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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:06 AM
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Bush Approval Ratings Running the Lowest Ever
Edited on Mon Apr-09-07 09:08 AM by Lasher
Of the many polls conducted this year only one, a January 11 George Washington University Battleground Poll, put President Bush's approval rating in the forties, at 42%. On the low side CBS News/NY Times gave him 28% and 29% on January 21 and February 27, respectively.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/archive/?poll_id=19#data

This sustained banishment to the domain of sea mammal feces rivals the 25% approval of Richard Nixon just before he resigned the Presidency. For further comparison, at the same point in his presidency Reagan had dropped just below 50% due to revelation of the Iran/Contra conspiracy. Clinton was running around 70%.


http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/

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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:11 AM
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1. This is what scares the Repubs....
When Clinton was impeached, his numbers stayed in the 60-65% approval range. That is probably what saved him.

Shrub's numbers say that if he ever gets close to being impeached, he might be removed.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:18 AM
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2. The Republicans themselves should move on impeachment.
Haven't they heard the phrase "cut your losses"? The Republican party is doomed to permanent minority status if they don't distance themselves BIG TIME from this criminal rogue regime.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:44 AM
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3. On an individual basis many have become closet Republicans
One guy I have email battles with says he's a 'fiscal libertarian and a social conservative'. That sounds exactly like a Reagan Republican to me. He says the Democratic and Republican parties are both bad. But he's got lots of criticism for Democrats and none whatsoever for Republicans. Funny how so many of these people are calling themselves something else now but they keep singing the praises of exactly the same failed policies that the Bush administration has promoted for 6 years.

On a party basis, you would think Republicans would be absolute toast. But I'm a little troubled about what I see in the polls with matchups between possible presidential candidates. I think the Republicans' best hope is to play it like Junior and Lord Vader were not real Republicans. There's no way they can defend their results, so they'll 'cut and run' from them.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:59 AM
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5. I wouldn't put too much into these incredibly early polls on
presidential candidates.

At this point, no one has any idea what is going to happen. Someone could be sriously ill by them, or perhaps dead, (some of these people aren't spring-chickens).

This is all about cash at this point, and even if I have the $, I wouldn't give anyone a dime at this point in the cycle...:)
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:11 AM
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7. You know what, I agree with you.
It's way too early for me to be thinking much about the 2008 presidential polls. But with all the hype they're about as hard to ignore as Anna Nicole.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 01:01 PM
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30. Republicans don't "Cut their losses" they "lie and/or hide their losses"
Think Enron, although it's universal across the board. Political, financial and combat losses are always hidden behind smoke and mirrors with these Repukes.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:15 AM
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46. That's what I've thought for a LONG time now...
Any 'good' or 'decent' Republicans should be screaming and ejecting this guy (& veep) from office. They have ruined the party. Long term damage, too.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:49 AM
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4. Bush ratings are meaningless, as long as Iraq war continues and gas prices increase...
it's all about the money...
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:23 AM
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12. Maybe you're right but they make a real purty graphic don't they? (EOM)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:10 AM
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6. He still polls higher than Nixon?
:rofl: Man, are his supporters ignorant!:rofl:

LOOK at Clinton's poll rating!:rofl: It's higher than any of them.:rofl:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:14 AM
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9. I'm rooting for Junior. I think he'll break Nixon's record before it's over.
Read my sig line below.

