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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:40 PM
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Looks like right wing will target Jim Moran's town hall with Howard Dean on August 25
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 01:43 PM by madfloridian
Here's a blog I found that is linked to conservative groups...the groups that are getting people to harass Democrats at town halls. They were shown on Rachel Maddow's show last night. It's horrible and shocking to see our country descend into this chaos.

Here's the link:

Rep. Jim Moran to be joined by Howard Dean for health care reform townhall

Subject line sounds innocent enough, but wait until you start reading.

The blogger's profile:


SWAC Girl

S.W.A.C. - Staunton, Waynesboro, and Augusta County Republicans working to elect conservative, principled public officials in the Shenandoah Valley ... with occasional musings about life happenings.


And the words "socialized health care bill" are used.

District 8 - Rep. Jim Moran (D)

This will be a night to remember in the 8th Congressional District. Howard Dean will join Rep. Moran for a townhall meeting on health care reform efforts so put it on your calendar as an opportunity to ask questions about the socialized health care bill. Be sure to let others know.


Notice the blogger avoids saying too much. But notice the schedules of other town halls:

# Rep. Tom Perriello's townhall schedule
# Rep. Robert Scott's schedule
# Rep. Glenn Nye plans no townhall meetings during A...
# Congress needs to post the health bill online NOW
# "Ask the Candidate:" McDonnell joins T-D online vi...
# Did Obama lie about not raising taxes?
# Will Mark Warner have townhall meetings in Valley?...
# Is Jim Webb holding a townhall in the Valley?


And notice the links to Freedom Works, Move America Forward and other conservative action groups.

# FreedomsWatch.org
# Gathering of Eagles
# NY Gathering of Eagles
# Move America Forward
# Vets For Freedom


So perhaps Jim Moran needs to be on guard and make plans because it appears his town hall is going to get visitors.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:00 PM
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1. Apparently Dean was just on NPR and called them brownshirts.
I hate to link to Hot Air, but can't resist this comment.

"Josh Marshall made a Nazi allusion in his “Tea Shirts” headline. Howard Dean, just now on NPR’s Talk of the Nation, skipped the pun and came right out with “brownshirts.”

Classy, classy guy.

Jobius on August 4, 2009 at 2:29 PM"

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/04/obamacare-the-grassroots-are-always-greener/
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 04:48 PM
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19. Brownshirted, tea-bagging birthers! n/t
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:03 PM
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2. attention, Tangerine LaBamba and other Arlington/Alexandria area DUers
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 02:03 PM by Gabi Hayes
make sure you get there with video cameras

I'm alerting my friends there (used to live in Arlington), and I'm sure several of them will go

wish I could....
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:08 PM
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3. I guess there's nothing we can do about it. Cancel the town hall, problem solved.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:11 PM
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4. Please get these counter-tactics to them:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:22 PM
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6. Thanks, some good tactics there.
:hi:
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:47 PM
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13. +1 nt
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:18 PM
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5. Sent this on to the head of the local Democratic Commitee in VA-08. Thanks for posting this!
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 02:18 PM by leveymg
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:28 PM
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7. They are Brown Shirt Thugs
They need to be stopped - they must not be allowed to take away other citizens right to speak freely without harassment or intimidation.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:26 PM
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21. Rachel covered the 2000 protest in Florida
She called it the Brooks Brothers protest, but yes, they are actually brownshirts.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:29 PM
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8. If anybody can call 'em out it will be Dr. Dean.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:33 PM
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9. Simple solutions. Issue tickets at Moran's office. Must live IN the district to get in
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 02:33 PM by SoCalDem
sign in with ID before the meeting.

read memo before anything else and then:

SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-02-09 11:36 AM
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How a smart Representative handles the "memo-people"/disruptors.



Immediately after being introduced, he/she would say:

"Everyone who is on medicare, please stand up". Now sit down. Everyone who is too young to be on medicare, please stand up. Now sit down.

Why did I ask you to do that?

The first group of people who stood up paid into medicare since 1965 (maybe not the correct year) and their payments went to pay for health-care for their parents & grandparents. the second group of people who stood are NOW paying out of their paychecks for the first group's medicare..

Is that socialism? or is it just a generational promise of good citizenship and fair-play?

Let me ask these questions to the 2nd group. Should deductions from your pay stop, so that health-care benefits for the first group could be terminated?

Of course that means that YOU would get nothing in the way of health-care when YOU turn 65 either. How many have a million dollars saved up for health care in their old age?"

"NOW.. for the people who have received the RNC memo, and who are here to disrupt, please step up to the stage.. all together now.. You have 15 minutes to recite your prepared talking points, and then we'll proceed with the town hall meeting."

(assuming that no one steps forward)

Since no one here admits to receiving the disruption orders, or perhaps they were texting or twittering just now, anyone who stands up and shouts anything , will be removed."


then they should start the meeting.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:39 PM
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10. Hey, some good ideas.
:hi:
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:48 PM
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14. That's a very VERY good idea. Hope you sent it to his office too! n/t
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:51 PM
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15. excellent suggestions. Can u send them to Moran's office???
Howard Dean's also.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:39 PM
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11. how ironic
morans targeting Moran :crazy:

:rofl:
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:46 PM
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12. Gathering of Eagles? Move America Forward?
Who chooses the corny names for these groups? Wait a sec, who are these groups?

Gathering of Eagles
Gathering of Eagles (GoE), part of a pro-war lobby, was ostensibly a group set up to protect the Vietnam Veterans Memorial ("The Wall") and other war memorials, and functioned as a counter-protest group during the March 17, 2007, Washington D.C. March on the Pentagon rally against the war in Iraq.

Kristinn Taylor of Free Republic serves as a press contact and spokesperson for both Gathering of Eagles and Move America Forward.

Ah, a member of Free Republic is involved. Why am I not surprised?

Under "History of GOE"

GoE was organized by "brave Vietnam veterans" Col. Harry G. Riley and Capt. Larry Bailey, who "realized that it was time to stop fretting and time to start acting," Move America Forward's Melanie Morgan wrote March 2, 2007. "They've organized an effort to wake up and mobilize pro-troop supporters around the nation," Morgan wrote.

Bailey, a retired U.S. Navy Captain, was president of Vietnam Vets for the Truth, "which attacked 2004 Democratic Presidential candidate Senator John Kerry's military record, on the heels of the more well-known" Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. (4)

Move America Forward
Move America Forward (MAF), part of a pro-war lobby, is headed by California Republican activists, talk show hosts and staff members of the public relations firm Russo Marsh & Rogers, which has strong ties to the Republican Party. PR professional Sal Russo is the chief strategist (1) for MAF. It is a conservative 501c3 not-for-profit organization formed in early 2004 by Howard Kaloogian and "acclaimed radio and television personality" Melanie Morgan (formerly of KSFO 560 AM -- San Francisco). As a non-profit organization it is not required to reveal its funders to the public. (2).

Maybe it's not required, but there must be little breadcrumb trails leading hither and yon. It would be enlightening, I'm sure.

Melanie Morgan is MAF chairman and a columnist for WorldNetDaily, and author of the book America Mourning. She gained national notoriety in the summer of 2006 when she suggested that Bill Keller, an editor of the New York Times, be killed in a "gaschamber" for alleged "treason" after the Times' reporting on US government spying on Americans. (3)

Melanie Morgan has an email address associated with the Russo Marsh & Rogers PR firm: Melanie AT RMRWest.Net.

According to its website, MAF "is a non-partisan, not-for-profit organization committed to supporting America's efforts to defeat terrorism and supporting the brave men and women of our Armed Forces." (4) MAF identifies their domestic opponents as "self-loathing liberal journalists and 'Blame America First' politicians" (June 29, 2005 email, titled "The War at Home - in America"). In September 2007, MAF claimed to have "raised an estimated $2 million," and to have "about 1 million members and financial supporters," according to The Indianapolis Star. (5)

Non-partisan? Seriously? See, I've got a tip about this bridge for sale...

Who Pays the Bills for "MoveAmericaForward.org"
A web site has launched a campaign to deter theater owners from showing Michael Moore's film, "Fahrenheit 9-11". A list of theaters currently committed to showing the film is provided along with exhortations to call and demand that the film be dropped. Some theater owners are reporting receiving death threats.

