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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 01:45 AM
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No Sale
You can't sell peace to war profiteers. Can't do it. They won't buy. You can't sell the truth to habitual liars. They're not interested. You can't sell election reform to those who get what they want with the system in place as it is now. It's just not possible.

You can't sell fair play to a cheater. If they can't guarantee a win, they won't play.

You can't sell equal rights and equal access to a bigot. All the sincerity and all the honesty in the world doesn't matter.

You can't sell reproductive choice and freedom to people who think they have a "God-Given" right to dictate their conscience to other people. It's just not happening.

You can't sell equal justice to those who exist and thrive by pushing injustice.

You can't sell alternative energy to the oil companies, or universal healthcare to the insurance companies. They have no reason to buy it and every reason to oppose it.

You can't sell liberalism to those who've sworn to destroy us. There's no common ground between those who believe in serving all of us and those who have dedicated themselves to serving only a small group of the powerful elite.

It's just not possible. How can we hope to gain ground when they believe EVERYTHING we stand for is simply wrong? When people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, and a host of others spend every waking moment trying to think of new ways of marginalizing our message? When powerful and wealthy religious leaders call us evil and those we support "demon-possessed?"

I'm trying to figure out precisely how we're supposed to make peace, how to attain "bi-partisanship" without giving up everything for which we stand.

I know there are those who believe that, somehow, against all evidence to the contrary, there is common ground to be found. We already know we don't see things the same way, that the mechanics of our brains are totally different. So many of them are trapped in an either/or, black/white, right/wrong dichotomy that our perspective might as well be that of a completely alien species to them.

There might actually BE common ground, but I'm not sure how we can find it. We believe peace is possible, they believe it's not. We believe that there's value in a world where everyone can prosper, they believe that prospering is a "God-Given" boon and any failure to do so is proof of God's disfavor or, at best, evidence of a lack of moral character.

What common ground we may have is buried under six inches of swamp water infested with venomous snakes. How long can we afford to stand there waiting for them to meet us there without risking a multitude of snake bites in the meantime?

Yes, there IS the possibility of reaching out to those who have been misguided into thinking that the Republican Party has their interests at heart. But how do we do so when they control nearly every avenue for making that reach?

"Blind taste tests" reveal that a vast majority of Americans actually support progressive goals. Yet somehow in the midst of the so-called "culture war" we can't seem to make the connection between what they say they want and how we can bring it into being.

It's not the middle-of-the-road, triangulated, corporate-friendly centrism that speaks to them. It's far more progressive than that. Yet when we come to do battle with the other side, we don't seem to be able to speak to the attitudes we share. We hide it away, and allow the Republicans, and the complicit corporate media, to define who we are and what we want America to be. We don't strive to define ourselves, and marginalize those with the courage to do so.

And wonder why the collective response of all too many Americans turns out to be "No Sale."
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 02:02 AM
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1. Amazing post
simply amazing and absolutely true.
I think you need to send this far and wide.
K&R.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 02:09 AM
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2. Thank you...
Not sure where to send it. It's too long for a LTTE. DU is the best venue I've found for possibly getting the most people to see something, and I've always given permission to share anything I write as long as the proper attribution is included.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 02:11 AM
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3. How about starting with congressional members
Personally I am still livid that Baucus has not been removed from his committee for conflict of interest.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 02:31 AM
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5. I think our whole setup has become a conflict of interest... Grrr...
But, yeah, good suggestion. I may edit it a little, add a few more gotchas, but sending it to Congress might be a very fine idea.

Right now I'd settle for a handful of recs. :D
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 09:57 AM
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13. Brilliant and inspired piece. Please do follow up with
a little editing and send it to Congressional members who have the potential of listening. I wish the White House would be receptive too. Thanks for writing this.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 08:47 AM
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12. the democratic party isn't entirely based on the ideals you aspouse
the corporatists still control the agenda in both parties.
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 02:18 AM
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4. Wow good post. n/t
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 02:33 AM
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6. K and R
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 02:58 AM
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7. There's a difference between Repub voters and Repub officeholders
At least Dem advocates of single payer have a few Dem officeholders on our side. Our Repub compatriots don't. They have a website, though.

http://republicansforsinglepayer.com/?p=1
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:04 AM
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8. Conservatives for single-payer.
Whoodathunkit?

Glad to know they're out there. I take it they get even less access than OUR single payer advocates.

Problem is that "conservative" doesn't really mean what it used to mean.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:08 AM
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9. These folks like it because it is the cheapest way to get health care for all
Fiscal conservatism used to be, well......conservative!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:27 AM
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10. Conservative used to mean conservative
not reactionary.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 05:22 AM
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11. Two of my favorite quotes (altered slightly to fit the circumstances)
"Never argue with a man whose job (or politics) depends on not being convinced." H.L. Mencken

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary (or his politics) depends upon his not understanding it." Upton Sinclair

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:45 PM
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14. Self Kick
because "post-partisanship" is bullshit.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 08:00 PM
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15. !
:applause:
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