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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:11 PM
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Is the Gates situation class warfare instead of racism?
Upper class college professor, personal friend of the President of the United States, versus blue-collar middle class guy? Was the cop acting out his disgruntlement over his status versus Professor Gates' esteemed status?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:13 PM
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1. No
1) the cop didn't know who he was. All he had to go on was on sight.
2) can't think of a single incident where this has happened in a similar neighborhood - but with a white homeowner.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:13 PM
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2. could very well be that
race and class played a role in the incident.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:15 PM
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3. But... but... Supposedly the cop had no idea who Gates was.
:rofl:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:17 PM
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5. Bloo, did you see anywhere that he admitted recognizing Skip's face?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:20 PM
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7. Nah. Did you see that somewhere?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 02:18 PM
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12. I could have misread.
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 02:23 PM by Karenina
:crazy: Check your PM for a real zinger on the class/race divide! :crazy:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:16 PM
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4. Could be a factor.
Doesn't mean race wasn't also a factor.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:18 PM
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6. A little of both
I'm sure the cop resented the fact that a black guy COULD achieve this status while he was stuck in his crappy job (which incidentally probably is not so crummy - he probably makes $100k per year or so). Well, it couldn't be that the black guy was smarter or more qualified, it had to be because of government sponsored affirmative action or some other policy which was dreamed up just to fuck over white people.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:21 PM
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8. no. the cops bullying and intimidation is no longer about race, class or anything else
it is their right and part of their job description. it is a them against us
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:22 PM
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9. Very doubtful
The issues of racism and classicism are often inextricably intertwined, but from what I know (and admittedly having not been there, is not that much)this event was likely the result of racist bias .... not necessarily even conscious.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:52 PM
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10. Class was involved only insofar as Gates was unused to being treated as others routinely are.
And the case gained national prominence only because Gates is an elite.

But the other side is that this can happen EVEN to an elite, upperclass, respected academician.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 12:54 PM
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11. You think this is the first time Gates has been on the receiving end of racism?
He's 58 years old.
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Dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 02:29 PM
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13. Whilst I doubt class formed part of the officer's motives
I do find it amusing how many people around here seem staggered that anyone might not recognise somebody who combined those two ultimate celebrity positions: Harvard professor and PBS presenter.

I mean, I hate to break it to some of you guys, but there are even some folks out there who don't frequent the opera, or even the ballet, if you can believe that...
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