And notice that Saint Gipper, who singlehandedly won the cold war and taught pigs to fly, was not as popular as Clinton at the end of their presidencies.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:47 PM
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27. Combine that with the extreme unlikelihood that Bush would ever resign
and the unlikelihood that a dozen-plus Republican Senators would ever vote to convict his guilty ass, and you realize that we're stuck with him until Jan. 2009.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:13 AM
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8. Watch the News....you would NEVER know that the polls are this low.
It's 'Congress 'against' bush*'
'Congress defies the president'
It never says 'Congress defends the peoples' choice'.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:18 AM
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11. You would think he would be more popular with all this propaganda of the past 6 years
Junior is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. And people in general are not as stupid as he thinks they are. This is not the first time I've seen this reality bubble to the surface.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 01:26 PM
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36. That is hopeful, isn't it? People just aren't buying what they're selling.
At this point you'd think the ones propping him up would realize their own exposure and start protecting themselves.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:14 AM
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10. Right now it's come down to a battle between Bush/media vs. American people/world
I hope the good guys win! :D
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:25 AM
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15. If we win enought Congressional seats and the Presidency in 2008...
we need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine and force divestiture of all the news outlets. That way rich people might no longer have a relative monopoly on the news.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:23 AM
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13. New USA Today-Gallup has Chimp at 38% approval!
Edited on Mon Apr-09-07 10:23 AM by npincus
Who the f*ck are they polling?
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:28 AM
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17. Barney and Laura
given that, 38% still looks pretty bad.

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:24 AM
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14. USA Today has him at 38% today.
According to MSNBC. How is this possible? I can't believe that 38% of the people look at this disastrous failure and say "Yes - that's what I want."
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:27 AM
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16. Because of what you see in this thread - everyone quoting the poll-of-the-day...
... I much prefer this one:

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 11:43 AM
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18. Hard to spin that one, huh Bloo?
But I know the Bush apologists are trying real hard to turn night into day for us.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 11:50 AM
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19. For whatever the hangers on use as a reason for "supporting" this
buffoon...All I can say is that, if ignorance is bliss; these are some ecstatic fools...:D
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:20 PM
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21. Oh, we're going to see an endless string of lies telling us how wonderful Junior is
That is guranteed by the stink tanks and foundations that are funded by the richest 1% who love those tax cuts. Already Junior has a post-presidency foundation with a half billion dollars in it (provided by donors who all prefer to remain anonymous, thank you very much) that is set up to spew out pro-Junior propaganda until the end of time. This is the reason there are so many fools who believe the many myths about how wonderful Saint Gipper was, despite the facts that show he was nothing but an idiot.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:45 PM
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26. Reagan was one worthless piece of crap...
He read whatever script he was given.

Forget the fact that the "Party of Family Values" conveniently forgot that he was divorced, committed adultery, left his previous family in some pretty dire straits, lied his ass off, and started the country on the great slide into financial oblivion.

BUT...He singlehandedly brought down the USSR; except that the groundwork for that was the Marshall Plan under Truman; and superseded by Eisenhower's policies; moved forward by the boldness of Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis; Johnson not taking any crap from the USSR; Nixon's China push which further moved the USSR into a corner; Ford, who continued the policies; Carter, who never broke on the cessation of Communism...Yeah...Reagan did it all w/his "Take down this wall" rhetoric. Mickey mouse could have had the watch, and the USSR would have fallen, all it was going to take was time.

Since Reagan, the Treasury has been under constant assault from those that have so much money, it disgusts me to even think about what they spend it on, while children go to bed hungry at night, and wind up w/diseases that are easily preventable today.

:grr:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:09 AM
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40. And to illustrate the results of Reaganomics:


http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

Results of the trickle down theory employed by Saint Ronnie of Reagan and his two disciples are plain to see.

The Ronald Reagan Years - The Real Reagan Legend
Ronald Reagan - The Bonzo Years
The Real Reagan Legacy - Debunking Myths About Reagan
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:16 PM
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20. K & R
The media has been extremely quiet regarding Bush's poll numbers in recent weeks.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:23 PM
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24. Thanks, lynyard
Need just one more for Sweet Home Greatest Page.

Lasher
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:23 PM
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22. Look how the neocons have corrupted every aspect from elections, to judiciary,
to media. Do you really think they wouldn't attempt to corrupt the polling? I don't trust the polls.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:23 PM
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23. Guess he used up all that "political capital" he got from the 2004 "election".
:rofl: Now what's he gonna do? :dilemma:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 03:37 PM
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39. If his budgets are any indication, borrow n/t
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:42 AM
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42. I have always thought his references to "political capital" are quite sinister
Think about it: Something happens whereby you gain popularity - say, being asleep at the wheel despite clear warnings that the biggest terrorist attack in history was about to occur on your watch. That puts you in a good position to get by with doing a lot of things most people don't want you to do, such as giving enormous tax breaks to the richest 1% and lying the nation into an unprovoked and unnecessary war.

