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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 12:54 PM
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The corporate media is deliberately sabatoging health care, so why are WE blaming President Obama?

The corporate media is deliberately sabatoging health care, so why are WE blaming President Obama?

by Nashville fan


If I hear another so called "liberal" commentator say something about President Obama not doing a good job of explaining health care and losing the message war, I think I'm going to SCREAM!

People, why on earth are so many of us falling for this crap? President Obama is NOT the problem! The "message" is NOT the problem!

Misinformation and LIES being reported as "news" is the problem!

Let's focus on GETTING OUT THE TRUTH more and BLAMING THE PRESIDENT less!

President Obama is going to be JUST FINE no matter how this all turns out . . . it is an ABSOLUTE WASTE OF TIME to constantly "critique" his "performance" like this is some type of parlor game!

This is real serious stuff and we need to act accordingly and quit getting baited into these meaningless commentaries that do NOTHING to advance the truth.

I find it simultaneously ridiculous and hilarious that the media has steadfastly refused to debunk all the lies being spread about the health insurance reform measures that are before Congress, and then the punditocracy sits around smugly on Sunday Morning shows and questions the President’s "leadership" and "message discipline" on healthcare.

Huh?

The President gives a press conference on healthcare, and the media loudly proclaims how they are "bored" and he looks "tired". Not a word about the actual policies being discussed.

At this same press conference, the President says the police acted "stupidly" when they arrested a man in his own home for "disorderly conduct". The media goes bonkers and treats us to three weeks (and counting) of race baiting and hysteria.

When the President moves in to diffuse the situation and invites both the policeman in question and the professor who was arrested to the White House for beer, we get more analysis of what their beer choices meant than we have about health insurance reform.

However, this same media barely bats an eye when the President is compared to Hitler, when a former Vice Presidential candidate calls health care reform "evil" because a "death panel" will kill her special needs child, and as Congress people continue to flat out LIE about old people being euthanized to save money.

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Read the House bill here. The public option is outlined on page 7.



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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 12:55 PM
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1. I'm not because I know exactly
where the blame goes. President Obama is not my punching bag in lieu of the reality of the corporatemediawhoredom.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:03 PM
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2. Because it's easier to join the band wagon than read. nt
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:03 PM
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3. Republicans and Plutocrats lie. Nothing new about that.
Liberals had hoped Obama would be prepared to counter the lies we had every reason to believe would be forthcoming. Evidently, he wasn't. Some people are disappointed by that.

:dem:

-Laelth
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:16 PM
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7. That goes directly to the point the OP made
I think Obama, Pelosi and others have been out countering the lies, but they can't do it alone. If a liberal commentator has the microphone, why waste it saying something about what Obama should do? Take the opportunity to address the lies.

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:36 PM
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10. Makes sense to me. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:03 PM
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4. I don't remember seeing Obama fight them too much. Sounds like Rahm's on the media's side.
Rahm represents the President. Have you seen President Obama come out and refute Emanuel's stance yet? This president doesn't represent us. He lied to us.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:04 PM
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5. *
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:08 PM
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6. Some people
Seem to think that just because he is the president, he can get anything he wants, but it doesn't work that way. Now I do think it's time to pressure the democrats in congress, and he needs to do that, but in the end it comes up to whether or not there are enough votes. I also think it's time to say the hell with the republicans and the democrats in congress need to just get the "right" health care bill passed without the republicans.
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:19 PM
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8. The corporate media's mantra:
DISTRACT - DIVIDE - DEFEAT - REPEAT

And it never fails them.

Which is exactly why corporations own America's major media outlets.





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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:35 PM
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9. ONE thing the corprat-pwn3d lame$tream media is good at is SABATOGE
You can always count on them for that.

:mad:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:38 PM
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11. Only because it plays off of deeply seated fairytales within the public mind
It's a system that manipulates the adhered-to disinfo the apparatus itself is largely responsible for.
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wininboy Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:45 PM
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12. It's called "leadership" Mr President.
Get your chairman of the DNC, the heads of the committees to re-elect dems to the House and the Senate, and bring them to a meeting with each individual dem who is not supporting reform, and explain all the various forms of support that they won't get from them

Tim Kaine can explain how the DNC will not be running any commercials in their districts to get out the vote for them. Obama can explain how he won't be campaigning in their districts (at least, not for *them*). The DSCC can explain how they won't be getting any of their money but how they might give money to a primary challenger.

I don't anyone is doing the president any favors when they describe him as incapable of having any effect. Besides, that raises a question that's begging to be asked - If he's so ineffectual, why support him?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:23 PM
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14. "If he's so ineffectual, why support him?"
A perfect example of the OP's point.

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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:23 PM
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13. important points - - K & R


thanks for posting
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:31 PM
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15.  Sorry, but I blame the Blue Dogs. Obama's accountability comes with his signature. nt
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:34 PM
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17. Me too, Blue Dogs and the media are to blame. nt
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:32 PM
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16. I refuse to let Obama blame the media for this bill's failings, when Rahm is going around calling us
"fucking stupid" for targeting the DINO Blue Dogs with ads. Unforgivable.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:35 PM
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18. The bill's failings? Thanks for looking out for the media. n/t
Edited on Mon Aug-10-09 02:36 PM by ProSense
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:47 PM
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20. Sorry, potential bill.
Is Rahm Emanuel a member of the media? Cause it sounds like he's the one who doesn't want progressives to get what they want out of this (hypothetical future) bill. President Obama has not rebuked him. Sounds like they both want progressives to back off and let the Blue Dogs get what they want.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:36 PM
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19. "DADDY!!!!! Why don't you DO SOMETHING!!??!!!???"
Edited on Mon Aug-10-09 02:37 PM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: Well there's that, and then there's the scads of DUers who just *want* Obama to fail.
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awnobles Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 03:09 PM
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21. Because
He has not taken the gloves off and pushed it full force the way we hoped.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 04:04 PM
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22. Sorry, but that's a cop out
I'm not going to push health care reform or debunk the lies because Obama isn't doing the way I want him to.

In fact, the OP points out a few things he's done.

Who loses out if reform fails: just Obama?





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