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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:04 AM
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Spoiling for a Bush-Cheney Fight
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 11:05 AM by Why Syzygy
Wheee! A duel of the black hats.

http://atlanticwire.theatlantic.com/read-more.php?id=691

The former vice-president plans to slam Bush in his memoir, and pundits are oddly eager.

Dick Cheney, the most powerful American vice-president in history, thinks his considered opinion was ignored under Bush's second term. His upcoming memoir, as reported by Barton Gellman in this morning's Washington Post, purports to detail the inconveniences he believed he suffered. These include:

Bush bowed to hostile public opinion
Bush "moved away" from him on waterboarding, secret CIA prisons, and domestic surveillance
Bush ignored the possibility of "regime change" in North Korea and Iran
Bush fired Rumsfeld and left Scooter Libby out to dry

Are these legitimate complaints for a vice-president, a position whose power and prestige were famously compared to a "bucket of warm piss?" Commentators tend to treat Cheney as his own category. Since he came out to do battle with Obama earlier this year, left-leaning pundits no longer need to hammer home the ex-VP's unsavoriness, instead adopting the tone of eager spectators.

Here's how pundits are receiving news of the Cheney tell-all: (...)
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:12 AM
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1. This actually helps Bush
makes him seem more like a human being.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:28 AM
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4. Gawker agrees.
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 11:29 AM by Why Syzygy
I think it is way too little way too late to make him look "human".


Bush Is Starting to Look Good, says The Cajun Boy at Gawker. "Cheney's post-presidency attacks on him are enough to make even the most dedicated Bush-hater feel sorry for him, even if only just a bit."
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:25 AM
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2. Awwww The Diabolical Duo is Divorcing...:o(
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:25 AM
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3. Interesting phrasing for this line -
"Bush ignored the possibility of "regime change" in North Korea and Iran"

Translated it means?

Bush ignored the possibility of the U.S. and Israel changing the regime in Iran through an all out attack with the finest weapons our money can make and our killers can muster.

I don't know about North Korea - constant threatening of North Korea hides the details of the supplies SOLD to them by Cheney? and others?

Let him write.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:30 AM
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5. Bush didn't exactly "ignore" Iran...
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 11:32 AM by Why Syzygy
he was shouted down when he tried to push that particular Cheney agenda item.

Over all it may give the impression that it was Cheney's plan to demolish Iraq and puppet boy just played the public face.

Do the neocons think that just because they are calling over throwing governments, "regime change", that sanitizes it and makes it smooth with the American public? :crazy:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:41 PM
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6. You're right. "he was shouted down when he tried to push that particular Cheney agenda item." I
think it was the generals? Without Rumsfeld to 'guide' them. Cheney was 1/2 of a team. Rumsfeld was the other half.
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