Fuck you MSNBC and your marijuana disinfo

[That Is Quite Enough]

I just caught a couple minutes of "Dr. Nancy" or whatever the fuck you call it, and they were discussing cannabinoid drugs and marijuana legalization. I hope the rest of the program was more watchable than those few agonizing minutes I suffered through.

Some tool kept blithering about how weed was dangerous and ruined the lives of children all over AMerica. (Hey man, then why is alcohol legal?!)

Even the token supporter of legalizing medical MJ never called out anyone on the bullshit they were spewing about how addictive and dangerous marijuana is.

We need some sort of public awareness campaign to combat this shit. Thanks to shows like Dr. Nancy, the public is completely misinformed about weed. Fuck.

Sorry, but it kinda frustrates me to see such utter bullshit go completely unchallenged and accepted.

[bamacrat]

1. We need to rally .

Send out info to people that is factual and not hype.

[spanone]

2. the good news is she probably has about 14 viewers.

[That Is Quite Enough]

3. True, true. When I first turned to it I thought "Have I ever even heard of this before?"

The show, that is. Not weed.

[RaleighNCDUer]

5. Who already agree with her anyway. nt

[monmouth]

7. I was just going to type that. My tv is off but who would be watching

except people with the tv on for background while they vacuum or some other task.

[csziggy]

33. Usually after Morning Joe was off I had MSNBC on in the background

Until their new line up started. Dylan Ratigan is just flat out obnoxious, Dr. Nancy is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Whatever the filler are between those two and up until David Schuster and Tamron Hall come on at 3 PM are just plain annoying.

So now I am spending more time watching cooking, decorating and science shows. I guess that is better than crap news.

[monmouth]

35. Avoid the Barefoot Contessa, she can put 5 lbs. a week on you very quickly...LOL...n/t

[csziggy]

36. Heck, I can gain 10 pounds watching one Paula Deen show!

I might watch Paula Deen or Ina Garten (Barefoot Contessa), but I find very few of their recipes I want to cook. Usually Paula has too much butter and fat, and Ina has too many 'exotic' ingredients I either can't get or don't have around - or too expensive for my tastes and my pocketbook.

Emeril Lagassee now has a good show on Planet Green Network, Emeril Green, about cooking green and healthy, so I have been watching that one at lot. I never liked his other shows with the "Bam!" crap and big audiences, but on this one he works one on one with people who need help cooking healthier or learning to cook with local, green foods. The show is pretty much an ad for Whole Foods stores - it is set in a Whole Foods and they "shop" for what they will cook in the store, pushing their local suppliers and products.

I watch Alton Brown for food science, and Giada De Laurentiis for her real Italian cuisine that is not the tomato sauce cheese loaded stuff I grew up with. There are some like Guy Fieri that I watch for entertainment value but I can't eat what they cook (Guy uses a lot of hot peppers and I am allergic to capsacin). Too bad the "healthy cooking" shows are just flat out boring or annoying - Ellie Krieger just irritates me, though I know her food is healthy there is something about her constant grin that rubs me wrong.

[monmouth]

37. Okay, Emeril it is for me. I'm trying to eat healthier so this is what I

most likely should be watching. I ordered and received the RediSetGo cooker. Hope I can incorporate healthy with my new toy...

[csziggy]

38. I've been pretty good - usually after each surgery or injury I gain 20 pounds

Which for the last four or five I was unable to take off. With this last surgery, I cut way, way back on my serving sizes and actually LOST five pounds! That and we signed up for veggies from a local organic farmer in a CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) so I've been cooking with more fresh veggies than usual. This works great as incentive to eat more veggies and less meat since I have to use up all the veggies before the bag for next week gets here.

I'm only eating about 3-4 ounces of meat per day, some cheese, eggs and dairy products on some days, and any grains are whole grains. Everything else is vegetables, almost all of those are organic locally grown one. The nice thing is that I don't feel hungry!

Now that I have started physical therapy for the shoulder, if I can keep eating the same way I did while doing nothing but sleeping with Vicodin I should lose weight even if I don't do a lot of exercise.

I may get an elliptical trainer machine - they are going for really, really cheap on Craigslist ($75-100). But I will wait until the physical therapist thinks I am ready and try one out at the PT center to see how my knees will handle it. My sister lost over 100 pounds using one of those things, though she had to do it religiously since she didn't change her eating habits.

[slackmaster]

9. Yes, I've never heard of her before reading this thread

I have a job and don't get many opportunities to watch daytime TV. There's always something better to do, like watching drywall mud dry.

[tridim]

4. MSNBC's new morning lineup is quickly reaching massive FAIL levels

If the average viewer is anything like me, they're tuning out. They went from pretty bad, but acceptable to completely unwatchable last month.

[Democrats_win]

6. Follow the money? The M$M is no longer an objective voice.

[Uncle Joe]

13. There is a group in California running ads for legalization and

three station are refusing to run their ad.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20090708/US.Marijuana.Commercial/

SAN FRANCISCO — A pro-marijuana group launched a television advertisement Wednesday in California advocating legalization and taxation of the drug to help solve the state's budget woes.

The 30-second spot, airing Wednesday and paid for by the Marijuana Policy Project, features a retired 58-year-old state worker who says state leaders "are ignoring millions of Californians who want to pay taxes."

