People on terrorist watch list allowed to buy guns and explosives.

[sharesunited]

Thanks Second Amendment! We love guns soooo much!!

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/22/terror.guns/index.html

[derby378]

1. The watch list should be burned, and rightly so

Too many innocent Americans have been placed on it. The list is worthless at best and oppressive at worst.

[ejpoeta]

2. how many people on that list SHOULD be. i would bet less than half at least.

it's ridiculous.

[csziggy]

31. Of course, that is part of the truly obnoxious part of the Bush/Cheney regime

Not only did they do things that should never have been done, such as the "terrorist watch list" but they did them badly. For instance, incomplete information on the "terrorists" to be watched that caused many others to be blocked from traveling for bogus reasons. Or poor execution that allowed guns and explosives to be sold to those supposed "terrorists."

This list goes on and on and on and on.

[benEzra]

3. Wait, you *support* Bush's Secret Terrah Blacklists?

Or is it just the addition of the word "GUNZ!" to the word "TERRAH!" that changed your mind?

[sharesunited]

27. Don't bother trying to pit my disdain for the watch list against my disdain for guns.

I have enough disdain for both, I assure you.

[benEzra]

30. Obviously your disdain for gun ownership is winning if you support this.

That is precisely the game the Bush Administration played, FWIW. He portrayed it as either-or; if you were against the blacklists and surveillance, you were pro-terrorist, and completely dismissed the concept that you could be against both.

[Vickers]

4. Yea. An anti-gun thread.

:eyes:

Maybe you should attack the root cause of what you linked to...poorly-written laws, and ineffective "terrorist" lists.

But hey, I see you go for the low-hanging fruit and shit.

:rofl:

[fascisthunter]

8. good... there should be more

[konnichi wa]

11. More...low hanging fruit? Maybe so;.

:eyes:

[fascisthunter]

13. guns and the violence guns bring into society are not low hanging fruit

I know you gun obsessives would love for us to back off, but we won't. Get used to it. You'll have to learn another line...

[konnichi wa]

14. Get used to the fact that most Americans and well over half of DU support the 2nd

and the right to keep and bear arms. But if you think you're man enough, feel free to come for mine.

[fascisthunter]

15. I don't want your guns... besides, you need them too much

imagine living without them at all... the horror!

The gun grabbing is in your head just like the need. Enjoy goose stepping for the NRA=Republicans Proliferating Guns for gun manufacturers...

[konnichi wa]

16. I will enjoy it. Actually I think I will send them another thousand bucks

in your name.

[Edweird]

21. Um, if guns 'brought violence', then why are there murders in prison?

Answer: Violent criminals are responsible for criminal violence - not inanimate objects.

[fascisthunter]

24. Oh... I'm sorry... people with guns

[Edweird]

26. hmm. 200,000,000 PRIVATELY owned (non military or police) firearms.

If the problem were 'people with guns' things would be very different. The problem is violent criminals.

[MichaelHarris]

5. From another article

"The special interest gun lobby has so twisted our nation's laws that the rights of terrorists are placed above the safety of everyday Americans," Lautenberg said in a written statement, "The current law simply defies common sense."

[konnichi wa]

12. Substitute "gay" for "gun" there and you will have the wingnut philosophy in a nutshell.

:grr:

[MichaelHarris]

17. are you saying

the "gay" lobby has so twisted our nation's laws that the rights of terrorists are placed above the safety of everyday Americans?

Are you sure you're at the right website?

[konnichi wa]

18. No, that is what YOU are saying.

Do try to keep up,

[MichaelHarris]

19. I've read it

5 times, no where did I say "gay". How's your glasses prescription doing? Actually what I did was quote a Senator. Keeping up may be something you need to look into.

[konnichi wa]

22. No, I suppose you didn't day gay. Do you night gay? Do you even have 2 functioning neurons?

Are you a moran? So many questions...

[MichaelHarris]

23. day gay?

night gay? Are you on drugs? You're questioning if I'm a moron?

[beevul]

29. Yeah Mike, terrorists like this guy...

He was prevented from boarding a plane because of your precious list.

Guess he should have been flagged as "disallowed to purchase a firearm" too, right?

[ZombieHorde]

6. As long as they are not buying pot then everything should be OK. nt

[Hoopla Phil]

7. The "watch list" has been turned into a political hit list by Bush Co. It needs to be scrapped.

Could you imagine if this list was used to bar people from voting?

Do you realize that the NAME alone is used on that list? How many people have been barred from flying by having a name in common with a suspected terrorist of someone on BushCo's personal no fly list?

[sarcasmo]

9. How many of us were put on that list by bush and his cronies?

[konnichi wa]

10. The same list that stopped Ted Kennedy from flying. You Loooove that part too?

:eyes:

I owned guns for 57 years and was never an NRA member but thanks to people like you, I joined last year.
Good work.

[bigwillq]

20. What are we going to get rid of the watch list?

:shrug:

[rustydog]

25. I posted in a like thread...Babies are on the watch list

It is a piss-poor attempt to label "terrorists" by NAME!
babies, even Ted Kennedy was on the list if my memory serves correctly.

so the poll is retarded and stoopid.
Legal, law-abiding citizens who can legally purchase firearms may be on the watch list simply because...not because they have ties to terror organizations.

[Redneck Socialist]

28. Let's see, a secret government list...

with no way of finding out who's on it, how they got on it, and unless they happen to be Senator Kennedy, if there is any way to get off it.

Have I got that right?

Yeah, that sounds like a great method of determining if you're allowed to exercise your rights, let's go with that.

(Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)

[ddeclue]

32. Terrorist watch list is unconstitutional - the people on it have been convicted of nothing.

why should their rights be taken away? That is punishment without due process of law.

and NO I'm no gun nut. I think there should be reasonable gun regulations but these watch lists (e.g. no fly list) are totalitarian, Orwellian monstrosities.

Doug D.