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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:33 PM
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Poll question: Iran election: Do you believe Ahmadinejad won fair and square?
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:34 PM
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1. I have no way of knowing. /nt
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:35 PM
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2. Me either. That's why the poll. Maybe DUers have more info
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:38 PM
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3. Incontrovertible evidence of a rigging
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 03:55 PM by WeDidIt
a graph of the results reporting demonstrates that the reported results never deviated from the standard as results were reported all night long.

No election reporting happens that way in any country. The margin will swing to and froe with each report from each district. I think DUers have watched enough election results reporting to understand this is the norm. This demonstrates a very blatant and poorly implemented rigging of the results
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:39 PM
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4. Thanks... good info
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:41 PM
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8. I've seen another electino reported that way
Teh last time Saddam Hussein was re-elected, the same thing happened. The only difference was it was 100% all night.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:50 PM
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14. Gah. rick roll link.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:52 PM
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15. D'oh!
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 03:54 PM by WeDidIt
Put in the wrong link.


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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:54 PM
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17. It's still coming up weird
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:56 PM
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18. Yeah, wrong original link. Corrected now
Hazards of simultaneouusly posting on seperate message boards about different issues.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:59 PM
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21. Great! THANKS!
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:53 PM
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16. lol. yeah but that's ok. ;-)
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:40 PM
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5. Other: Insufficient data and no real personal knowledge of Iran. No opinion. nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:40 PM
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6. my sisters sil is in Tehran right now and no one thinks he won it on the square.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:43 PM
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11. Let's see if the people allow him to steal it... if the uprisings continue
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:45 PM
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12. don't hold your breath.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:41 PM
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7. Face it - Iran is jealous of America.
We had two fraudulent presidential elections and now THEY want one!

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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:42 PM
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9. I want to know
Has Rove gotten back from Iran yet? :shrug:
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:43 PM
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10. Unfortunately we may never know.
It will not make a difference if we do learn the truth. The religious leaders are in control. Until the elections are monitored by outsiders, they will always be rigged. BTW, who are we to criticize when our own presidential elections were fraudulent in 2000.
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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:45 PM
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13. Of coarse he did
and everyone will soon be getting their rainbows and ponies just like us.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:57 PM
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19. I'm voting with Juan Cole on this one
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:59 PM
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20. It looks fishy, very fishy
Juan Cole has a good article laying out 6 reasons to be skeptical.

http://www.juancole.com/2009/06/stealing-iranian-election.html

The even distribution of votes is pretty damning.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 04:01 PM
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22. Does anybody know the current whereabouts of Ken Blackwell?
This is Iran's version of Ohio 2004. :evilfrown:
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 04:27 PM
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23. How the hell would we know? Unless we were there and monitored the election,
we have no idea what happened.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 04:29 PM
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24. well, I heard that exit polls showed Moussawi winning.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 04:30 PM
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25. As far as we know, the CIA rigged it for Dinner Jacket.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 05:51 PM
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26. They got too greedy and the spread was too big for plausibility.
Even Kkkarl knew better than to try to present 2000 and 2004 as anything more than squeakers. The exit polls were damning enough as it is.

A win for I'mADinarJihad works for the PNACers, the NeoCons, AIPAC, the LIKUD, the MIC and his own party - all of whom would have lost varying degrees of political and monetary support with a more moderate Iranian spokesman (which is all the power an Iranian President really has).

Fortunately, most of the world now realizes Iran's government is illegitimate - just as ours was not too long ago.
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