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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 10:51 AM
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And don't forget the Congressional Moonies who crowned Rev Moon Messiah in the Dirksen Senate Bldg!
DC seems full of batshit cultists intent on taking down our Government from within. Sen. John Warner booked the Dirksen Building for this event.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61932-2004Jun22.html

The Rev. Moon Honored at Hill Reception
Lawmakers Say They Were Misled

By Charles Babington and Alan Cooperman
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, June 23, 2004; Page A01

More than a dozen lawmakers attended a congressional reception this year honoring the Rev. Sun Myung Moon in which Moon declared himself the Messiah and said his teachings have helped Hitler and Stalin be "reborn as new persons."


At the March 23 ceremony in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Rep. Danny K. Davis (D-Ill.) wore white gloves and carried a pillow holding an ornate crown that was placed on Moon's head. The Korean-born businessman and religious leader then delivered a long speech saying he was "sent to Earth . . . to save the world's six billion people. . . . Emperors, kings and presidents . . . have declared to all Heaven and Earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent."

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 10:53 AM
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1. Moon is just plain creepy
and that elected representatives of the people are helping him---gives me the ugh feeling.

I'm not a Christian, and definitely not a fundamentalist--but how come the rwing Christians aren't denouncing Moon as the anti-Christ? Is it because of his conservative politics?
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:52 AM
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5. That is exactly it.
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 11:55 AM by angrycarpenter
I posted a long article on another board where conservatives post. I it wrote myself and supplied all wikipedia links and a bunch of pictures backing up my claims. It was met with yawns and the theory that George Soros was much, much worse. They don't care. I put the fact that his son owns Kahr firearms in the article and one of the replies was on how good their pistols are.

Edit to give link to repost here.http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=110x13052
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:57 PM
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17. I suspect they owe him too much.
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 02:00 PM by juno jones
Follow the money. :)

PS Just finished reading 'Monkey On A Stick' about the Hare Krishnas who rose to ascendancy about the same time and pulled many of the same scams (airports, etc). I find it interesting that the Krishnas and the Rajneeshies are no more, but Moon lives on.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:10 PM
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21. Precisely...

Moon was once an important part of the Anti Communist League (ACL) until he got kicked out for being too fascist. (Literally, there were WWII Japanese fascists who helped him come to power). Moon derived much of his wealth from the Asian underworld. All these people care about is wealth and power, and they will allow their ideology to be warped in order to accomodate it.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 01:17 AM
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27. can you advise where you found he was kicked out of WACL? I don't think that is true.
Maybe I am confusing organizations since the World Anti Communist League went by other names. The Moon organization claims they left WACL in the 70s because it was anti Semitic. The members point to that - when they "withdrew" from a gathering of them in the 70s as proof they are not a fascist and Anti-Semitic sect. However, the Moon organization is nothing if it isn't deceptive. I find nothing they say that is the whole story. In fact, as you will see below, they still had a presence in WACL in the 80s. The head of the UC in Japan also headed the Japan version of WACL.

side note...When Jimmie Carter cut support for Operation Condor it was the Unification Church, Moon, who picked up the slack and supported the fascist torturing dictators in South America, like Stroessner. Martin Almada documented this when he uncovered what is referred to as the "Archives of Terror" in Paraguay.

But I don't think Moon was ever kicked out of the organization he helped build but I am open to correction. Keep in mind, Moon uses operatives as his ties to these groups. He may not personally be a member of the Council for National Policy, but people he funds and is tied to are for sure. Like Tim Lahaye who took Moon cash and was on the board of a Moon front.

Excerpt from the book "Inside the League” – Scott Anderson and Jon Lee Anderson 1986

1984 17th Annual World Anti-Communist League convention San Diego, Ca.

General Alfredo Stroessner, the dictator of Paraguay, sent a telegram thanking the League for “Defending the world from the Marxist tyranny,” then went on to boast breathlessly of his own contributions to the cause. <...>

The crowning endorsement, however, had to be that of President Ronald Reagan.

It is an honor to send warm greetings to all those gathered for the 17th Annual Conference of the World Anti-Communist League in San Diego. The World Anti-Communist League has long played a leadership role in drawing attention to the gallant struggle now being waged by the true freedom fighters of our day. Nancy and I send our best wishes for every future success. ...

