johnaries
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Sat Jul-25-09 12:56 AM
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Poll question: Do you support single payer only, or do you think a public option |
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is acceptable if single payer won't pass?
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leftstreet
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Sat Jul-25-09 12:58 AM
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1. How can single payer 'pass' when it was never an option? |
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:shrug:
You make it sound as though it was considered and then discarded.
Your poll suckz.
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johnaries
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:08 AM
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5. It is my understanding that it has been considered. Conyers |
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Edited on Sat Jul-25-09 01:09 AM by johnaries
supports it, for one. See HR 676.
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leftstreet
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:11 AM
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7. It's been 'considered' since Truman. It's never an option at the table |
johnaries
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:21 AM
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9. What about HR 676? With 93 co-sponsors? |
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Looks like it's dying in committee, but it's an actual resolution.
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:00 AM
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2. But I still think we should march on DC |
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demanding single payer.
Mid to late August, we hold rallies, with lit torches, at everyone's district office. Labor Day weekend we start massing in DC. Set up a free clinic on the Capitol mall. Labor Day we have a huge free concert, and get Dennis, Howard and Rep Weiner to address the massive crowd. S Tuesday September 8 we pass out torches and light them and start shouting our demand for single payer, medicare for all or whatever the hell you think the best brand name is.
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Sat Jul-25-09 02:19 AM
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10. I like what I hear... |
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Some of us here have been thinking about organizing stuff like this... you in?
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abumbyanyothername
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Sat Jul-25-09 02:24 AM
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11. Well when we get it together Stu |
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I am in. As I told you in our pm conversation.
I wish that Howard Dean and DFA would get behind this idea.
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Sat Jul-25-09 03:42 AM
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Edited on Sat Jul-25-09 03:44 AM by stuball111
I get confused with people's names here, and although I contributed, I haven't got my star yet, so I can't ad buddies.. I have been talking with another fellow in pm about it, so there you go! Now we are three!
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Sebastian Doyle
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:01 AM
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3. Problem is the DLC types are abusing the words "public option" |
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like the Bush Crime Family abused the words "freedom" and "democracy".
What Chuck Schumer and Chris Dodd (whose wife is on the board of an insurance company) mean by "public option" is NOT the same as how it was defined by Dr. Howard Dean.
I would prefer Single Payer. I can live with Dr. Dean's public option. Anything less than that is Not. Fucking. Acceptable.
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:15 AM
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8. Public Option should be an option |
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You should be able to opt in to it without restriction.
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:06 AM
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4. I'll support a public option IF it fully subsidizes the poor. |
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I've seen conflicting data about whether it will.
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Cresent City Kid
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Sat Jul-25-09 01:09 AM
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6. Single payer was stillborn |
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I agree with the first response that it was never an option, (I disagree that your poll sucks). I'm going to try to make the most of whatever public option passes. I have to insure my family, my feelings of disapointment over single payer are irrelevent.
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Sat Jul-25-09 03:08 AM
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12. Public option is the hole in the dike. More leaks to come, until . . . |
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the whole corrupt mess is swept away.
Obama is a careful Chicago pol, not a thug Chicago pol. He's never thought (IMO) that single-payer could make it through the minefield of insurance company money, 'lican grandstanding, and Blue Dog treason. So he's going for the doable rather than the best (but unobtainable) solution.
At least I hope so.
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Sun Jul-26-09 02:40 AM
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15. That's pretty much the way I see it, too. nt |
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Sat Jul-25-09 08:50 AM
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14. Single payer would NOT PASS; but that won't stop some here from crying about it daily. |
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Sun Jul-26-09 02:37 PM
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16. I'm afraid you're right. HR 676 seems to be dying in committee. |
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As a matter of fact, it seems a lot of "single-payer only" advocates don't even know about it.
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Sun Jul-26-09 03:00 PM
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17. Single payer -also make doctors and hospitals bid for work |
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That is the way the state and federal get roads built.Constrction companies bid for jobs and the lowest and best bidder gets the job has worked for years.
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Sun Jul-26-09 03:08 PM
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