One simple solution to Obama's issues - FIRE RAHM.

[Hawkeye-X]

He's clearly not on our side. We need someone who's like-minded as the rest of the American people, not some DLC stooge who'll manipulate anyone to make a profit.

Nuff said.

Hawkeye-X

[dflprincess]

1. I'm sure Obama knew whose side Rahm is on when he appointed him

very disappointing.

[western mass]

28. Bingo.

Obama has placed corporate/DLC shills in the most powerful positions in his admin. I don't blame Rahm any more than I blame a rattlesnake for biting me - it's in his nature to be a RW tool. I blame the man who put him there in the first place.

[babylonsister]

2. Dumb. Rahm has been more help to this president than you can

possibly know. His experience is worth more than his puny weight in gold.

[Hawkeye-X]

5. If Rahm is such a big help to Obama, and I know he's legendary for butting heads

And he can't keep his Blue Dogs/Conservadems under control, then what the hell is he good for?

[timeforpeace]

8. That reporting people to the White House idea might have been his. How's that going?

[babylonsister]

15. You are so much more transparent that Obama. You are in my sights. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

30. Ooooh!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Autumn]

32. Reporting people

for what? By the way DUCK:rofl:

[babylonsister]

9. He has a different job now, but still tries to get involved.

They are not his to keep under control. He's been involved in a lot of other things. This admin ain't for sissies, seriously. I wonder who could have done better 7 months in?

[rollingrock]

17. His job is to keep the liberals in line

not the blue dogs. he's Obama's attack dog.

[Horse with no Name]

25. It's not the Blue Dogs/ DLC he WANTS to keep under control

it is the progressives.
Serious misunderstanding if you thought he was on our side or even comes close to representing OUR interests.

[saltpoint]

18. Agree. It's maybe a case of underestimating RE's contributions.

[tritsofme]

3. Rahm is on Obama's side.

That is why he chose him.

Rahm is doing a great job, I don't expect to see Obama firing him anytime soon, lol.

[noamnety]

4. You're assuming Rahm and Obama

aren't on the same side.

[saltpoint]

6. No. Obama needs a captain to marshal resources for the 111th Congress.

A strong case could be made that he chose well.

[babylonsister]

11. I just love you and agree with you!

:*

[saltpoint]

12. Hi, babylonsister.

:hi:

Seems like the presidency is a pretty tough job. Gotta have some pretty tough folks on your staff.

Plus, this fight isn't over.

[Ilsa]

7. Maybe Rahn's family will ask him to move back home to Chicago.

I'd hate to see Obama actually fire his friend. He's probably very good at his job, too.

[DefenseLawyer]

10. Rahm comes from that Clintonian win at any cost world

Even if "winning" means when your opponent's position carries the day you simply adopt it and say it was yours all along. I like having him in the role of fixer/whip but he really shouldn't be shaping policy.

[babylonsister]

14. There's the kicker. Who knows if he's shaping policy? I'd be surprised. nt

[DefenseLawyer]

19. Oh I'm not saying he is.

Just that if it were my call, he wouldn't be.

[ananda]

13. .. and Geithner.

Rahm and the whole economic team.

[babylonsister]

16. Oooh, mention Geithner, and DU falls apart. Tell me about Geithner,

and Rahm, in your own opinion.

[sabrina 1]

20. From the minute we learned who was going to be

on his team, Rahm in particular, the writing was on the wall. But Obama knew who Rahm E. was and HE chose him. That was a very bad sign and Geithner also as numerous people pointed out from the start. Now we are seeing the results. Not that THEY are not happy with the results, but for those who worked hard for 'change', how did they ever think they would get that with the same old DC insiders?

They don't work for us, that's clear so what do we do about it? I know one thing, they better not be counting on the 'left' to keep their buddies in Congress in the next election. This was the last chance for them to keep using the same old argument 'we just need a majority and then we'll get things done'. Well, it took a while but when you have a majority and you don't get the things done that you promised, there are no more excuses and people are beginning to face facts.

When Bush wanted something done, he got it done and didn't care what the 'left' thought about it. If Obama wanted done what the majority of people who voted for him wanted done, ending the wars, holding the criminals accountable, an affordable healthcare system, pulling the murderous mercenaries out of Iraq and Afghanistan eg, he could get it done. Clearly he has different goals and they seem to be more in line with Republicans than with the base of his own party.