Another element objectionable to some mainstream conservatives, the Unification Church, had not been purged in San Diego. In fact, its presence had grown. Many of the American observers to the conference were involved with Reverend Sun Myung Moon through any one of his myriad front groups. Among these were Ray Cline, Director of the United States Global Security Council, and Roger Fontaine, a former National Security Council official and (then) a reporter for the Moon-owned Washington Times. The Reverend Moon may have called the League a “fascist” organization in 1975, but he still wanted to be part of it in 1984.


suggested link fro info on WACL:

http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/articles/display/World_Anti-Communist_League
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:52 AM
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34. I'll look for the information regarding WACL, but I think it is related to...

investigations into the sources of Moon's wealth:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon4.html

...

In Moon's case, the Asian connection is especially relevant, because of scandals surrounding his early activities in America. U.S. law-enforcement and intelligence agencies monitored the church in the 1960s and '70s, considering it a potential national security threat to the United States. Reports by the CIA, the FBI and Defense Intelligence Agency painted a picture of a secretive religion with close ties to South Korea's brutal intelligence service, the KCIA, as well as to prominent right-wing industrialists linked to the Japanese mob, the yakuza.

In the late 1970s, a congressional investigation drew on these reports in tying the Unification Church to "Koreagate," an influence-buying scheme directed by the KCIA against American targets. Investigators traced the church's chief sources of money to bank accounts in Japan, but could follow the cash no further.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:39 AM
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35. It really looks like history is being rewritten....

probably because of Moon's close relationship to the Bush family, and other officials. Singlaub told the AP that by 1984 he had purged the WACL of extremist elements. He was pressured to do so because of the blatantly fascist South American groups, but keep in mind that Moon was extremely active in South America (drug activities) as well, and I notice that Brazil had him under investigation in 1999.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:29 PM
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38. Isn't that hilarious? there's more...
Singlaub told the AP that by 1984 he had purged the WACL of extremist elements.

I know the word 'extremist' gets tossed around a lot these days, more than it should probably, but SINGLAUB saying they purged extremists I find rather funny. Not the same exactly but I picture Fred Phelps saying he purged his group of homophobes.

You are right about Moon being investigated in SA. However, as is often the case, you can read about his place being raided, then nothing. The only thing that pops up in the interim is a story of how Moon gave some SA town some ambulances.

The UC, the church itself, has been guilty of swindling hundreds of millions(likely billions) from widows in Japan and you haven't read a peep about that in the American press for years. Get that? The "church" that admits most of its money to fund its activities in the USA comes form Japan, that owns the propaganda mouthpiece of the conservative movement swindles widows out hundreds of millions in Japan and it isn't news here.

Or how about when a group of 700 members of this "church" that claims to be for "peace" smashes up a newspaper, attacked with violence and threats including threatening the life of a reporter who had the audacity to be critical of them and you don't here peep in the USA press.

read it here:
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2006082489308

That sort of thing happens a lot. When Moon was implicated in shark poaching ring and audio of his poaching pastor telling his congregation about the operation and how he told Moon, the AP reported it with excerpts from the audio that plainly show he discussed the operation with Moon who wanted to expand the operation. Then a later, more widely circulated version of the AP went out in which they scrubbed ALL reference to the audio and quoted a Moon propagandist saying that Moon knew nothing of the shark operation. Two things - the UC paid $500,000 to keep from being prosecuted in the case and ...well you listen to the Moon minister's sermon and see if you think Moon "knew" anything about the operation. He talks explicitly about telling Moon late in the audio.

http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/m/moonies/test/

But the one you would think our media would at least check into and debunk or not is the Bushes buying all that land near Moon in Paraguay. You'd think with the potential of prosecutions of Bush for high crimes that would at least be debunked or not. There were reports of it from SA but the USA media didn't touch it.

Or for that matter the media here take the Bush spin that they just like Moon's "peace" efforts when they shill for him. In fact, ALL of Moon's "peace" fronts are part of his "messianic" mission, you can't separate Moon's fronts from his "mission" - the UC members know all of "Father's projects" are about his "messianic" mission including the Washington Times which was created to mold our political system right while Moon also funded the theocrats, his wet dream.

