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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 10:57 AM Original message |
Will the Green Jobs of the Future end up like the IT jobs in India |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. I have few answers |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
2. What's kicking our ass in green jobs is we're slow to innovate |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Your WRONG on that |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That's how it was with IT, but... |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. and Intel already gave China 12" wafer technology |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I just took your last statement - about US leading in R&D - at face value. |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I just told you - ALL R&D performed in USA |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Intel also opened up a state-of-the-art, 32nm, manufacturing plant in Arizona. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Intel extorted a massive tax break out of AZ too. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. Not me! |
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ChromeFoundry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Yep... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Well said!!! |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 05:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
45. With the present economy I'll bitch about any country of then America |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Ahh, the "globalist" vs. "nativist" debate (to allow each side to label the other) - |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Oh hi. |
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ChromeFoundry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. you didn't seem all that suprised... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'm starting to know each one's schtick by heart. eom |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Damn, you called that quick. n/t |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I prefer to consider myself "consistent" but I suppose if you don't agree |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. It took me an hour instead of a minute. Sorry about that. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Who'se closed to that idea? Africa would undoubtedly do a better job than China or India... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. My guess is those who complain about the tariff differential between the rich and poor countries |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. That's nice but where are we in the West going to get the money to pay for them? |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. In 2008 we were the third largest exporting country, close behind Germany and China, |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Right, because an availability of goods means everyone has money in their pockets to pay for them. |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Show me 1 other country not engaged in protecting their economy |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Would you make an OP pointing that out? |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. I believe that the US and the rest of the developed world agreed to allow tariffs for the developing |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. The lovely goal of "promoting economic development in poor countries" is secondary |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. China still has tariffs on our goods because we agreed to it in the last world trade negotiations. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Who's "we"? I wasn't consulted and neither were you. eom |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. By "we" I meant our government. If you prefer to use "they", then substitute that pronoun into |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 12:19 AM Response to Reply #28 |
41. Trade Sanctions with China and India are a 1 way St. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:43 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. China doesn't have trade pact with the US, but they were admitted to the WTO/GATT (Clinton's |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 05:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. A what point do you admit it is a FAILED POLICY |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 06:20 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Are you against tariff differentials for really poor countries or just China and India? |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Why does being against Globalization equate Bigotry with you |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 04:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Why does a question about different tariffs for poor countries equate with an accusation of bigotry |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 06:03 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. EU has trade barriers to protect manufacturing |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 06:42 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Nonetheless, China exports more to the EU than to the US. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. Not only that, |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. You mean he wants to race the Chinese to secure Africa's natural resources |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Dragging the U.S. down to fight with the 3rd world over scraps isn't going to help anyone |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. If it's expansion, nobody's job would have been hurt. What people are seeing is migration. |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. Those "green jobs" are already being sent to India & China... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. Yes... we shouldn't even TRY to create a "green economy" with new jobs so this can't happen... |
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ChromeFoundry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I didn't read that into the OP |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
53. It is not unreasonable to expect that "Stimulus" jobs... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
21. Uh-oh. Expect a certain group of wankers to berate you until the end of time... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
27. So yell "uncle" before we start? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Interesting take, |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-12-09 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
30. The Green jobs will all go to Greenland where they rightfully belong. n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
47. Barring some very unlikely event that literally reforms the US government and kills |
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