"We're marijuana consumers," says Nadene Herndon of Fair Oaks, who says she began using marijuana after suffering multiple strokes three years ago. "Instead of being treated like criminals for using a substance safer than alcohol, we want to pay our fair share."

<SNIP>

[rcrush]

8. I see the same thing posted here sometimes

Pot still has the stigma of being bad. A lot of people just assume that because its illegal then its bad. Lot of pro authority people around I guess. But these same people also like to brag about how they like to drink.

[intheflow]

14. That's what kills me.

The people who are downing copious amounts of alcohol while poo-poo-ing weed. I've never seen anyone turn violent on weed, or belligerent, or puke all over the house, or pee in a corner b/c they were so fucked up they thought they were in the bathroom. But I've seen those behaviors with alcohol often. Yet the people I saw behaving this way had jobs where they drove or operated heavy equipment. They were drug tested up the wazoo, but since alcohol is legal, no one ever tested them for that. Absolute and total bullshit drug laws in this country.

[Echo In Light]

10. It sucks, but remember that M$M is basically preaching to a very narrow choir of authoritarians....

...which is mainly comprised of middle aged/elderly (the ones who hated hippies), and soccer moms (or some variant thereof, and their propaganda-addled, obedient little apple polisher offspring) who actually buys into that horse shit. As de-politicized as people generally are here, many have long understood what's what re weed since most have at least tried it, and know plenty of people who smoke regularly.

[Orsino]

11. And not a word about the legalization of alcohol, which kills? n/t

[Echo In Light]

12. Taxed drugs = Good. Untaxed drugs = Bad.

[Twinguard]

23. Solution?

Legalize it and tax it!

Why is this such a difficult concept for so many people to grasp?

[Echo In Light]

25. Bogeyman propaganda, laziness, lack of organization/national platform, bought/paid for congress

It's simultaneously amazing and horrific the amount of really stupid shit that, over the course of time, many come to hold as truth - the crucial fallacy being that they are helpless, and cannot strive to bring about altruistic change.

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. K&R

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

16. She's a corporate tool, GE & Disney. She also used to work for Johnson & Johnson. She let it

slip once on The Today Show (a regular gig of hers).

Interesting tidbit about her in Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Snyderman#Career

In 1999, Snyderman returned over $50,000 to DrKoop.com, a healthcare website based in Austin, Texas, after violating insider trading rules prohibiting corporate officers and directors from profiting from a stock sale within six months of buying shares. At the time, she was a director of DrKoop.com, founded by a former Surgeon General of the United States, C. Everett Koop. Her husband, an investment banker, bought 1,650 shares of DrKoop.com, during its initial public offering (IPO) for $9 a share, and sold it a month later at $41.27 a share.<3>

[Echo In Light]

17. Good data to unearth, Om. Thanky

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

20. For you Echo? Always my pleasure!

:hi:

[Echo In Light]

26. And back at ya...

:toast:

[proud patriot]

18. we really need to write her and demand

an apology saying pot is more dangerous than ciggarettes will kill
a lot of children ..

[proud patriot]

21. Here's a contact page

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31570131/ns/health-health_care


I demanded her to retract the dangerous lie about pot and
ciggs being equally dangerous and addictive .

[county worker]

19. We need to end the war on drugs. The reason people say what they do in my opinion is that they are

making tons of money off the war on drugs. They need to keep it going. If we would end the war on drugs, decriminalize drugs, treat substance abuse as a illness like alcoholism we would save a lot of money in incarcerations and law enforcement but those who thrive off of the war on drugs would need to find other sources of income.

By telling people that drugs are dangerous they keep the war on drugs alive, yet the war has little or no effect on drug abuse.

[Roon]

22. Weed is decriminalized here in colorado.

You wouldn't believe the people I see here smoking in public. You just get a ticket and a $100.00 fine. Go in front of the judge and demand a jury trial. 99.9% of the time the charges are dropped. They will make you wait until there is a trial date before they drop the charges. I don't plea bargain,you just got to stand up for yourself.

[Recursion]

24. OK, you really want RJR or Brown & Williamson making joints?

However "non-addictive" pot is now, it will be very addictive once they get done with it.

[dysfunctional press]

28. i'd rather have land o'lakes making/selling green butter...

or the pillsbury dough boy adding it to boxes of brownie mix.

[dysfunctional press]

27. "it kinda frustrates me to see such utter bullshit go completely unchallenged and accepted"

it's been like that for many many years.

"We need some sort of public awareness campaign to combat this shit."

great idea!
maybe we could form a group to do just that, and call it something cool like...'the national organization for the reform of marijuana laws'.

whaddya think? :hippie:

[applegrove]

29. I've talked to professionals and weed does cause some mental illnesses. I've heard it

from various sources.

[mitchtv]

30. Sure it does honey

those professionals are soooo wise

[applegrove]

31. Well they certainly are not infallable. I know that better than anyone. But I've

read it and heard it firsthand so I would believe it.

[mitchtv]

34. I smoked for close to 50 years

Still no breakdown/cancer/ emphysema etc

[Fozzledick]

32. Only in those who don't smoke it. It sometimes makes them hysterical and irrational.

[Forkboy]

40. I talk to professionals weekly who say it can help those with mental illness.

Next?

[Forkboy]

39. I missed it. I was playing hackey sack as my mac and cheese was cooking.