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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:01 AM Original message |
NY Times: In a Suburban Gangland, Young Lives Cut Short |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. Life would be shorter for these illegals at home? n/t |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yeah but if the illegals who are gang members were at home, people here would be a lot safer |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That's the point I was making. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. I disagree |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. you do realise that gangs are not all about poverty, its a culture |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Treating them as if they are not welcome here doesn't solve anything either |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. you want to gangbang then hell you shouldnt be welcome here |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. So the white kids who were born here and are gang banging shouldn't be welcome either? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. if you buy into the gang shit then no you shouldnt be welcome, but the american kids |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. And you honestly believe deporting them will solve the problem? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Better to deport them than to release them back into your community to go back to banging |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I prefer education and opportunites to deportation |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. your dreaming, hardcore bangers are not going to swap your classroom for the dough they make |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I actually know quite a few who have made that choice you claim they won't make |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. quite a few, how many is that exactly, considering that one of the smaller gangs i work with |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I couldn't even begin to count |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Me i fuck with them daily in order that they dont get a chance to fuck with you |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Like I said, my work focuses on keeping you from ever meeting them. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. unless he bangs or commits a crime he probuably wont... |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
91. You are the ones that give other cops a bad name. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. okay explain the racist thing, im pretty sure i spend my time fucking |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Deporting illegals means that those who follow legal processes have a better chance of getting |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. It is nearly impossible to get a visa and come here legally for many who choose to come illegally |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
67. In fact, we admit many more Central Americans than we do Europeans. Using your logic, |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Read up on the law |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. We limit the number of immigrants from all countries. It's just Europeans aren't queuing up |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
72. You don't think the 18 mo. rule has anything to do with the # of Hispanic illegals?n/t |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
85. Gang members were once babies, born to parents who lived in poverty |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. not every banger comes from poverty, if you believe its poverty based your wrong |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. Obviously there is a lot of money in gangs |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. we are talking across each other, i was just saying that i deal with a lot of bangers |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Yes, I can see that side of it too. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. for me its not about legal or illegal, illegal just means i can get them deported |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. To some degree, I agree. But there have been cases of them being deported and in fact, |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. unfortunately its a case of better the gang there than here, personally i would rather that |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Is "Paco" an ethnic slur? On an emotional level, I can understand that argument but more deaths will |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. nah paco is just on MS member i served with a deportation order a couple of days ago |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Grammar matters |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. The capitalization might matter if proper punctuation had been followed everywhere else in the post. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. There is more than one post and conclusions can be drawn |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. The poster did not properly punctuate "he's, it's, I" in same msg-or capitalize anything except MS. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Did I spell 'it's' wrong? |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. You just gave a grammar lecture concerning capitalization of "Paco". The comment on it's vs. its |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
79. But realistically, you know this person will likely rape in El Salvador before that happens, if it |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. oh hes already did his time here, he gets released ina couple of months |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Too bad he didn't get more time. But there's a good chance he'll end up back here - even with the |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Yup we already are starting to work up a plan if he comes back |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
92. Yes, it is an ethnic slur. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. wow so if i mention bob who i arrested last week for gang partic |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Their home is here |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. not the ones i see, if they are here illegally then surely that means that their home country is not |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. The are brought here as children |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. legally they are either legal or illegal regardless of what you or i think |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. They are threatened with violence if they DON'T join a gang |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:35 AM Original message |
yeah so we should be happy that the 12 year old gets jumped in |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
24. Who said he had killed anyone? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
46. lo you dont think i work with these bangers every day, whether i am in the jail or |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. "Go out into your community and try to help some of these kids." |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. This goes way beyond simple disagreement |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
78. No, you Thinking that does not mean I KNOW it. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
31. When I was 6 months old, my parents moved me to a different state |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. Do you think Francisco remembers home? He was 12 when he left. n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. So remembering it is now the standard? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
80. You know so much about 12 year olds, you tell me, do they ever do |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Thank you.....I just avoided reacting to the responses. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. That story is so sad and it hits home for me |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. it hits home for me to, i pick up the pieces when these poor kids who decide to be gangbangers |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. Well, the US government wasn't their friend when they displaced, what, |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Bingo |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. And I am doing my best to keep them from ever having to meet you. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. but they make the decision to gang bang, not that they have much choice sometimes |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. So, illegals' kids who are smuggled across the border automatically become citizens? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Nice leap |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. "They have lived here since they were small children, even babies" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. And a 12 year old freely chooses to cross the border illegally? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. If you think that's out of the realm of possibility, you don't know very many 12 yo's n/t. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I have spent 30 years working with 12 year olds |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. And I'm certain you are presumptuous about those who disagree with you on illegal immigration. n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. And you are grossly misinformed |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Where did that come from? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I read it in a NYT article posted at the top of this thread. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. You are going to have to quote the part of that article |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
39. No, I'm not going to have to do anything. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. So you just made some stuff up out of whole cloth? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. Then why are you linking the article as your source? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. You said their home is here. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Their home is here |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. Fransisco isn't 12 anymore. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
70. For all the horrible crap the US government has done in El Salvador |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
76. If their home is here why call their criminal enterprise "Salvadorans With Pride"? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Hear hear! "Criminal" being the operative word. n/t |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. people forget that these gangs are not social groups they are hardened criminals |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. Chickens come home. We fund, train and supply the most brutal |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. not american, common sense, and blaming gangs on american foreign policy is dumb |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I am talking about El Salvador. You've heard of the place, right? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. i didnt pay for it in anyway, and im talking about gangs in general |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. So you don't think all immigrants from El Salvador are hardened criminals. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. ok though t you were talking about the civil war, and yes i think i stated that all salvadorans are |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
29. If the times wants some stories come up to Syracuse |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. My first job out of college was in Syracuse..... |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. I meant Syracuse. I'm actually north of it 60 miles. Sorry for the confusion. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Wow. I didn't realize the 'Cuse had gone so crazy..... |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. It's nuts it really is. I'm surprised more hasn't seeped up here yet. Knock on wood |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Every time the economy goes south, the crime rate goes up |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-21-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
88. The top countries of birth for immigrants in FY 2005 were Mexico (161,445), India (84,681), |
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