Hey, Photoshop experts... please look at the fake Kenyan BC

[LuckyTheDog]

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/obama-certified-copy-of-registration-of-birth-in-kenya.htm

Look close at the stamped seal in this photo. It looks to me like there has been some Photoshop work done on that part of the "document." When I blow it up, it looks goofy. It looks to me like the seal was intentionally obscured.

However, I am no expert. Could someone else look?

[mikelgb]

1. no, I will not help you beat a dead horse

[MADem]

2. The mystery has been solved. It's THIS certificate, doctored.

[LuckyTheDog]

3. That makes sense (nt)

[Drunken Irishman]

11. You're so full of it!

Don't you get it? Obama, back in 2006, set up a genealogy site on the Bomford family and put this FAKE BC on it knowing full well three years later, after he was elected president, his real BC would be found. So he can use this one to disprove that one.

Don't you get it?!?

[MADem]

14. Ok, ok, ya got me....here's the real certificate!!!

[igotsix]

17. The AUSTRALIAN document is doctored.

It's the AUSTRALIAN document that's been doctored. Look at the DOB. It says "10th April". The number 1 there is a real number 1. The rest of the document uses the lower case L.

Typewriters at the time didn't have a 1 key. The practice was to use the lower case L for a 1. Many typewriters didn't have a zero either. The practice was to use the upper case letter o. This would explain the 47,O44 nonsense. The 'O' there really is the letter o. That was the only way to type a zero.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Typewriting


Because the AUSTRALIAN document is doctored, it is not suitable for this discussion. You can't use one phony document to try to discredit another document. All information on this document is questionable. ( The 5733 in the upper right looks way to neat. G.F. Lavender isn't left aligned with the rest of the document. There is an entire section here that isn't on the Kenyan version. )

You can claim that birthers are fools for falling for a forged document. You obviously have experience in that area.

[MADem]

18. Jesus--you're not even SUBTLE!! Desperate times are calling for Desperate Birther Measures!

So, what are you saying--the guy who gave the interview, who said it was HIS birth certificate....he's...what? An actor, hired by Team Obama?

And amazing that they went all the way to AUSTRALIA!! Why couldn't they have chosen another crown colony, eh?

:rofl:

You're funny....but not in an amusing way. Go tell your buddies it didn't work. No one's buying the EWWW FAKE theme!

[Jazzgirl]

22. No shit!

I wonder....have you ordered dinner yet??

[MADem]

25. How about mushroom and garlic? nt

[Fuzz]

23. Heh

[Canuckistanian]

26. Yes, it's a little known fact that typewriters didn't have a "1" key

They also didn't have "5", "9" or the letters "B", "y" and the "%" symbol.

Nobody knows why - some think it goes back to WWI, because the government needed the extra metal for the war effort.

[ingac70]

4. The seal looks intentionally obscured because....

It originally said "South Australia"



http://washingtonindependent.com/53658/is-this-the-source-of-the-forged-kenyan-birth-certificate

[hlthe2b]

5. Tons of threads the past two days doing all the detective work

If you do a few searchs and read the threads, the photoshop aspectshave been discussed in detail.

[LuckyTheDog]

6. Sorry if I am behind the curve....

... It's just that the scan seemed fake, even to an amateur like me.

[hlthe2b]

7. Late or not, some of the discussions will undoubtedly

be fascinating to you. And, yes, it is incredibly amateur, even to me, who has done little with photoshop.

[patrice]

8. I don't have Photoshop, but it seems that the overall somewhat subtlely mottled

look of the paper does not appear to change where the paper is crimped by the imprint of the seal.

[csziggy]

9. It is not the same seal as the one on the Bromford BC

It is smaller in relation to the area it is in. Either the image of a seal was blurred or some other seal was used and not impressed very hard. I'd suspect it was blurred with PhotoShop. I tried using an Unsharpening filter but could not get enough detail to make out any lettering, just that it does not match the original seal as I said above.

[peacetalksforall]

10. It looks like the impression of a silver dollar - rubbed around the edges.

[csziggy]

15. It actually looks correct for one of those embossing stamps

My Dad used to have one as an engineer and we'd play with it. I don't think you could get the same kind of embossed images from just trying to rub onto a coin.

But lots of people have had them - notaries, and other offices. And some states, like Florida, no longer use them since they do not scan well for creating electronic images. So a lot of them have been discarded, and are probably showing up at flea markets and such.

Heck, I should snag Dad's the next time I'm home! It could come in useful for forging bogus birth certificates, LOL.

[MADem]

27. Izza ten cent, I tink!

[MADem]

19. It's a Kenyan COIN. They say Republic of Kenya on them. NT

[liberalmuse]

12. I'm not even close to being an expert, but...

you can see the obvious pixelation where they changed the info. This is a real shoddy piece of work. It's insultingly pathetic.

[tabatha]

13. And, what is interesting, is that even though it is a jpg

there is no pixelation cloud around the letters like the scribd copy.

[mwooldri]

16. Fake fake fake.

Even sod the seal - even I know that text around jpegs don't form neat rectangles.

There's so many inconsistencies with this birth certificate it's laughable.

Yep, the seal is amongst them. My question is - would there have even been a seal? I don't recall a seal on my certified copy British certificate.

Top left: currency is wrong... dead wrong... never used LSD in Kenya as the local currency, would have been East African Shillings, divided into 100 cents. d in LSD stands for pence... so nope, the price of the certificate is definitely wrong because it's so odd a number.

Text: It's a jpeg - and yes there'd be loss around certain key areas - jpeg is a lossless format, but you'd expect a genuine jpeg distortion to actually follow AROUND the text. The text is in straight blocks... I've seen bad jpeg compression and if it were truly bad jpeg compression then I'd expect other distortions but... the background is not distorted - plus the filesize makes no sense: 404k for a 1200 x 1068 pixel picture? Here's another birth certificate - a 1024x768 one - a screen shot, also a jpeg, - and what do you see? Absence of bad pixellation around the words plus 1/4 of the file size for an image 61% of the size, so would expect about 250-300k picture size, but nope, 404k - with awfully bad compressed text. That badly a compressed picture would be more like 200k at that size, so again, I'm not convinced based on these technicalities.

Also are registry offices open on Saturdays? Yes, but only by appointment for marriages. The birth registration would have to wait.

Also Kenya was not a Republic until December of 1964, so Feb 1964 is wrong.

Coast General Hospital? How about Coast Provincial General Hospital? Plus they can't find any records - now Kenya has a corruption issue so whether that's true I can't say 100% but if Obama was indeed born in Kenya, there'd be news about it way before he wanted to go for President - like him getting the Senate job for starters.

Then there's that seal. The jpeg is supposed to be that bad but you can usually make something out - perhaps like this one?

(yes I'm linking to that site but only the image)

Sorry the purported Obama Kenyan birth certificate is a certifiable FAKE.

[ColbertWatcher]

20. That site you linked to contains malware! n/t

[WeDidIt]

21. DUDE! You are linking to a KNOWN Malware Attack Site!!!

Take that fucking link down, then go run every anti-virus checker you can find!

[HughMoran]

24. I thought her site attacked any machine that clicked in

?