And people still wonder what happened to the Republican Party and the conservative movement, why they went off their collective rockers in the 80s. haha It is obvious. Look who they invited into their movement, accepted. The new right today mirrors his homophobic, authoritarian, union hating, theofascist agenda. All Moon wants is to be accepted as a player and let to do his manipulation thing/influence game and the Republican Party did that. IMO, Moon is the primary reason our nation has lost its way.

this is how James Whelan put it. Scoobie Davis transcribed this from the talk by Whelan, I strongly suggest you watch this video if you have not already:

quoting Whelan:

http://tinyurl.com/yqqbmz

"They (the Moonies) are subverting our political system. They're doing it through front organizations--most of them disguised--and through their funding of independent organizations--through the placement of volunteers in the inner sanctums of hard-pressed organizations. In every instance--in every instance--those who attend their conferences, those who accept their money or their volunteers, delude themselves that there is no loss of virtue because the Moonies have not proselytized. That misses the central, crucial point: the Moonies are a political movement in religious clothing. Moon seeks power, not the salvation of souls. To achieve that, he needs religious fanatics as his palace guard and shock troops. But more importantly, he needs secular conscripts--seduced by money, free trips, free services, seemingly endless bounty and booty--in order to give him respectability and, with it, that image of influence which translates as power."

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 01:24 PM
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41. Here is a good article...

that warns of the return of fascism to Japan:

http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-296-the-return-of-the-rising-sun-the-reemergence-of-fascism-in-japan/

8...These murky links can best be illustrated, Mr. Harinaka argues, by looking at a key figure in the prewar Japanese right who forms a direct link to the politics of today, the late Yoshio Kodama. His life illustrates the interweaving of far right fanaticism, big business, organized crime and government.... In the 1960’s, he teamed up with a then unknown South Korean right-winger, ‘the Reverend’ Sun Myung Moon, and Ryoichi Sasakawa, a Japanese motor boat racing millionaire. Sasakawa had organized Japanese Blackshirt since the 1930’s and once described himself as the world’s richest fascist. The three, with the help of South Korean intelligence and Taiwanese dictator Chiang Kai-Shek, helped form the Asian People’s Anti-Communist League. The League set up and funded Moon’s Freedom Center in the United States in 1964. Kodama was chief adviser for the Moon subsidiary, Win Over Communism. In 1966, the League merged with the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations to form the World Anti-Communist League, a major international network of fascists and anti semites featured many times in the pages of Searchlight.” (Idem.)
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 05:36 PM
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43. AntiFascist if you have not you might want to
read "Inside the League" by Anderson/Anderson which I quoted.

Emory reads Carla Binion's article here then plays an old interview with Daniel Junas. Junas thinks Moon is not just funded by Japanese fascists, who he knows are key, but also by Mitsubishi. Interesting interview that starts about half way through.(I haven't re listened to it in a long time that is where it was before.)


this is good stuff here...

http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-291-from-kennebunkport-to-pearl-harbor-bush-moon-and-the-rising-sun/

Moon makes money many ways but one is swindling widows. The claims for these cons has topped 1 billion dollars US and the lawyers group says that figure represents less than one tenth of the real damages to the non litigious citizens of Japan.

Today's entry...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D99DHVT80&show_article=1

Also, the report about the Japan Supreme Court ruling against the UC, noted that church teachings "exceeded any acceptable social standards."

The district court decided the Unification Church's canvassing tactics for offerings were illegal, saying that even though the tactics were based on the teachings of the church, they far exceeded any acceptable social standards. After the Fukuoka High Court upheld the lower court decision in February 1996, the Unification Church appealed to the Supreme Court. (Japan Times - Sept. 18, 1997 - http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn19970918a4.html )


More on the current goings on...

He reportedly said in a message to employees, "Shinsei is a model company in Japan. It must be No. 1 in terms of both religion and business performance."

Moreover, Shinsei's internal documents confiscated by prosecutors read, "The president is the chief preacher," "Wealthy people are good people," and "There is no point in offering a helping hand to those who have no assets." http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20090620p2a00m0na002000c.html


That's the money that propped up and molded today's conservative movement. And people still ask where and why our nation took a turn for the worse 25 years ago. :7

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 06:40 PM
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45. Thanks, that's really interesting stuff...
From the first link:


The patriotic societies were also very close to the zaibatsu (the giant family trusts). Mitsubishi was one of the zaibatsu. (For more about the zaibatsu, see also: Miscellaneous Archive Show M-26 and FTR-290.) Junas discusses the Japanese economic imperial organization called the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. In discussing the support by Sasakawa, Kodama, the Moon organization and WACL for the Vietnam War, Junas underscores the importance of that war for the Japanese economy. The capital inflow Japan experienced during that conflict had much to do with the rise of the Japanese economic juggernaut. As discussed in FTR-290, the foundation of the post-war Japanese economy was the Kido flight capital program. The close relationship between the Republican Party and the Bush family with such an organization should give genuinely patriotic Americans pause to consider.


What we have seen in the last decade is the downfall of the kereitsu-based companies like Mitsubishi.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:04 AM
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2. GHWBush "pal-ed around" with the Moonies




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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:21 AM
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3. I wonder if Papa Bush joined with Rev. Moon to hush this up.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:34 AM
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4. and they are neighbors with side by side compounds in Paraguay (over the continent's
largest aquifer of course & control of the narcotics trade)

Bush in Paraguay (Update) - Escape + Water, Drugs, Oil, etc.


Wednesday, October 18, 2006
Bush in Paraguay (Update)

Wonkette, of all sites, has a superb rundown of a story
:
http://www.wonkette.com/politics/george-w.-bush/we-hate-to-bring-up-the-nazis-but-they-fled-to-south-america-too-208549.php

we first told a few days ago: Bush the elder has purchased nearly a hundred thousand acres in northern Paraguay, apparently adjacent to, or carved from, the 1,482,600 acres (!!!) owned by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, the Bush family's most notorious friend. Regarding the latter spread, this story (brought to my attention by a reader) is a must-read:

Nevertheless, national Senator Domingo Laino sees a different pattern in Moon's acquisitions. "There are two principal branches to Moon's interest in Paraguay," he said, "control of the largest fresh drinking water source in the world and control of the narcotics business", which is so prevalent in this area.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif240.html


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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:06 PM
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6. No kidding. I mentioned Moon in another thread.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:33 PM
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10. The reaction to Moon here is a bit odd. This subject has been brought up many times
through the years that I've been a member of DU, and often the threads sink like a stone. I think it might be that the younger DUers don't have a clue about Rev. Moon, and the power he wields and so they don't think they have anything to fear.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:08 PM
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7. and how do right wingers defend this one?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:27 PM
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8. They don't even have to try. Out of sight, "out of their minds". What I can't over is C-Street House
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 12:27 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
articles are now popping up all over the Internet. These are full fledged investigative articles. Were these kept in files deliberately stashed away, awaiting for just for the right moment? There is something very fishy about this to me.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:29 PM
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9. I know... I was being hypothetical... you are so right though
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 12:31 PM by fascisthunter
out of sight out of mind=out of their minds=crazy.

You raise a realy good question... I do think it's a bit suspicious too, but then again, after 8 years of Bush, I have become very suspicious about most articles, which is a good thing I suppose. Trust nothing, verify if you can.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:36 PM
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11. I have a head start on the Bush years. I lived through Watergate, The Pentagon Papers,
Iran Contra, etc etc etc. so suspicion has unfortunately become apart of my nature. It isn't a happy thing to live without trust.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:20 PM
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23. When I joined DU in 2003...
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 03:21 PM by AntiFascist
there was a group formed specifically to investigate The Family and the Council for National Policy. A lot of research was done way back then, but much of it was dismissed as being so much "conspiracy theory". At the time, DU was very sensitive to the MSM painting DU as being conspiratorial due to HAARP and 9-11 threads that tended to make us look ridiculous. Wayne Madsen threads only added to all of the controversy. I'm very glad to see a lot of this work finally coming out in the open, stressing the essential truth of what was driving much of the Bush Administration.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:52 PM
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12. Alas, one way they defend this is by pointing out that Democrats took part as well
And sadly, they did. Many, but not all, claimed they were "duped."

Sen. Mark Dayton (D-Minn)
Rep. Danny K. Davis (D-Ill.)
Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.)
Rep. Walter Fauntroy (D-DC)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:20 PM
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14. Davis placed the frigging crown on Moon's head... lol! What the heck did he think he was doing?
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 01:20 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
Playing King And Queen For A Day? And "you Rev. & Mrs. Moon win a new washer and dryer!"

It seems Dayton is playing footsies with "The Family" and Moon....boy, is he fickle.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:10 PM
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18. Danny Davis is my rep
I just think he's not the brightest bulb on the tree. I wish someone would run against him. (I'd say "someone better," but frankly, I'd be satisfied with just "someone").
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 04:16 PM
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24. I'm curious, with his being your Rep, did this news about Davis come out in your district?
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:35 PM
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26. I don't know: it happened before I moved here
But I certainly had heard about it all the way back in Boston and knew. He ran unopposed two years later, so there really wasn't a choice. My own personal decision was to chalk it up to dumbness and keep my eye on him.

