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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 05:41 PM Original message |
I cried at the banks of the Lehigh River Sunday |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Recommended. I hail from a old manufacturing town in upstate NY... |
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msedano (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Fontana CA, Kaiser |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. We could resurrect industry and manufacturing in the U.S. with a Works Green Administration |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Unfortunately Dennis was never really running |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. What I don't understand is why those manufacturing jobs won't end up in China |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. A good question. Thanks for asking. The short answer is: carrots and sticks |
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DarthDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. Rec'd. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. Heh. I'll always remember my days in da burgh. Go yinzers. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Bethlehem |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
57. Yep... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. k/r. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. Your Reagan Tax Cuts at Work. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. MBAs |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 05:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
50. That's |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. The US produces about the same amount of steel it ever did - just with a workforce reduced by ~90%. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 07:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
54. I wasn't just talking about the steel industry |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. I used to work for one n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. This is what this song was about....just as an FYI old Billy Joel |
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TuxedoKat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I never saw that music video |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Your welcome |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. That's "free trade" at work. nt |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
15. When this nation finds itself in another world war, there will be no manufacturing to save it. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
16. Let oil hit $200/barrel. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Don't worry, I'm sure Goldman Sachs is working on that as we speak |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 06:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Oil could be $1000 a barrel, it wouldn't matter. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Really? I assumed shipping was quite expensive. Hmm ... n/t |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Cargo ships run on Bunker C fuel. It's the cheapest crap left over |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. Here in Cleveland we have a Wal-Mart where a steel mill stood. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I remember a Kurt Vonnegut quote in times like this |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Pitchforks are much more satisfying. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
22. Look at these links |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. kick #17 nt |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
24. It's been replaced by |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Not really the point |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I understand |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. There is a mixture of management and union blame to go there |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Yes but it |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Labor existed in those mills |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I went to college |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I went to school for two years at App State |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Yes they are. n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I also would love to remind you of your formerly great Textile Mills |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Non-union, too. n/t |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
31. "I cry for the loss of manufacturing in this country and gambling taking its place as an employer." |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I have a thread you might like on Goldman |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Thank you! |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
38. How do we revive the manufacturing industry? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Two very easy things to do but difficult things to get changed in our current Congress |
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zagging (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
41. Were ya drinkin beer? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. First person who got my reference |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
43. Thanks for the post...many of us here know exactly what you mean about "Our Home Towns" |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
44. Casino? blech. I could never get comfortable gambling for fun. Nervewracking. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. It's "Reality Tee Vee to Quell the Masses. Let 'em Gamble..and feel like they made Millions on Wall |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
45. You just described Pittsburgh 30 years ago... but we rebuilt ourselves into a different type of city |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 05:54 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. yes, we'll all give each other heart transplants. or sell antiques to each other. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Happened to Allentown 30 years ago |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
47. Pittsburgh got lots of money to do that...plus Mellon-Scaife Millions...n/t |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-13-09 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
48. Mr. Potter was an amateur |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Sad, but true. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-14-09 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
52. AJ: I once worked in one of those steel mills, a fabrication shop |
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