The more of these things you do, the less popular you become. This process is what Junior refers to as spending his "political capital". He was critical of his father for not doing this, and said from the very start that he was going to spend his "political capital". That is to say, he was going to do what he wanted as long as he could get away with it, despite clear sentiments to the contrary held by a majority of Americans.

That's just pure evil. And now with his never-earned popularity and credibility in the dumpster, he'll find it difficult to foist the rest of his extremist legislative wish list on us. But rest assured, this bonehead won't stop trying.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:43 PM
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25. One thought when looking at that chart
I honestly hope I never live to see another day when any President has a 90 percent approval rating.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:50 PM
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28. And I'm proud to say I was in the 10% minority at that time.
Always loathed the piece of crap, always will.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 01:02 PM
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31. Me too.
Junior was destined to be a mediocre one term president until he got his 'another Pearl Harbour'.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:51 AM
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44. Me three. I'm a proud 10%er. (nt)
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 01:07 PM
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32. I try to be charitable. Had some pollster had asked me on 9/13/01 about Bush
I might've given a weak "approve," just because I (like most everyone else) was in such a state of shock.

To be honest I wasn't really thinking about the Administration just after the attack, although I couldn't understand, for the life of me, why Bush's "bullhorn speech" at the WTC got such favorable coverage at the time. I soon came to loathe the grandstanding, and it seemed painfully apparent that this was being exploited for political gain.

Discussions like this often come down to questioning whether Bush is staggeringly incompetent or just plain evil; I have come to realize that the two are not mutually exclusive.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 01:10 PM
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33. if you only knew then what you know now and what you are about to know
I did NOT approve of Bush and never will.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 01:17 PM
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34. Oh, I didn't approve of Bush on 9/11 or 9/12 or whatever...
Had I a chance to think about how pissed off I still was over the Florida 2000 debacle, and how the Supreme Court handed the keys to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to that thug despite the clear-cut will of the people, I know I'd never give any pollster the satisfaction of a favorable rating.

I'm just saying, there ought to be some better understanding of that 80-90% approval rating Bush held for a few weeks. I think a lot of Americans felt, quite legitimately, that we'd been attacked by a foreign force and that their love of country and respect for whomever happened to be our Commander in Chief trumped the anger over political nastiness.

I'd like to think that I never approved of Bush (I certainly never will). But I think there were plenty of Americans who, for a few days at least, were willing to put that aside in hopes that the "Commander in Chief" might actually, you know, command?

(if that makes any sense, which it probably doesn't.)
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 01:43 PM
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37. I know what you're saying, I just never bought his bullshit.
Actually, I remember saying to someone, "Oh great, now Bush is going to completely milk this situation to his advantage without actually solving anything." Boy, I couldn't have been any more right.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:51 AM
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43. I respect your honesty
I understand what you're saying. I think from now on I'll exercise some restraint before I crow about having never approved of Junior.

If a poll were conducted today, in which respondents were asked if they ever approved of Junior's job performance at any time while he was president, I'm quite certain a percentage far lower than 85% would say that they had.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:36 AM
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47. Believe you're right about that 85% figure (n/t)
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:54 PM
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29. . . .and yet, they remain in the grips of impeachophobia.
Our so-called leaders are crying out for intervention.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/pat_k/23
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 01:18 PM
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35. Which only proves, the higher they are, the harder the fall.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:11 AM
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41. Ooooo, that's bad!
It's twue, it's twue!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 03:29 PM
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38. K&R
Wimpy Bush is a DUD! * Like his wimpy DAD!
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:04 AM
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45. Had they not orchestrated 9/11, that piece of shit would....
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 03:04 AM by pinniped
have stayed where he started at and went down from there.
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