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Sat Jun-20-09 01:25 AM
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1. Was that person well-known? |
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Because it was in an exchange with me that he got his very own pizza.
I never saw him before, I swear.
Should I be sad?
Or proud?
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:29 AM
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5. She came and went. Was nice a while back, seems to have had problems for |
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a while. Was not so nice several months ago, took a break and came back with an apology. Looks like went out blazing today.
Sometimes was very nice, other times was very un-nice. I am always sad to see people who seem to be having issues flame out here. I wish we had more affordable, accessible non-stigmatic mental health care available as we all could use it at times.
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:34 AM
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10. I've never read anyone say something like that after a TS. |
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Whether or not there was that kind of an issue in this case, as someone who hasn't been able to afford even basic care for a ten foot depression in the last two years, I really appreciate the thought, uppityperson. :thumbsup:
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:39 AM
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14. link to "In recent months I've been an angry ass and I apologize." |
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:42 AM
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15. Yes, I remember that thread. And maybe that should be |
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:49 PM
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65. I know an object lesson when I see one. |
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:35 AM
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11. I've had her on and off ignore. |
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She could be nasty and nice, but I missed this brouhaha. Thankfully.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:08 PM
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52. " I missed this brouhaha" |
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Me too. My experiences with her had generally been quite pleasant.
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:38 PM
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85. She was a nice person |
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:25 AM
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:34 AM
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9. This is where it ended........... |
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:29 PM
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82. lots of deleated posts on that one. |
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Let me guess: Personal attacks for not being as intensely upset as she thought you should be about something?
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:31 PM
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83. You got it on the first guess. |
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:27 AM
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4. Dang, I miss all the good stuff |
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:34 AM
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8. google "breeze54" + "democraticunderground" |
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Edited on Sat Jun-20-09 01:35 AM by Liberal_in_LA
One of her last posts:
You're all a bunch of chicken shits! Edited on Fri Jun-19-09 11:54 AM by Breeze54 What to do? What to do? OMG!! What to do?
DECIDE and decide NOW!!! :evilfrown:
Single payer health care MEANS ONE PAYER!!!
Less interference in your life and mine.
Public Plan means Single Payer too!! :P
The cheaper the better!!!
Get off the curb and make a decision.... NOW!!!
Do you want HUGE $$$ Health Care Insurance bills?
OR
Do you want your family taken care of when they need help?
You decide!!!
and
That's a shame. DU seems to have gone into the cesspool.
It used to be the DU was an OASIS from the Freepers.
Now they are hugged and defended?
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:37 AM
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13. Saw the link above, thanks |
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:30 AM
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I just get all these people mixed up!
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:32 AM
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7. Now, how come that one wasn't on my list? Shoulda been. |
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:37 AM
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I cleared my Ignore list, just to see what would happen.
It's been interesting, but my Ignore list is still empty......................
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:00 AM
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21. Is this necessary on this topic? |
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:08 AM
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Use the ignore function. I like seeing both of you here.
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Sat Jun-20-09 07:54 PM
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I figured it was far, far better to start to smack down the trolls who have been here since the founding of the site.
They are still here, to this day. There are always a few, a very few, trolls who on any forum manage to stay. And yes, we do have them, but I can't and won't mention names.
Breeze54 was one of the more obvious ones, and I'm frankly surprised it wasn't served a pizza loooong before now.
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:49 AM
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17. DU won't EVENTUALLY "fare well" when it bans its 'best posters' |
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I've seen the degradation through the years....tombstoning their most 'thought-provoking posters'....or maybe that is DU's 'goal'? To lure progressives "in" and than squash them like a little bug!?
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:58 AM
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20. Perhaps you missed the nasty ones? |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5882256&mesg_id=5882256Lots of them were deleted there so difficult to say which were whose, but there were enough nasty ones over the last while, and I am sure she got warnings also before TSing.
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:01 AM
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22. I guess everyone loves me, because I don't recall her ever being nasty to me. |
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But that's a given, I am awesome.
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:03 AM
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I've seen you in action.
I'll write that letter for you, rest assured..............
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:17 AM
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I was surprised when it happened to me back in Feb as we had gotten along quite well until then. This is why I was glad to see the "I've been an angry ass" or whatever it was last month and am sad to see this happening now. So, RIP Breeze.
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:17 AM
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30. What'd she snap at you for? |
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It's a shame when some DUers lose control.
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Sun Jun-21-09 12:05 AM
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91. Maybe couldn't see you |
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:11 AM
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28. Never be afraid of free speech and 'controversial' ideas...... |
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UGH.....I've learned sOOOOOOOOO much from DU......and then the best DU'er's get banned. Something 'not right' happened to this sight. Thanks for the lessons/knowledge.....I see it's (well past) time for me to 'move on'........
