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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:16 PM
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Bush, Gog and Magog
Here's a story we should all be ashamed of missing: George W Bush attempted to sell the invasion of Iraq to Jacques Chirac using biblical prophecy.

In the winter of 2003, when George Bush and Tony Blair were frantically gathering support for their planned invasion, Professor Thomas Römer, an Old Testament expert at the university of Lausanne, was rung up by the Protestant Federation of France. They asked him to supply them with a summary of the legends surrounding Gog and Magog and as the conversation progressed, he realised that this had originally come, from the highest reaches of the French government.

President Jacques Chirac wanted to know what the hell President Bush had been on about in their last conversation. Bush had then said that when he looked at the Middle East, he saw "Gog and Magog at work" and the biblical prophecies unfolding. But who the hell were Gog and Magog? Neither Chirac nor his office had any idea. But they knew Bush was an evangelical Christian, so they asked the French Federation of Protestants, who in turn asked Professor Römer.

More here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/aug/10/religion-george-bush
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:17 PM
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1. I didn't miss it.
:shrug:
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:22 PM
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4. Huh?
I don't understand this comment.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:24 PM
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5. The guy starts off by saying we should "all" be ashamed of missing it...
not sure why he thinks everyone else missed it... but that's journalism for ya.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:28 PM
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6. The story was/is underreported, to be sure,
but it has been reported before. Thank you for the refresher, though.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:02 PM
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11. It's been posted here at least one day a week for
nearly two weeks :D
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:20 PM
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2. Quite so Lucky... this is a very important story.
These wackos are still embedded in our government at various levels, especially in the military. And this weird evangelical business certainly has helped define the course of America for the last 8 or more years. We need to understand it.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:21 PM
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3. Actually many didn't miss it at all. It's just so freaking scary that...
...despite being reported for at least a year in blogs, posts on DU and elsewhere, the MSM (AFAIK) hasn't picked it up. Literally, when an American president makes statements that incredibly un-fucking-balanced it usually takes a decade or two before it hits the mainstream airwaves, if ever.

K&R though- it's so astoundingly disturbing it bears repetition.

PB
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:50 PM
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7. It's like Reagan's statement that he would like to see Armageddon in his lifetime.
Very few reported on that one either.

Poor mad fool didn't even get that it would mean he would miss being Raptured.
IOW Left Behind! :scared:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:59 PM
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8. Exactly. One of the side-effects of these sorts of things not being reported...
...is that the general American citizenry, unless they dig for news and are reasonably-well-read, are mostly in the dark about some of the personalities and mental states of individuals who hold positions of such high office that those "quirks" could mean the difference between a negotiated settlement with an adversary- or World War III.

PB
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:00 PM
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9. Pagans for Reagan!
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:01 PM
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10. Why does Gog always get top billing?
Poor Magog...
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:03 PM
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12. I know it well, I didn't miss it..apparently the media has though..
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