This web site, "http://moveamericaforward.org", is actually an alias for "http://moveamericaforward.com". A DNS check reveals that "http://moveamericaforward.com" is being run by a Public Relations firm out of San Francisco.

Registrant:
Russo Marsh & Rogers

...Russo Marsh & Rogers is a political public relations firm with strong ties to the GOP. Sal Russo, a principle in Russo Marsh & Rogers, served as advisor for the "Recall Grey Davis" campaign.

Patriots, all. Open minded, thoughtful patriots concerned about what's best for the country. No ulterior motives here. Wow, what a lovely bunch. :eyes:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 02:54 PM
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16. Get some jumpy, healthy young Dems to escort these people out
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 02:55 PM by Doctor_J
in a manner that will keep them from returning. This problem isn't going to go away until we do more than whine about it
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 04:17 PM
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17. These are GOP front groups, not "conservative action groups"
Calling them conservative groups suggests they might actually express legitimate conservative sentiments. They don't. They are totally the creation of GOP operatives and GOP PR firms and have no other function other than to serve as vehicles for Republican propaganda.


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Move_America_Forward

Move America Forward (MAF), part of a pro-war lobby, is headed by California Republican activists, talk show hosts and staff members of the public relations firm Russo Marsh & Rogers, which has strong ties to the Republican Party. . . .

Following U.S. House of Representatives Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's (Democrat from Northern California) calling President Bush an "incompetent leader," because of his handling of the Iraq War, MAF launched its first action. On May 26, 2004, MAF declared Pelosi "one of the worst examples of a 'Domestic Enemy' ... certainly up there with the ranks of Senator Ted Kennedy and America-bashing filmmaker, Michael Moore." . . .

MAF garnered substantial media attention with its campaign to dissuade cinemas from showing Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 (movie 2004). . . . Leading up to the Democratic National Committee's convention in Boston in July 2004, MAF called the event "nothing more than a 'Blame America First' pep rally." . . . On August 16, MAF announced in an email that, the following week, they would be "leading a caravan to Crawford, Texas - to present an alternative voice to that of Cindy Sheehan, who has become the heroine of the 'Blame America First' crowd. ... We cannot allow MoveOn.org, Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan communicate a false sense of weakness to the terrorists overseas" (August 16, 2005 email, titled, "You Don't Speak for Me, Cindy").


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Vets_for_Freedom

"Working behind the scenes through most of the summer" 2007, Freedom's Watch president Bradley A. Blakeman "assembled big-dollar donors and quietly helped pro-war groups ranging from the American Legion to Rolling Thunder make a case for Bush's war strategy. Freedom's Watch also formed partnerships with other groups backing the war, such as Families United, Vets for Freedom and the Veterans of Foreign Wars," Jim Kuhnhenn reported September 28, 2007, for the Associated Press. . . .

VFF co-founder was assisted by former Bush White House spokesman's PR firm in attempt to get dispatches published in mainstream newspapers, got credentials from the Weekly Standard, was assisted by Kristol: In 2006, former White House spokesman Taylor Gross's public relations firm the Herald Group helped VFF co-founder Wade Zirkle and "fellow Iraq veteran David Bellavia approach mainstream newspapers to offer dispatches from the two as war correspondents embedded with the military. The two eventually got press credentials through The Weekly Standard, whose editor, William Kristol, became an informal adviser to the group and helped put it in touch with" Republican strategist Dan Senor, who was "on retainer to help with fundraising." . . .

While urging Congress to pass the defense spending bill before its August recess, Bush "repeated the words said to him" by VFF's Eric Egland—"We live in the world's oldest democracy and have been blessed with the strength to protect our freedoms and to help others who seek the same," Donna Miles reported for the American Forces Press Service. Bush met not only with VFF's Egland, who is also the founder of Troops Need You, but also with members of Families United for Our Troops and Their Mission and Military Families Voice of Victory
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 04:45 PM
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18. Another website with more town halls targeted. Let these Dems know.
http://www.cprights.org/townhalls.php

They are targeting everyone. Huge long list.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:03 PM
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20. Kick for Moran.
.
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