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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:17 PM
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"I" befor e"E" except after "C" is bullshit!
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:18 PM
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1. you're weird
:)
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:19 PM
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2. What a weird society.
Thanks for weighing in on this.
:D
:rofl:
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:24 PM
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6. isn't it "wieghing in"?????
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:05 PM
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21. Neigh
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:53 PM
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16. ...
"
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:22 PM
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3. Love thy DU neighbors as thyselves.
Rein in your know-it-all impulses.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:22 PM
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4. Well, they left off the end.... "or when sounded as A as in neighbor and weigh"
"sufficient" is not an exception because the rule doesn't apply to the case of both vowels being pronounced, in 'sufficient' they technically are.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:25 PM
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8. yup; & i used to have trouble with "weird" until i realized it was just a weird exception.
it's a great rule.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:43 PM
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13. It's actually not an exception
It's just not pronounced wayrd (with a long a) like it was centuries ago. The same is true of for AYN (foreign).

I learned that in my college English class. Thank you, Professor Darcy.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 07:03 PM
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27. What about 'weir'?
Was that pronounced 'wayr'?
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:23 PM
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5. I before E except after C and when it sounds like A as in neighbor and weigh.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:42 PM
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12. and height.
many many exceptions. .
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:43 PM
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19. I learned "or before g as in neighbor and neigh"
:shrug:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:24 PM
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7. The full rule:
i before e, except after c
or when sounded like "ay"
as in neighbor and weigh
drop this rule when -c sounds as -sh.

Like the rule for leap year, which is more complicated than just every year divisible by four is a leap year.
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Streen Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:28 PM
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9. As an English major
I agree with this. In learning languages, we're always told that there are some things we "just have to memorize," because they're outside the rule or norm. And if the rule ends up being such, where it's something you just have to memorize rather than fitting any pattern, then the rule has to change. Right?

Still, no matter what, I'm sure the British will yell at us for our horrible spelling.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:34 PM
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10. Well we can yell back about terrible food.
:evilgrin:

And welcome to DU!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:41 PM
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11. If everyone read more widely and wrote more carefully for more diverse audiences, the exceptions
wouldn't be so much of a problem, but I'm willing to yield on this and on some other spelling rules as long as there is something like the OED keeping track of the evolution of our language and, hence, our semantics, and in exchange for more careful and precise attention to grammar, the parts of speech and their functions, and syntax.
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:46 PM
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14. Neither weird species of leisure seized either financier. n/t
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tiny elvis Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:15 PM
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17. excellent
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:49 PM
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15. Too bad. That was an extremely useful rule.
It taught me to question things.

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:33 PM
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18. Next up
ending sentences with prepositions.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:04 PM
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20. Rein in that temper!!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:07 PM
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22. ...




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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:20 PM
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23. That's one of the things I like about "Science"
Exceptions Rule!
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:29 PM
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24. K&R!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:33 PM
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25. The Easter bunny did it with Octomom in the basement... with something pink...
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:59 PM
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26. look,all I'm saying is that our language is continually evolving,
so all you people that say I can only spell or write things according to your "rules" can eat me.:hide:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 07:13 PM
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28. It's meant for the sound 'ee'
as in:

receipt
ceiling
field
siege
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