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Wed Jun-24-09 11:30 AM
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Who elses wants to CHOOSE to have the same health care plan that all of the Senators get? |
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After all, they're all saying that health care should be about choice, right?
So, I choose that one.
And I think we all should.
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:31 AM
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1. I'm cool with that - especially the "no premium and no deductable" part. |
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:37 AM
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9. Oooh, "no premium, no deductable"? Hell yeah, I'm in! nt |
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:46 AM
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12. What planet do YOU live on? |
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Senators get the same health benefits that ALL government employees get...the FEHBP. http://www.opm.gov/insure/health/
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Wed Jun-24-09 12:18 PM
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20. The thing is, same as all fed employees, there is a premium & co-pays |
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The real difference is insurers (and it is through insurers, by the way) can't do the pre-existing condition crap.
It isn't free. Stop believing everything wingers send in the email
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:32 AM
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2. Yes, that should be the standard, that should be the goal. |
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I cannot agree more.
:applause:
Recommended.
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:32 AM
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That's what I've been saying. We should be calling it Senator Healthcare for All. nt |
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:32 AM
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:32 AM
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4. Buu.. Bu But tha.. that's Public Health Care |
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The public pays but doesn't get the benefit
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:32 AM
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5. Yeah... what ever happened to that? |
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Wasn't it one of Obama's campaign promises?
That is the one I want, too. ;)
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:33 AM
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No one should have to choose plans. Everyone should have the best available--that being, a single payer plan
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:33 AM
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7. And it is fantastic plan. |
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It is the same one Federal employees get to choose.
Every member of Congress who wants to deny this to the public should voluntarily surrender their own plan. Fucking hypocrites.
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:47 AM
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13. "Fantastic"? No. "Good"? Absolutely. |
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I'm an FEHBP member...I know.
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:34 AM
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8. Don't they realize that we are on to them, yet? Dumber than dirt, they are. |
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:39 AM
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10. Wonderful idea for a TV Ad. Maybe MoveOn would take it up for you? |
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Edited on Wed Jun-24-09 11:40 AM by Blaze Diem
"Who else wants to CHOOSE to have the same health care plan that all of the Senators get?"
Call, Text, Twitter, Email or Postal Mail your answer please....
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Then submit the response to Congress. Make it a Permanent Public Record.
Embarrass those who oppose it and bring it back up when they're facing re-election
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:45 AM
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11. Yes! I am going to call my 2 senators and 1 so-called |
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"representative" and tell them I want health care like theirs.
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:49 AM
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14. That's what I've always advocated. Expand FEHBP to cover everybody. |
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Not a Cadillac plan by any measure, but it provides good, solid access to health care and it's an existing system so it'd be easier to implement than single-payer.
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:57 AM
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17. What you are advocating is single payer, however, it would be very expensive |
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if still funneled through the parasitical middle men insurance companies. Cut out the middle man. The insurers will not want to insure the truly sick who need health care, so there will still be a group of uninsured people who need it most. Federal employees as a whole are middle class and healthier than the population at large, and to include everyone and still make a profit would make any insurance sky rocket expensive that could bankrupt the country for sure.
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:49 AM
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15. I really would like to know what the Federal government spends every |
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year on FEHB, Federal Employees Health Benefits, which all federal employees get including Congress. Since the plans are the Cadillac of insurance, it's got to be expensive. Of course it's still private insurance like Blue Cross. I say cut out the middle man and give us have Medicare for all. If Congress must use Medicare as their health insurance provider, then they will probably make the effort to make sure that it is comprehensive, updated, and covers everything. If they are allowed to keep their fancy plans, then they will have no problem serving up the watered down, underpaying plan that we seniors have today as Medicare. Yet, even with holes shot through it by generations of Republicans since it was signed into law by LBJ, it's still better than most insurance plans that we ordinary workers are stuck with.
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Wed Jun-24-09 12:09 PM
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18. FEHBP is NOT "Cadillac" insurance! |
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I have it, I know.
Ford workers get better insurance options than I do.
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Wed Jun-24-09 12:15 PM
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19. Looks pretty Cadillacy to me. |
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Wed Jun-24-09 12:21 PM
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22. "Better than Medicare" does not equal "Cadillac insurance". |
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Most of my friends making $50k+ a year have better medical benefits.
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Wed Jun-24-09 12:28 PM
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26. If the option is not so great then, why are you pushing us on it? |
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Actually, Medicare would be great if Congress will update the fee schedule, plug the gaps in it and offer dental and vision.
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Wed Jun-24-09 12:33 PM
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27. Because while basic access to health care may be a "right", top-shelf insurance isn't. |
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Advocating premium health insurance for all is like advocating $250k/year salaries for all. It's not realistic, nor does it make practical sense.
Sure, it'd b e great, but we live in a world of limited resources. "Better" jobs get better perks...and I don't have a problem with that.
FEHBP would provide good, solid access to health care for everybody...and that's satisfactory.
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Wed Jun-24-09 01:09 PM
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28. Medicare can do that, if it's updated, and be administered for a lot less because profits |
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aren't being funneled to Wall Street; because there is no need for advertising; because there is no need to buy politicians through lobbyists, who also must be paid.
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Wed Jun-24-09 01:29 PM
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31. compared to the average schmuck's insurance - IT IS. |
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Edited on Wed Jun-24-09 01:29 PM by Donnachaidh
My parent's had it years ago. It IS Cadillac insurance.
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Wed Jun-24-09 01:56 PM
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33. Compared to the average homeless person's dinner, TGI Friday's is gourmet food. |
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...that doesn't make Friday's anything other than slightly-upscale fast food, though.
As I've said, most of my friends making $50k/year have as good or better medical benefits.
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Wed Jun-24-09 02:40 PM
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34. and once again -- the blue collar folks don't HAVE cadillac insurance like you |
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and your 50K+ buddies do.
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Wed Jun-24-09 05:22 PM
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35. and once again, it's NOT "Cadillac" insurance. |
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It's good, basic insurance. Cadillac insurance does exist. We don't have it.
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Wed Jun-24-09 01:40 PM
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32. "he meant lexus, but he ain't know it"... |
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Wed Jun-24-09 11:52 AM
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16. I'm with that- especially the "for life" part. |
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Wed Jun-24-09 12:22 PM
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24. You should really work for Ford. |
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...or, at least, the Ford of the past 30 years.
They got better medical benefits than I do and their retirement packages provided them for life.
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Wed Jun-24-09 12:18 PM
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21. Me too, I want the same policy my employees have. nt |
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Wed Jun-24-09 12:23 PM
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25. It's good, and available to ALL fed employees, goes through private insurers |
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isn't all paid for; part of premium paid by employer like most group insurance benefits.
People need to stop believing the old RW emails about congressional coverage.
Fed employees can get some decent insurance and companies cannot exclude pre-existing conditions, but it is not some holy grail of coverage.
I still pay 20% of covered care, 100% of other care, and co-pays. Just wrote a check out the other day, in fact, for doctor visit and lab work.
I am working for health insurance for all, but it doesn't get easier when DEMs spread RW talking points to confuse the issue.
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Wed Jun-24-09 01:10 PM
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29. Give me a Senator's salary, then I'll choose my plan n/t |
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Wed Jun-24-09 01:22 PM
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30. That would be acceptable to me. |
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In fact whatever they decide to give us should automatically apply to them as well.
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Thu Jun-25-09 04:40 AM
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37. Do the senators actually use it? Or do they spend their millions on private care? |
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