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:54 PM
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40. The hell of it is, he's a huge advocate for people with disabilities
original sponsor of the Community Choice Act (H.R. 1670), for one.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 01:47 AM
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28. actually -- Davis did NOT place the crown on Sun Myung Moon's head.
Lots of people say that but it's not exactly true. Davis carried the crown for Mrs. Moon. It was Moon's son, Hyun Jin and his wife who actually placed the crowns on the Moon's heads. The Moon's wouldn't allow some lowlife to do the actual crowning, had to be done by one of his heirs.

A couple things about this while we're on the subject. What is rarely, practically never, mentioned in this is that Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD) carried Mrs. Moon's robe.

Also, to Danny Davis's credit, he has not been involved with Moon since the event. He quit, true it was too late, the damage had been done and whenever the subject comes up it is always Davis the "DEMOCRAT" who is mentioned even though all of Moon's cash and fronts were created to push the hard theocratic right in America. Moon makes it point of smudging both sides of the isle even though he is a staunch right wing theocrat. This helps keep the heat off of him and works wonderfully when people harp about Davis, who was made a fool but at least he woke up till now anyway. The WP actually reported on a memo from Moon operative, Gary Jarmin, in which Jarmin told the Republicans not to worry about attending Moon events because they would be sure to con a couple democrats into coming to shut them up.

Now, I am sure Roscoe Bartlett can still be seen reading his copy of Moon's propaganda rag, the Washington Times.

One more side note, Moon was quoted as saying his enemies the American government and population would bow before him. Many laugh at that, yet that is what happened at the crowning. You have to know how Moon thinks. They claim the event represented America "surrendering" to him. Well, if you were him and it was 2004, the right was under the spell of Moon's beloved theocrats, the president's Father was Moon's biggest shill and supporting Moon's "messianic" mission, Moon's paper was accepted as the print voice of the Republican Party, his movement was key to the rise of and molding of the new right - he had more to do with our political situation than anyone, no one outspent him propping up the right, no one.

Axctually instead of crowning him, O'reilly, Rush, Hannity, Coulter and Savage and all should have been bowing to him on FOX TV. Moon, more than anyone, ANYONE, brought this new off-its-rocker brand of conservtaiosm to power in American at the time.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:41 PM
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39. I didn't know Roscoe was Mrs Moon's handmaiden.
IIRC he claimed he was tricked into attending.

-Hoot
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 05:18 PM
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42. iirc, Bartlett said he was there and damn if a crowning break out and...
He didn't want to be rude and not help out.

Dead links in this post but I still have the audio referred to, they are direct quotes.........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1539928&mesg_id=1540039
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 06:29 PM
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44. Sadly, that's my Rep
Can't seem to get good candidate funding around here. We've had a couple o decent Dem candidates woefully underfunded. This district is nearly ignored by the party.

To give him his props, he does understand energy.

-Hoot
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 01:55 AM
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29. I seem to remember DLC poster boy (and then congressman) Harold Ford being on that list
Lindsey Graham too, but he actually admits to being a Republican.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:18 AM
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32. about your list of dems in attendance
and I must say the best way to talk about Moon to a right wingers is to ignore the crowning altogether. It was a classic Moon smudge job of both sides of the isle operation and serves to shut everyone up. Sadly, it is about all most people know about Moon.

Keep in mind most of the people accused of being "involved" in the crowning of Moon were not there when it happened. Even Curt Weldon, who was certainly a Moon shill - helping and promoting Moon front organizations, he wasn't there when it happened. He spoke, left, and later in the evening they rolled Moon out and crowned him. That is why Weldon's people denied he was there at first. They knew he was at Moon sponsored event but at least his people had no idea he was at any crowing.

Sen. Mark Dayton(D-Minn) - he was the most abused by all this. He was told a constituent was getting an award, he sees this is in the Dirksen Building and figures since a Senator had to sign for the room it must have been OK. He shows up, says hell-o to his constituent who is handed a "peace" award, the Moonies put a couple members on stage with them, snap some photos. Dayton leaves, and again much later Moon is rolled out and crowned, Dayton finds out the next day he is being accused helping to crown Moon the messiah. He had no clue. The Moonies actually put out a statement saying Dayton has no idea what it was all about. He should have looked but he was set up because he was nice guy. His "crime" was answering questions about it honestly. People like Lindsay Graham hid and got no press. The skunk John Warner who was conned into signing for the room, hid like dog until the heat was off before he admitted he rented the room to Moon operative Gary Jarmin.