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43. There is a difference between controversial ideas and personal attacks |
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Discussing controversial ideas is fine, but when you start getting nasty, personal attacks are against DU rules. Discussing with civility is fine.
And I thought I was the "best DUer". sigh
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92. Your all a bunch of chicken salads!!!!!111!! Chopped celery or NOT?! |
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John + Kate = regurgitate. Must be the bad mayo.
Please people, don't do the green mayo. It's a bad trip.
If it gets you, all that'll be left at DU is the mayosayers. Their awful!
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:02 AM
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23. that poster regularly attacked people personally , and she must have gotten a bunch of warnings |
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since she wasn't tombstoned for a long time. it would happen to anyone.
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64. You say "thought provoking" like it's a BAD thing? |
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:57 AM
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19. This one sucks. I always liked her. |
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:04 AM
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26. I'm sorry this happened. Breeze was always nice to me |
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Has this been a long week or what?
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:44 AM
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35. Hey, EF. Hellz yeah, it has been. |
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As above, so below, I guess.
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As above so goes below. A friend mentioned that there's suppose to be a big shift tomorrow on Summer Soltice and the Energy should be coming in more harmonious.. I'll believe that when I feel it:)
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:56 PM
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88. She was always nice to me too |
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Sat Jun-20-09 10:15 PM
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90. Meh, I had her on ignore. Probably since primaries. |
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:34 AM
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34. I think the DU owners need to recognize that all of us go through good and bad periods. |
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Some more extreme, some less. And the board is a home for people (all of us) who are less than perfect. Sometimes someone goes out of bounds for a while, but "ignore" should be the first reaction rather than "kill." There are some posters who have been allowed for years although nothing they have posted has ever been anything but RW crap and insults, but they are controlled (and devious) enough to evade banning.
I recognize the name, but can't say I have any particular impression (faintly negative or positive, or both maybe, nothing very strong). And I recall a banning of another poster who seemed to contribute regularly and constructively, but apparently got into a fight with some mods (you suck! - No you suck! - asshole - shithead!....). I think the justification was 19 warnings and replies) during a drunk or a manic phase.
I think DU would be better if it was less likely to ban based on occasional bad days and maybe a bit more attentive to reducing the number of posters who have never contributed anything useful and especially those who are always destructive.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:19 AM
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41. I've had some batshit crazy threads on here before. |
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Mainly because I'm frequently batshit crazy as are many here (but in a caring Democratic way), and I appreciate the passes I've been given. I don't know all the posts in question and the mods here are usually very fair, but, I do wonder if warnings are given as much as people assume before a TSing. I know some former DUers that claim they never got one. Long time, prolific and intelligent members who may have crossed that sometimes blurry line one too many times but didn't realize it.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:04 PM
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50. I also post at The Penny Arcade gaming site |
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THEY can put users in "jail" for a time. I think jailed users can read posts, and retain their accounts, but cannot themselves post for a given period.
Perhaps we should consider that option.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:41 PM
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60. I recognize the name too |
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but cannot remember whether it is in a positive way or negative. I don't see the big picture that the mods do either.
Other than my ignore list, and perhaps the obvious, I can think of a bunch of long time DUers who deserve a pizza either. You may be seeing more or have tougher standards.
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:27 PM
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81. DU would be better if people backed away from their keyboards on their own bad days |
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We all must take some responsibility for our own behavior. I had breeze on and off ignore because of personal attacks on people, then I would clear my ignore list, not that she was doing OK, only to see her rip into people personally.
I have bad days, weeks, months. I try to stay away when I am at my worst. You all don't deserve me at my maddest. I care enough about DU to try and not be bad to everyone, just the asses who really need to be busted in the chops (usually for personal attacks on others). It isn't that hard to STFU when one is too hostile to be constructive.
I hope breeze gets her groove on again. I wish her well.
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Sat Jun-20-09 07:44 AM
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36. I think I had a couple of very nice non controversial exchanges with her just this week |
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Didn't seem argumentative, paranoid, or batshit crazy to me.
Seemed like a nice woman. Guess I just didn't press the right button.
I miss all the good shit around here.
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Sat Jun-20-09 07:45 AM
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I liked this person.
I saw the flame out thread and was taken aback...... I didn't know the whole story.:-(
Take Care Breeze.
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Sat Jun-20-09 07:45 AM
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38. Are you kidding? I always liked Breeze54 |
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:25 AM
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42. Sayonara To Bad Rubbish. |
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that's hilarious, what's your secret?
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:05 PM
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51. Yeah, funny how some of the most loathesome assholes manage to stay on and on |
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when so many good people fall by the wayside.
One of my happiest days was when Jiacinto finally got the granite -- but it took years. I live in hope, nonetheless.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:17 PM
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54. It seems there are some who just get up in the morning spoiling for a fight. |
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Nothing else will do. When they get that way on DU, I have learned, just do not respond to any provocation they throw your way. There is one poster on DU that I just don't respond to. I don't have her on Ignore, I just ignore on my own. I realize that she really has something wrong and needs to pick fights. I pick my fights very carefully...
