. Warmed over baloney would be better than their burgers.
So maybe they can rework the slogan and their menu.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:25 PM
Response to Original message
9. wow. a climate specialist and a home for other whoppers
I'd love to see this franchise owner go at it with an actual scientist. the burger king would end up in a (metaphorical) bloody pulp - which could then be char-broiled and served your way.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
11. i know i sure as hell wouldn't be going there
my attitude would be more like: FUCK YOU!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
12. Even our burger franchises are not safe
from the dumbfuckery that prevails in the south. (No offense to Southern DUers.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:49 PM
Response to Original message
13. That sign says "I am an idiot" to 95% of the people who drive by, and turns off customers.
More power to them. Keep the sign up forever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #13
30. Exactly, I'd avoid that place like the plague
I don't know what kind of new business the owner is trying to attract, but it can't be lucrative.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 10:31 PM
Response to Original message
14. Selling Whoppers
Is there business
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. Is there business
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 11:43 PM by AlbertCat
What does this mean? Is it a question?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #14
31. Yup, and I'm sure they're selling BOATLOADS more burgers now,
do you agree?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 10:33 PM
Response to Original message
15. Well, Burger King is the Home of the Whopper.
It doesn't just refer to burgers anymore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
16. All BK can do is revoke the franchises.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 11:04 PM
Response to Original message
17. You say Baloney, I say Bologna
From the article:
He continued: "Burger King can bluster all they want about what they can tell the franchisee to do, but we have free-speech rights in this country so I don't think there's any concerns."

If an employee came in with a tee shirt that said Southern Baptists are Baloney, I bet he would be fired in 5 seconds and wouldn't be able to hire fancy lawyers to defend him. Corporations do have more rights than citizens. Those whacky slave states, still fighting the civil war. And reality.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Those whacky slave states, still fighting the civil war. And reality.
How about those wacky states who never had slavery and/or weren't even states in the 1860s who are still fighting the Civil War and reality? Whoo boy!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tucsonlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 12:02 AM
Response to Original message
20. Another Successful Ad Campaign, No Doubt
Sure to increase sales. Remember how popular their "Baby Seal Burger" promotion was last year?...


:tinfoilhat:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
21. I guess they don't want Democrats to eat there?
I would starve before eating there. Bush put America behind 8 years and I have had enough.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 02:47 AM
Response to Original message
22. Burger King can smack that shithead down if they want
We had an excellent restaurant here in San Francisco called Falafel King. Burger King, I kid you not, sued the guy because he was trespassing on the Burger King trademark name. And Burger King won. The guy changed the restaurant's name to King of Falafel. I ate there a couple of weeks ago. Every time I walk in it's like I'm giving the finger and saying, "Fuck You Burger King. I'll take my business here, you douchebags."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 03:40 AM
Response to Original message
23. We serve burgers, not warmed up baloney...


Maybe some nearby competitor can take advantage of that sign,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 05:46 AM
Response to Original message
24. Its people like that who will come screaming and crying when the shit hits the fan
dumb bastards.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DarbyUSMC Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 07:12 AM
Response to Original message
25. Maybe it means something else. Open 24 hours follows the statement.
They're staying open despite many places shutting off the lights in their buildings at night and so forth, to conserve energy. So maybe they are saying, phooey on global warming, our drive thru is open all night. I don't go to Burger King but it seems dubious that it is a political statement. They might have said "Screw Global Warming; We're open 24/7."

That's the view from here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 07:18 AM
Response to Original message
26. What a fucking moron
The first amendment protects your freedom of speech from governmental intervention.

Franchise contracts puts the onus on the franchisee to follow direction from the corporate office, especially where corporate image is concerned.

HE can have every last franchise license pulled over his bullshit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 07:28 AM
Response to Original message
27. Global Warming is Baloney Global Warming is Baloney
Global Warming is Baloney Global Warming is Baloney
you are getting sleepy sleepy sleepy

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 07:56 AM
Response to Original message
28. As an aside ...
did he observe that cockroach behavior in his restaurants? I'm thinking somebody's due a visit by the health inspector.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 08:16 AM
Response to Original message
29. Jhn McNelis can take solace...
...in the fact that he'll become a Fox News superstar (a la Joe the Plumber) after he gets his franchises pulled. What a tool.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:35 AM
Response to Original message
32. This is defaming the brand name ... LAWSUIT in big, flaming capital letters. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:20 PM
Response to Original message
33. I hate both sides in this, but these A'holes are about to learn what we here already know...
corporations own our asses.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 07:16 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC