Mind_your_head
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Thu Aug-13-09 12:41 AM
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Single-Payer Health CARE.....the time is NOW |
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Thu Aug-13-09 12:44 AM
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1. I *Hope* It's Not Now or Never |
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because it certainly isn't going to be now. It might be, though, that if the public option is good enough, it will start a migration away from private plans.
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Thu Aug-13-09 12:46 AM
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2. It's got to be now. No compromise. |
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It really IS now or never.....it's going to be NOW.
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Thu Aug-13-09 01:20 AM
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3. What makes you think it's actually going to happen now? |
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What evidence do you see that single-payer has even a snowball's chance in hell of becoming a reality at this moment, in this climate?
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Thu Aug-13-09 01:20 AM
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Thu Aug-13-09 01:32 AM
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5. I don't know, but should any of us |
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want reform without a public option? Because without a public option, what kind of reform will force the private insurers to change? To spend that much money for reform that doesn't alter the massive profits for the healthcare industry and cost of insurance would be a political disaster longterm as I see it. Without the public option, is it worth it? Just asking because I don't know.
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Thu Aug-13-09 02:46 AM
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6. Never would be the more likely by far of the two choices. |
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We need it now but it ain't passing now at all. In fact, it wouldn't pass on a straight up referendum but Congress is a real laugher (till you cry).
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Thu Aug-13-09 02:50 AM
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7. In the moderate, conservative USA of today-- the time might be later if we can moving |
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Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 02:50 AM by andym
In the moderate to conservative USA of today-- the time might be later if we can moving in single-payers' direction with a strong public option (which we'll be lucky to get)....
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kster
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Thu Aug-13-09 05:08 AM
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8. Corporate media has convinced us that the Public Option is the way |
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to go, must go now and watch reality TV, must go now and watch reality TV, must go now and watch reality TV, see ya. Let Republican and Democratic party, Oh and the new, boogieman, the Blue Dog Dem's dictate.
I am sleepy now.
KNR
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Thu Aug-13-09 05:09 AM
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9. Its definitely not going to happen now |
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But passing a public option now may lead to reform in incremental steps. That is the best you are going to get.
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Thu Aug-13-09 07:08 AM
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10. At this point we're lucky if we get ANY reform... |
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..anyone who still thinks single payer is possible in this climate is fooling themselves.
The dems have screwed this up badly yet again. It just blows my mind. We're never going to have this size of a majority again (and may not have this one for much longer if this keeps up) so if we don't do it now it's not going to happen, and I'm afraid it's just not going to happen. Dems let the well be poisoned again and let their cowardice and collusion, and desire for "bipartisanship" get the better of them and sold us out yet again.
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Thu Aug-13-09 07:33 AM
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but now is the time to give it full support because when the sham current reform collapses 10 years down the road folks need to know 1. the reform had nothing to do with single payer/gov. insurance and 2. that single payer is the only system of reform that will solve our massive health care problem.
Pushing for single payer today is absolutely necessary in order to get it for our children and grandchildren down the road. If incremental steps worked we would be expanding medicare today without much resistance. The insurance co's that won't allow real reform today will not allow it in the future either. Real reform will come when the left, as a whole, rallies around what works for every other industrialized country and fights for it.
We totally underestimate our opponent. And we are settling on entering a mandated deal with the same people who are funding the massive campaign against reform including the lobbying groups that are flaming racism, white power and inciting violence. A deal that leaves them stronger, in charge of access to health care with laws in place forcing payment and a government that won't regulate the industry.
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I still dream of it ...:cry: and cry at the thought it may be lost forever
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