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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:14 PM
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Why I am done trying to talk sense to stupd conserstives
Edited on Fri Jun-12-09 03:37 PM by loyalkydem
There are some republicans that I know that I respect in my life. I can carry on a conversation with them and they don't go EXTREME on what they say.

Today, I read a conversation from a stupid little idiot

Now, there trying to turn this Sara Palin situation into the newest wedge issue.
Now, don't get me wrong, I feel for her son who has autism. I have a friend of mine who has it. But a comment that was made has made me totally loose respect for the extreme right.

JEFFERY MEEKS said this
Ok,open season on the Obama children then.Since,you just agree with Letterman's SICK joke

This guy goes on the face book page and post some of the most extreme comments I have ever seen. There is no reasoning with the extreme right wing. They are making it known that they hate black people, they hate anyone who doesn't support the Republicans. They won't even admit it when they are wrong and there is evidence to support that they are wrong.

I really wish the normal republicans grow a pair of balls and take their party back from these because until they do, these clueless extreme RW nuts will continue to make things worse and worse
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:20 PM
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1. You can't talk to them - you can only feed them right wing talking points
You will waste a bunch of time with them trying to reason because reasoning is not in their genetic makeup. Just let them run their party into a ditch.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:22 PM
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2. What's a conserstive?
:shrug:
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:26 PM
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3. Were you drunk when
you posted this...

The subject line is a mess.
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:39 PM
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4. No
but after talking with people who don't make sense, I'm drunk now. Try carrying on a conversation with them online and you'll see exactly what I mean. I'm of the opinion that the republican party needs to go away.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:49 PM
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7. I understand
:pals:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:44 PM
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5. Many of the GOPers spend a lot of time "rationalizing" their
beliefs - they have some need to be logical and to have ready explanations for their "values". They seem to despise Democrats partly because a lot of us are emotional ( as in Sotomayor's empathy) which theys ee as a terrible thing.

They are not very smart, even the smarter ones - they are the type of people who rely very heavily on outside direction and rules and regulations.

Arguing with a RWer is like arguing with a drunk - fucking pointless and frustrating - a waste of time.

They really should all go away, but I am afraid they won't.


mark
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:47 PM
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6. if you spelled conservatives correctly.....
Edited on Fri Jun-12-09 03:51 PM by LaPera
And remember that conservatives are fucking republicans and they always vote republican and republican ideology is simply business/corporations over people, fuck the people, fuck the workers, that's conservative/republican ideology & agenda!

Call "stupd conserstives" what they are...lying. hateful, greedy, elitist fucking slimy REPUBLICANS.....no need to hide behind words like conservatives.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:49 PM
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8. I work with a young Republican. We know we don't agree on ANYTHING political
but I like him and I can tell he likes me. We're very friendly. Every once in a while something vaguely cultural or political comes up and we'll exchange perceptions, but not in any attempt to change the other person's perspective. To have someone like him know someone like me--a liberal that RW pundits can't demonize because he sees first-hand how the stereotypes aren't true--is worth more than I can say.

Sometimes all politics is personal.
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JSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:55 PM
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9. Her believe her son has Down's
not autism.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:57 PM
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10. Good catch
a lot different.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:07 PM
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11. Conservatives" are unfortunately Born that way.. it isn't a Choice, they lack 'Fluidity in their
Edited on Fri Jun-12-09 04:10 PM by sam sarrha
Conservatives" are unfortunately Born that way.. it isn't a Choice, they lack 'Fluidity in their

thinking, QUITE POSSIBLY because of Organic physical deficiencies in essential cognitive structures of the brain.

the problem you are experiencing is due to them not being Cognitively prepared.. or better put, they simply are so psychologically deficient they they cant understand one fuck'n thing you are saying.. you are talking to an Ideological brick wall. they cant get it.. you are talking about color to someone who is totally color blind


my personal view of this subject..if we cant legislate out the Phenomenological IRON LAW OF OLIGARCHY http://bitbucket.icaap.org/dict.pl?alpha=1
"snip...ON LAW OF OLIGARCHY First defined by German sociologist Robert Michels (1876-1936), this refers to the inherent tendency of all complex organizations, including radical or socialist political parties and labour unions, to develop a ruling clique of leaders with interests in the organization itself rather than in its official aims. These leaders, Michels argued, came to desire leadership and its status and rewards more than any commitment to goals. Inevitably, their influence was conservative, seeking to preserve and enhance the organization and not to endanger it by any radical action. Michels based his argument on the simple observation that day-to-day running of a complex organization by its mass membership was impossible. Therefore, professional full-time leadership and direction was required. In theory the leaders of the organization were subject to control by the mass membership, through delegate conferences and membership voting, but, in reality, the leaders were in the dominant position. They possessed the experience and expertise in running the organization, they came to control the means of communication within the organization and they monopolized the public status of representing the organization. It became difficult for the mass membership to provide any effective counterweight to this professional, entrenched, leadership. Michels also argued that these inherent organizational tendencies were strengthened by a mass psychology of leadership dependency, he felt that people had a basic psychological need to be led. ...snip"

then we must consider that.. they need to be put in walled Reservations and prevented from breeding, its the only way to humanely deal with them. we are all Doomed if they are left to continue to FUCK everything up to profit from it,they are obsessive compulsive sociopaths and some psychopathic and all out of control." :shrug:
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the following links are broken.. this is where they come from



search info.. brain differences

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/376166/brain_d...
"snip....Data analysis shows that liberals are about 5 times as likely as conservatives to show brain activity in the areas of the brain related to detecting conflicts between habitual tendency and a more appropriate response. Liberals are also more than twice as likely to score in the top half of the distribution for accuracy.Simply put, liberals tend to think much more than conservatives before acting, whereas conservatives tend to be much more habitual and conforming to established traditions...snip"

search info. Democrat brain differences
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.m...

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10se...
"Frank J. Sulloway, a researcher at UC Berkeley's Institute of Personality and Social Research who was not connected to the study, said the results "provided an elegant demonstration that individual differences on a conservative-liberal dimension are strongly related to brain activity."

Analyzing the data, Sulloway said liberals were 4.9 times as likely as conservatives to show activity in the brain circuits that deal with conflicts, and 2.2 times as likely to score in the top half of the distribution for accuracy.

notice the difference in substance of the articles

search info for liberal brain differences
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+cognitive+brain+differences+liberals+Conservatives&btnG=Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=liberal+brain+differences&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=


search info for conservative brain differences
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=conservative+brain+differences&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
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