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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:22 PM Original message |
Has the Democratic Party been co-opted? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Really |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No, just coming out of the closet. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Just the fact that any upcoming health legislation will be less than a Single Payer system |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Yes. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. Don't avoid the question |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Well, according to Congress members, both in the House and Senate, |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. yea dude everything is perfect and the dems stand for the people, i could provide an example of this |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. the upcoming health care legislation? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. They agree to similar framing so they can appear to vote differently. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's so sad. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I still think the only way to get "real" health care reform |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
43. How about all of us going on strike? |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Bingo! |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
74. Bingo, the Lobbyist for the Corporation who controls your politician decides which way he/she votes |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. sorry to say, but it seems the republicans and the dems aren't much different. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yes. |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'm not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. For the most part, yes. nt |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
11. (fun) Tinfoil hat time |
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jannyk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I've been thinking the same thoughts for a few weeks now... |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I think they ARE republicans. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. I don't think it's far-fetched at all. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. Our alternative was to vote for Barack Obama, knowing he was largely status quo with potential |
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jannyk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Yes, we knew he was 'status quo' but millions bought the platform of 'Change' |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. and now we gotta be the change |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I've already read and recommend those threads. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. There's an update in GD: P. They're back at work in the committee after a blowout. |
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marybourg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. We do what progressives have always done: |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. That wouldn't be so bad if we were facing outward. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
22. Thanks for all your replies. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
24. No, I don't think it has |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Good points. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I don't think that is feasable |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. "Calling For" and actually "Doing" are two very different things. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Bingo! n/t |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. Only since about 1968. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
27. no, I think it's moving to the left |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I sure do hope you're right. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Curious. How old are you? |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. 63 |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
34. No, the Naderite wing has just always had an inflated sense of their own power. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Actually I look back to 64-68.. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Vietnam was exactly the kind of point I was making. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. No you were pretending that there was no progressive era. |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Interesting that the time to which you refer coincides w/ the Fairness Doctrine |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Well, to start with, |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. We can't... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. We cannot get that coalition back |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. That was an interesting time, wasn't it? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
35. Does the pope shit in the woods? |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Not sure, since I'm not the religious type! |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
38. If You're Talking To Me... I Just Don't Have A Real Answer! One Thing I Will |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. I hear you. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
40. recent research shows the opposite |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. Most Americans favor universal health care, too, |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. if by universal you mean single payer, than you are wrong |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
41. It would be interesting to see how a party based on the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. Well, I definitely think we'd do as well, if not better. |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. These people aren't Dems, they're properly called liberal Republicans. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. True. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
51. Yes |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It would certainly appear so, at least to me. n/t |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Its what they do |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Sad, isn't it? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
54. There are a lot of good people left in the Party... |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. That's why we need campaign finance reform. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. That would be an excellent start. |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
66. 1999 called and it wants its post back. Repeal of |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
67. Maybe the Dems. should begin expelling all the DLCs, DINOs |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
68. Yes. The rich libs (more commonly referred to as the "limousine liberals") ruined everything after |
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Kid Dynamite (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
69. Are you sure its only the Dems |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
70. there's (for all practical purposes) only one party in this country |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
72. Repubs being pulled right by extremists, Dems being pulled right by Repub defectors |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
73. Remember the DLC?? The answer is a big YES. |
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