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Tue Jun-30-09 12:55 PM
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I am no fan of Sarah Palin, but I'm standing up for her on this one |
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Shame on Mccain and his "staffers". Apparently now, they are telling tales about how difficult Sarah was, and how un-ready she was for "prime time"..
DUH!!
McCain was too big of a coward to pick his own running-mate, and allowed his "advisers" to choose for him.
he's so ensconced in 1958, that he apparently thinks that women are interchangeable.. like Legos ..
The Dems had Hillary, so he needed a "gal" too, so why not get a "purty one".. a sexy one.
He wanted Joe Lieberman to run with him, or maybe his little wingman, Lindsay, but he was too weak to even choose his own running mate, and now that he admits what WE all knew from the get-go, he's got people out there trashing her. This is spite, and nothing more, but HE asked her, and only HE is to blame for the way things turned out for him.
All he's proving is that he would have made a TERRIBLE president. He's got no class.
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Tue Jun-30-09 12:58 PM
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1. The fact that he allowed Palin to be the pick was indicative of his unreadiness. |
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:03 PM
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10. And, his lackeyed-ness...They're both |
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stupid twits..they can go at it.
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Tue Jun-30-09 12:58 PM
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2. An astute observation... |
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Damn good thing the buck doesn't stop there, eh?
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Tue Jun-30-09 12:58 PM
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3. I absolutely agree with yur assessment! |
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Tue Jun-30-09 12:59 PM
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4. And shame on Palin for accepting knowing she had these |
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family issues about to be go public. She's shameless and her ego doesn't allow her to realize she is not national candidate material.
I can't stand up for her. She's an embarrassment to all the intelligent women who could have been chosen.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:58 PM
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How many times did she wink and flirt during the debate with Joe?
Palin is used to getting by on her good looks, not by using intelligence. And at her age, that's a very sad thing.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:05 PM
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23. Her Betty Boop imitation |
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Disgusting for someone her age and also someone who is supposedly a mother.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:01 PM
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5. Sorry I don't feel the need to defend the manipulator. |
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I'm not happy that anyone is being treated unfairly but I remember well how she treated Obama- what goes around and all that.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:01 PM
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:06 PM
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13. I'm not really "defending" her. I loathe her, but she did not storm into his denate office |
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and demand to be put on the ticket.. HE asked her.. HE's the one at fault.. She is what she is, and we all saw it immediately, he was too dense to see it..
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:17 PM
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16. Or he did see it but thought all women were like that |
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so what's the problem?
In any case, he was a terrible candidate not only for his incompetent selection of a running mate but for his overall ignorance of the world as it is today.
His choice of Phil Gramm as financial adviser was more odious to me than his choice of Palin was.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:19 PM
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17. He's not dense - he's a jerk and he hoped his plan would work |
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she's a jerk too though so they were the perfect couple. It' s okay if you feel compassion for her, I just can't or won't, I'm not sure which.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:01 PM
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:02 PM
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8. McCain is older, has more experience... |
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He should have known better than to allow such things... to be said OR done! They didn't learn a damn thing during the campaign. Obama showed how much classier it is NOT to be an asshole toward your opponent. The more the GOPers whine, the better it is for Dems going forward. Let 'em whine... poke 'em with a sharp stick if they stop;)
He is no better than she; both are NOT ready for prime time, that's for sure.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:02 PM
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9. I agree. It's bad form that will bite them in the butt later. McCain should not have gone along |
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with RNC honchos that wanted him to pick her.
Blame McCain.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:04 PM
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11. Anyone who has lived in Alaska knows this: The Lead Dog Has the Best View. |
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Sarah's problem was that she didn't do what the SECOND dog is supposed to do, which is stick their nose up the ass of the lead dog. Instead, she wanted to pull the sled in a completely different direction.
She chose to get in harness; she should have "behaved." Message adjustment is what happens when you make that kind of agreement--Biden did it, GHWB did it, Gore did it. About the only one who didn't do it was Cheney--because he was the lead dog, and Porgie was riding on his back.
Of COURSE McCain picked a woman. He was anticipating a ticket that had Obama and Clinton on it. His problem is, he picked the WRONG woman.
Yeah, he would have made a terrible president--but she would have made an even worse VP. A very toxic person, is the AK guv.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:06 PM
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12. After all her "I'm afraid of that terrorist Obama" rallies, she deserves what she gets. |
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NO sympathy here. She tried to incite lynch mob mentality on the campaign trail. The more she's exposed as bad news, the better.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:10 PM
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14. Perhaps this is one of his more patriotic "mavericky" things to do |
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Perhaps he's trying to save us from her being the head of the GOP ticket in 2012? Even HE knows a Palin Presidency would be a big mistake. Just a thought ...