[babylonsister]

26. "When Bush wanted something done, he got it done and didn't care what the 'left' thought about it"

Jeebus. Why are you here? Is this the example we should emulate?

[sabrina 1]

33. You missed the point obviously

As to why am I here? I've probably been here longer than you as a matter of fact, supporting the Dems fighting off rightwingers, here and on other boards and in real life. Not sure why someone YOU don't agree with on something, has no right to be here.

The Dem party badly needs to worry about people like me especially who for so long supported them and are now beginning to wake up and start asking some serious questions about who the party we were so loyal to is loyal to themselves.

If it was just a few people here, they would have nothing to worry about, but Rahm Emmanuel has always despised what he calls 'the liberal wing of the party' and has earned the reputation he has among the base of the party. He is simply not trustworthy, lying about the role he played in the Dem victory of 2006 eg amongst other things.

He can no longer take the base of the party for granted. The people he better be going after are his friends, the Blue Dogs regardless of his personal feelings towards them.

As for asking me why I am here, my opinion on this is shared by far too many other Democrats to be dismissed at this point. If you haven't done so already, read other blogs to see how much harm the choice of Rahm Emmanuel (and his most recent screw up) is doing to the Obama administration among the very people he will need in 2010 and 2012. People are sick and tired of the abuse these DLCers have leveled at the people who put them in power and it won't be easy to overcome that unless they start acting like they know who hired them for a change.

[Seen the light]

21. Um...why do you think he was picked? nt

[omega minimo]

22. and the fact that he's been so central for so long doesn't give you a clue?

[MercutioATC]

23. Rahm is doing exactly what Rahm was hired to do.

Keep the Repubs off Obama's back? Please... :eyes:

Rahm was hired to do one thing...to try to put a leash on the Dems.

...and I don't think that's a completely unworthy goal.

[snake in the grass]

24. You say that as though Rahm is running the show.

Obama is smart enough to know what he was getting. Next time, vote for Kucinich, as he is the only progressive on our side. Sanders would be great too, but he's intelligent enough to not play the partisan game.

[pinb1212]

27. Rahm is the ultimate Chicago pol.

He's not the post bipartisan pol. that the Prez. ran on.
I'm worried, REALLY worried, we are repeating Clinton's first term.
I do not want to loose our house and senate majority.
Health care in 92 kept president Clinton from doing almost anything in his 8 years.

[blm]

29. Horsepoo - Rahm rolls over for GOP exactly like Clinton did with his ONLY targets being the Dem left

You NEVER see Rahm use his vitriol against the GOP anywhere but in front of a Dem audience, just like Bill Clinton - in their ACTIONS inside the WH circle they are the GOPs best attack dogs against the left.

[invictus]

31. K&R

[dpbrown]

34. Bingo

Rahm and his DLC corporate toadies do not represent the best interests of the people.

[rudy23]

35. Orahma.

[inna]

36. kr

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/9/763818/-Rahm,-we-dont-get-mad,-we-dont-bend-over,-we-get-even.-URGENT-ACTION.

If you haven't followed the Rahm Emanuel story, I suggest you read Jane Hamsher's clear recitation of the facts over at Campaign Silo.
http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/08/07/rahm-goes-apeshit-on-liberals-in-the-veal-pen/
If you're not angry now, you will be when you finish reading what Jane has to say.

Is an all out capitulation to the Blue Dogs and the insurance industry underway, I'm not sure, it remains to be seen. But there's no doubt, they want us to shut up, sit down and go away. This means, we're moving in the correct direction and we need to do even more.

Now, more than ever, we need to redouble our efforts. When I read crap like this, I realize that Rahm is a cold-blooded political operative, more concerned about wins and vote counts than body counts from bad policies. Ridding the American people of insurance industry parasites isn't even on his radar. This could come back and bite the White House big time politically.

much more: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/9/763818/-Rahm,-we-dont-get-mad,-we-dont-bend-over,-we-get-even.-URGENT-ACTION.

[Enrique]

37. you have illusions about Obama

Obama begged Rahm to take the job because he wanted Rahm to do all the things you don't like about him.