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:32 PM
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56. I don't have anyone on ignore either. There are just certain people |
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I make a point of not responding to. It's just not worth the aggravation. If I weaken and engage with them, I always regret it.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:41 PM
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61. Have you noticed that these people always get a fight going with others, even ifyou don't respond? |
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That's the proof to me. If she doesn't get a rise out of me, she moves on to others. It's kinda predictable, altho she is not always that way. Sometimes I wonder if it is a bipolar situation...:shrug:
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:52 PM
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66. Yep, yep and yep. It's rare that the ones "gunning for fights" |
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only fight with one or even ten people. They tend to fight with EVERYBODY including the damned admins.
Warnings, suspensions mean nothing.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:54 PM
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67. There are a few individuals |
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who are better ignored. Though I have never used the official "ignore" function," I am easily able to avoid reading anything those few have to say.
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:26 PM
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80. I don't think any of them would mess with you anyway, Waterman, you're such a fine, decent person. |
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They have no compunction about picking fights with me, 'cuz I'm much more disreputable. :)
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:49 PM
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87. This is why I never understood the Ignore function. It's so easy to do it on your own. |
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I can't believe that I'm so fragile that I can't function without having an Ignore Option to make them go away...
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:29 PM
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he was a pain in the ass, but not as nasty and mean spirited as some who are alive and well here.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:37 PM
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58. True. He wasn't exactly mean spirited, just insufferable and a very dishonest debater. |
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My first deleted post ever was a totally fed-up response to one of Carlos' posts. :D
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63. I think he was insane, |
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& dishonest.. he gave conflicting accounts of who he actually was. He was good at sidetracking people and wasting their time.
Mention Nader and you could almost hear his blood start boiling.
Carlos... Carlos...
such nostalgia
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:00 PM
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69. I actually offered him a place to stay at one point. |
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I was serious, too. As much of a smeghead as he was, I had an extra room when he looking for a place to stay. Can you imagine the outcome of that? :D
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:09 PM
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74. "Can you imagine the outcome of that?" Um, blood spatters everywhere? |
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A couple of detectives surveying the scene, shaking their heads sadly. "Well, Frank, it looks like it started in this room with the computer -- notice the smashed up monitor -- and then one of them grabbed a hardback copy of Atlas Shrugged, and the other one grabbed a replica of the Milennium Falcon..."
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78. LMAO...accurate with one exception. |
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It would be a Godzilla toy and not the Millenium Falcon. Star Wars is for kids..... ;)
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:33 PM
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84. Silly me. What was I thinking? |
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And I misspelled "millenium" to boot! I'm SO embarrassed! :blush:
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75. LOL, an Algonquin Round table-esque discussion of the Left Behind series? |
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:rofl: IIRC. he was homeless for a while (if that was true, who knows), but you are a very kind person to offer your home to him.
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I still remember him talking about his "shady" neighbors. He wouldn't have lasted long in my area. :)
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:hi: Ah the sweet memories of Carlos. :rofl: That's a name I haven't thought about in a loooong time.
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:13 PM
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76. He's one of the DU immortals. |
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I don't recall ever seeing that many deleted posts in one thread.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:13 PM
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53. Thanks for letting us know. This makes me very sad. |
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Sometimes I didn't quite get where she was coming from, but most of the time I appreciated what she had to say. I certainly never got into any serious disagreements with her.
There are some people here whose demise I'd celebrate, she was definitely NOT one of them.
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I saw how nasty she could be... even against those who shared her ideals.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:38 PM
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59. Why not just return under another user name? It's easy to get multiple email addresses |
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:43 PM
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62. some do , but many times the mods and others are able to figure |
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out who they were based on what they post, their posting style etc.
there are ways to get back on under the same name though.
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:03 PM
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71. I.P. addys are checked. |
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There are ways around it, but I doubt many people know how (I'm not sure myself, I just know it can be done).
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:56 PM
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There are a variety of reasons that people seem to get frustrated, perhaps often in their personal lives, and then end up having it impact the quality of their contributions here.
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:04 PM
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72. Breeze was a weird one. |
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I had both good and bad exchanges over time with her (though not many of either). She lost it on that last thread though.
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:16 PM
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77. Name looks familiar, but I can't say I recall the poster specifically. |
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:43 PM
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86. Sorry to hear this... |
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So many Du'ers that have been here for a very long time getting tombstoned lately. :(
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Sat Jun-20-09 10:14 PM
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89. Since we're talking about banned users, what happened to Marrah_G? |
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Sun Jun-21-09 12:30 AM
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93. It might have been like "suicide by cop" |
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Maybe she was spoiling for a ts. I am really sorry to see her go. She was always nice to me, and I knew her heart was in the right place.
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