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:12 PM
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15. I'm a huge fan. So much so that I want her to be the nominee in 2012. |
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:08 PM
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24. You're right, but why stop there. She could run for the next four elections. |
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:16 PM
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25. I hereby propose a new GOP leadership position of Queen. That way |
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they have to keep nominating her every election cycle.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:38 PM
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30. Lemme tell ya a little story from Arizona |
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Back in the 80s there was this crazy wingnut who wanted to run for governor. Some Dems thought it would be a good idea to support him in the GOP primary. They formed a group to help and raise funds for him. They were very pleased with themselves because they thought, surely, this loon couldn't possibly survive a general election. The crazy guy won his primary and went on to win the Governor's race. His name was Evan Mecham. Before he was impeached for being a crook he distinguished himself worldwide for refusing to sign the MLK holiday and causing the Super Bowl to pull out of AZ. Moral of the story: Be careful what you wish for.
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:21 PM
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18. Bill Clinton once called this writer a "scumbag" |
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The Vanity Fair writer in question published a hit piece against Bill Clinton last year. ""Calling Purdum a 'scumbag,' Clinton said 'he's one of the guys that propagated all those lies about Whitewater for Kenneth Starr. He's just a dishonest guy -- can't help it.'"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/bill-clinton-purdhum-a-sl_b_104771.html
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:27 PM
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19. That says more about McCain and his staff than it says about Palin. |
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They chose her. It's not she barged in and staged a coup to become their VP nominee. They can just cowboy up and take responsibility for their poor judgment (for which I am grateful). :nopity:
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Tue Jun-30-09 01:32 PM
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20. I;m a littel like us cheering the continuing Iran/Iraq war, and enjoying the |
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low gas prices. McCain is one of the few decent scolds the rethugs have left. Another bomb bomb Iran would do me fine bout now. Senior moment, I'll take it. And while McCain and Palin play Andy Kaufmann and wrestler chic, I will go around back and get on hands and knees behind them. If they request dueling pistols, I will oblige. Sure glad with all their impetuousness, their most deadly weapon is a tongue, instead of an itchy trigger finger, on a red button.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:19 PM
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she took the offer for VP, she takes the slings and arrows that go with it.
tough shit for that sociopath.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:28 PM
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can't stand up for Sarah Palin under most any circumstances.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:31 PM
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28. A smart woman would have recognized she was being used |
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I think several potential VP picks backed away because they knew that McCain was a loosing ticket and didn't want to sully their reputation. Because Palin had very little political savvy she didn't the sinking ship when she saw it.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:34 PM
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29. Oh there was mutual using going on there. Palin is not known to treat people around |
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her very well either. I say these two deserved each other.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:45 PM
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31. McCain comes off looking bad too |
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since he chose a "difficult" and "un-ready" VP. This person would've been one step from the presidency and McCain potentially put our country in the hands of an "un-ready" VP. I don't feel bad for Palin though. She used McCain just as much as McCain used her. I don't think Palin would've ever risen to national prominence without being selected as VP. Now, she actually as the potential to be the Republican nominee for President of the United States.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:48 PM
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32. and now he's "sending" out his minions to do the dirty work |
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if they are doing it on their own, he does not command much loyalty from they people he had closest to him..
bad judgment from him, all-round
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:54 PM
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33. Palin did say after the election |
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Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 02:56 PM by blue_onyx
that not using her enough was a mistake, so she has been critical of McCain too. Palin will fight back and get just as "dirty" as McCain.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:55 PM
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34. I already knew McCain had no class left, |
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but Palin is also classless and a major hypocrite herself, so I think it's a good thing McCain and his people are airing their dirty laundry. Now if only Palin and her people would follow suit we could get a good circular republican firing squad started.
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:57 PM
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35. She didn't have to accept the nomination. |
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Sure, McCain was an idiot for even offering her the chance. The fact that she was even on the list just shows that McCain didn't have the backbone to say "No" to his advisers. But, she also should have been smart enough to know she wasn't ready.
If the things they are saying are true, she's an even bigger self-absorbed idiot than I thought.
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Tue Jun-30-09 03:27 PM
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36. This is an example of why she gets what she gets. |
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Tue Jun-30-09 04:15 PM
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37. Palin may have prevented a total wipe out for McCain |
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The Republican base had no love for McCain but were energised by Palin.
McCain's campaign was dead in water until he selected Palin.
People at the rallies came to see Palin and not McCain.
It is no fault of Palin's that McCain was severely handicapped by being tied to the most unpopular President ever recorded.
It is no fault of Palin's that McCain looked and acted old, grumpy and past his prime.
It is no fault of Palin's that McCain couldn't hope to match the fund raising ability of the Obama campaign.
It's highly unlikely that any Republican could have defeated the Obama juggernaut.
While members of McCain's campaign staff may quibble about Palin and her performance, the blame for McCain's defeat lies with them, McCain himself and forces beyond anyone's control.
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Tue Jun-30-09 05:06 PM
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38. plenty of blame to go around, so I'll give Sarah Palin her fair share. |
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Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 05:11 PM by ErinBerin84
Stupid of McCain staffers to think she would be qualified and act as if they were forced to go along, and stupid of Palin to think, and still think, she was qualified for the national stage. Yes, unnamed sources are pretty shitty, but someone who calls herself a pitbull in lipstick and thinks that she's contender in 2012 should get fucking USED TO IT. No sympathy. It's politics.
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