Rep. Danny K. Davis (D-Ill.) see my post above #28
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6047951#6053845

Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.)is the same as Dayton except he spoke at the event. He was honoring his constituent in his tlak and the widely shown youtube of the event is actually the Moon propaganda video which they edited to make it look Cummings was honoring Moon when he wasn't.

The Moon organization imo is the most deceptive organization in history. I know of no other that expends so much energy not telling people the whole story.

Rep. Walter Fauntroy (D-DC) was the at large congressman from the district and has not served in almost two decades. He is a long time Moon shill.

None of them should have been involved but if you are going tag them please, at least give some perspective.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 05:53 AM
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37. It's like global climate change. Right wingers ignore inconvenient facts.
They don't want to deal with the reality that Moon claims to be the Second Coming of Christ, and is fully in bed with the Republicon Homelanders. So they don't. They just ignore reality.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:54 PM
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13. I still can't believe that happened. Congressional Moonies is right!
lol
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:27 PM
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15. You know how it's been reported that school boards have been infiltrated with fundies? Well I think
that it was/is part of Moon's plan to do that with Congress with his cult followers.

These cultists if not selling flowers on the street or door to door can blend into the working framework of our society. I worked with a Moonie once. We were both receptions at a large law firm in NY. This was when they started to make their presence known here, and she was lovely. You never would have known that she was one. I only knew because we became "friends" and she confided in me about it.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:53 PM
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16. Just more members of 'The Family'. n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:20 PM
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19. Death of Outstanding Congressional Staffer Buried Poppy-Moon Relationship
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:11 PM
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22. Everyone should bookmark this link. You are a treasure Octafish and I love you!
:hi: :hug:

BTW...in the bottom photo - I can make out David Gergen. Do you know who else is there?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:01 AM
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30. I think we need an anniversary gift from you Octafish
Can you re-post this outstanding piece again come the 19th?
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:30 PM
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20. More on Moon's political connections & a recent book 'Bad Moon Rising'
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 02:41 PM by Shallah Kali
google search site:talk2action.org sun myung moon

one example from the above Talk To Action | Neil Bush, the Rev. Moon, Paraguay and the US Department of Education

Bad Moon Rising: How Reverend Moon Created the Washington Times, Seduced the Religious Right, and Built an American Kingdom by John Gorenfeld & Barry W. Lynn - (google books preview)

John Gorenfeld's Bad Moon Rising takes readers into the chilling Washington underworld of the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, whose cult-like Unification Church calls him the True Father. Whether claiming endorsements from George Washington, pronouncing Jesus obsolete or dictating sex positions to his followers, Moon has pursued loopy schemes for decades. For the first time, Bad Moon Rising tells the full story of the reverend's coronation in U.S. Senate offices in 2004; his quest to become world leader; his founding of a media empire with the creation of The Washington Times and purchase of United Press International; and his unlikely influence on the GOP propaganda machine, financing the stories that make Fox News Channel. Although Beltway conservatives rarely acknowledge their embarrassing patron, Gorenfeld is not afraid to follow the money to famous names and shameful secrets, revealing a hidden saga of political corruption, lost souls, and megalomania.


Gorenfeld's site: http://www.gorenfeld.net/book/

Video from site: The King of America (A short film by John Gorenfeld)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 04:54 PM
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25. Thanks for this! I have bookmarked this for later!
:hi:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:03 AM
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31. This whole thread is a goldmine of information.
Thanks to all of the contributors.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:32 AM
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33. I must say the WP's report,
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:37 AM by Cell Whitman
which they waited over three months before they reported this - was very shoddy work. Most reports of the event except Gorenfeld's were frankly. No real information on who Moon was, what he was doing and how he had been the number one financier of the right in America, or that the Bush family has supported his "mission" for years.

Like the Cummings quote in the WP report where he said he didn't remember honoring Moon.

BECAUSE HE DIDN'T!

see this about it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6047951#6053918

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:54 AM
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36. This is an interesting connection...
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14395

Lieutenant General Daniel O. Graham, former director of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, is on the board of USCWF. Graham is the head of High Frontiers, an organization promoting the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI). He is also on the board of the Council for National Policy and has been an important figure in CAUSA, the major political arm of the Unification Church. (11,39,43) Graham, Singlaub, Walter Judd, and John LeBoutillier are members of the American Freedom Coalition, an organization which is the result of a merger of a rightwing Christian lobby organization and an offshoot of the Unification Church. (13,14)
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